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Are the Skins looking to trade up?

[url=http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/Shanahan-Open-to-Trading-Down-In-Draft/5f091c70-101e-4063-a498-bd5afe4c9a6c]Shanahan Open to Trading Down In Draft[/url]

[QUOTE]“If [a team] comes up and all of a sudden at that 10th pick there’s someone that team wants and we can move back and pick up additional picks, then that could be a reality – especially if we’re able to get real value” Shanahan said during a pre-draft media session on Wednesday.

“For some, it could be a wide receiver or an outside linebacker. A team could feel very good about their football team, they’ve got multiple draft picks and they move up and take him. And if that happens, they say, ‘We need that one guy and that will be the difference in our football team,’ then they can make that decision very quickly.

“A lot of times, it ends up being best for both teams.”

[B]What may not be best for the Redskins is trading up in the draft, Shanahan said.[/B]
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[quote=SmootSmack;796210]I think if they stay at 2 they're taking Patrick Peterson[/quote]I don't think they're bluffing on Miller. I think they waited until they could verify that Newton would go no. 1, and then showed their hand in an attempt to be able to get value in terms of a trade on the pick.

I think they'll opt not to trade (at the last moment), and take Miller.

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I wouldn't discount Miller either. Broncos have plenty of good choices at 2

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My best guess as of right now for the Redskins is: no trade from no. 10, taking Robert Quinn. But I don't really know anything anyway, so this is just a fun read.

[url=http://liveballsports.com/2011/04/28/liveball-sports-2011-nfl-mock-draft-final-version-2-0/]LiveBall Sports’ 2011 NFL Mock Draft (Final Version 2.0) « LiveBall Sports[/url]

I'll be updating through the night.

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copycat ;)

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I've got a feeling that Gabbert might be our guy. I think we get him in a trade up. Just a gut feeling, which I'm always wrong on when it comes to the Skins!

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Gabbert's got bust written all over him

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[quote=rbanerjee23;796279]Gabbert's got bust written all over him[/quote]

Based on what?

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[quote=SmootSmack;796284]Based on what?[/quote]

I dont think he has bust as in Cam Newton potential, but there is always potential. I think he is much safer than Cam, but coaches are gonna change his mechanics and that gimmick offense inflates his numbers in the big 12 which loves to throw the ball around. I know he is a smart kid which is a big plus and his size is ideal, I think he is a first round talent, 10 is high though.

Whomever we get ill be behind, I just want the right pick at good value like everyone, but there are more solid players at differenct positions than QB this draft.

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Shanny also said that trading up is not likely yesterday. I don't know if it's smoke screens or true intentions.

Another interesting point he made was that he only feels comfortable at safety and tight end. Otherwise all positions, in his opinion, are needs which can be assessed in the draft. I would have to agree with that assessment.

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The thing with his offense is that it still required quick passes and decisions. I think that is a plus, because he has to make reads and smart choices, a key skill needed in the NFL.

Didn't Big Ben also run a similar offense in college?

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[quote=rbanerjee23;796279]Gabbert's got bust written all over him[/quote]


You could potentially say that about every player selected in the draft.

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[quote=freddyg12;796278]I've got a feeling that Gabbert might be our guy. I think we get him in a trade up. Just a gut feeling, which I'm always wrong on when it comes to the Skins![/quote]

There are mock drafts [updated 4/28] that have Gabbert going to the Redskins at #10 without any maneuvering. It's a good thing we don't resort to them as a fact finding mission though they do exemplify the vast disparity of opinions.

All the speculation will end shortly.
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Also, will these rookies be falling under the old rookie pay scale? I'm curious to know this.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;796206][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/denver-spreads-the-word-they-like-von-miller/]Denver spreads the word they like Von Miller | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

They don't need to spread the word they have the 2nd pick.

Denver must REALLY want to trade out of that pick.
And with each leak they decrease its trade value.

[quote=Dirtbag59;796212]That's not much better. You've had the best Corner in the game since 2004 or at least he was the best for most of the years since then. How does adding another corner change your defense? If I'm John Elway and I go defense with the 2nd pick I'm going either Dareus or Fairley.[/quote]Have 2 CBs that can press and run helps the defensive coordinator be more aggressive and create pressure through scheme and it allows the non-blitz pressure a better chance to get home.

[quote=SmootSmack;796213]I think they should go Darreus as well, just not sure they will[/quote]
Heck, I think the Panthers should go Dareus.
I think he's the best player in the draft.

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[quote=NC_Skins;796297]Also, will these rookies be falling under the old rookie pay scale? I'm curious to know this.[/quote]

This report outlined one of the latest proposals that is yet to be completely finalized.

[url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fprofootballtalk.nbcsports.com%2F2011%2F03%2F09%2Freport-agreement-reached-on-rookie-wage-scale%2F&ei=pYS5Tc2DBsG3tgfHiqHeBA&usg=AFQjCNG35vqK7t3emxWOPYFRI_WnSm5TSg&sig2=lQEpRsCqVUFVDp7f0YLbcw]Report: Agreement reached on rookie wage scale | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Longtimefan;796302]This report outlined one of the latest proposals that is yet to be completely finalized.

[url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fprofootballtalk.nbcsports.com%2F2011%2F03%2F09%2Freport-agreement-reached-on-rookie-wage-scale%2F&ei=pYS5Tc2DBsG3tgfHiqHeBA&usg=AFQjCNG35vqK7t3emxWOPYFRI_WnSm5TSg&sig2=lQEpRsCqVUFVDp7f0YLbcw]Report: Agreement reached on rookie wage scale | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]


This article is in reference to what is going in the new CBA. That said, since the court has lifted the lockout, and most likely the teams will act under the same rules as last year. (FA = 6 years, Uncapped year, etc) Do teams wait to sign the rookies when a new CBA comes about or will they sign them under the old guidelines. Which basically means you give Cam Newton a guaranteed 55-60 million...lol

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[quote=SmootSmack;796284]Based on what?[/quote]

Gut feeling

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[quote=NC_Skins;796303]This article is in reference to what is going in the new CBA. That said, since the court has lifted the lockout, and most likely the teams will act under the same rules as last year. (FA = 6 years, Uncapped year, etc) Do teams wait to sign the rookies when a new CBA comes about or will they sign them under the old guidelines. Which basically means you give Cam Newton a guaranteed 55-60 million...lol[/quote]
Last years rules violate every antitrust law on the books. they will be forced to open under no rules if the courts dont stay the ruling.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;796314][B]Last years rules violate every antitrust law on the books.[/B] they will be forced to open under no rules if the courts dont stay the ruling.[/quote]

I think that is one reason why Judge Nelson reamed the owners. The owners operate against antitrust rules only because the players allow them to.