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The Shanahans made the right call on QB. Let's roll with Rexy and see how far he can take us. I do think at some point, we will see Beck, but I'm hoping it's because we're steamrolling the competition! ;-)

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[quote=skinsfan69;831272]I think Shanahan made the right move. Remember this move was based off of practice as well as game film, which we don't see. Let's see how Rex does.[/quote]

I see your point. And I have no problem with the move. I just don't like the idea of Grossman possibly having to look over his shoulder. If Grossman is the man then we need to see it through. This is a player with 8 years of experience. Its not like we are looking at him for the first time here. If he has what it takes to start, then why all the QB drama last season...

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Rex probably gives us the best shot at winning right now. We have a much more solid supporting cast around him this year so as long as he plays within the offense, we could be alright with him.

I'm not expecting him to be a Pro Bowler but he doesn't have to be. As long as good Rex shows up a lot more often than bad Rex I think we can challenge for a wild card.

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Is this the part where I run around like a chicken with my head cut off and hold up a banner "SUCK 4 LUCK!!"??

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[quote=NC_Skins;831287]Is this the part where I run around like a chicken with my head cut off and hold up a banner "SUCK 4 LUCK!!"??[/quote]

Save that for after our first 'L'

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Quoting from John Keim's article: [url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/nfl/2011/09/redskins-notes-shanahans-decision-injury-updates#ixzz1XBQCRLzc]Redskins notes: Shanahan's decision, injury updates | John Keim | NFL | Washington Examiner[/url]

[Quote]It’s also clear that Shanahan was fair in this competition. I’d heard all along from several league sources that he liked John Beck better entering camp. Naturally, you think he’ll then go that way. But Rex Grossman played better. Beck made some poor decisions and looked uncomfortable vs. Tampa Bay. And Grossman deserved to win. Shanahan picked the right guy. That will play well in the locker room; not that players were hoping he’d pick Grossman, but knowing that it was indeed open goes a long way.[/Quote]

Perhaps, Shanahan is an evil genius (stay with me on this):
(1) He knows that he has a bad situation at QB and the only way around it is to make the rest of the team pull together;
(2) He knows Beck is not the answer but also knows he is enough of an unknown that he can generate some buzz - unlike Rex who will always been seen as mediocre;
(3) Wanting to pull the team together - he creates a "competition" by putting up the facade of prefering Beck with the knowledge that it is going to be Grossman;
(4) In the end, neither really stand out but, rather than being disappointed that they are being led by a mediocre QB, the team pulls together b/c they believe Shanahan is "fair" when, in fact, he has just been manipulating them!

Muhahahahahahaaa

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Haha like Herb Brooks from the Us Olympic hockey team? I could see that but I dont think he has done that. I think he tried to make the best of a not so good situation.

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I think this is part of Shanahan setting the competitive tone for this team. Beck may have been who they wanted to start, but the competition didn't play out that way. If it has truly been one sided in practice and they gifted the starting job to a guy that didn't deserve it, that wouldn't have gone over well in the locker room. The Skins have had enough entitlement and have just started the process of clearing it out. It would have only been detrimental to their philosophy to start any player who didn't beat out the competition

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I'm not happy about this...
But did they really have a choice with the options we left ourselves with?

We have a few new weapons to utilize so that's a + (Hightower,Helu,Hank)
Who knows... let's just win games. Bubble screen it to Santana, quick middles to Cooley, run a lot and let's go boys

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;831033]We'll see how long Rex lasts before he's pulled in favor of Beck.[/quote]

Beck will take over coming out for the second half against the Giants. :D

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[quote=skinsguy;831277]The Shanahans made the right call on QB. Let's roll with Rexy and see how far he can take us. I do think at some point, we will see Beck, but I'm hoping it's because we're steamrolling the competition! ;-)[/quote]

Yea they did nonetheless.

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The best thing about having Rex as a QB?...I can keep my fantasy football team name of "The Unleashed Dragons"

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;831326]I think this is part of Shanahan setting the competitive tone for this team. Beck may have been who they wanted to start, but the competition didn't play out that way. If it has truly been one sided in practice and they gifted the starting job to a guy that didn't deserve it, that wouldn't have gone over well in the locker room. The Skins have had enough entitlement and have just started the process of clearing it out. It would have only been detrimental to their philosophy to start any player who didn't beat out the competition[/quote]


I feel this way 100%.

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[quote=Monkeydad;831336]Beck will take over coming out for the second half against the Giants. :D[/quote]

Thats the crap I don't want to see. Nothing would deflate the momentum the Skins [U]may[/U] have more than seeing their starting QB pulled. Gotta stick with Grossman all the way thru. Cant have another season of QB drama.

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[quote=44ever;831450]Thats the crap I don't want to see. Nothing would deflate the momentum the Skins [U]may[/U] have more than seeing their starting QB pulled. Gotta stick with Grossman all the way thru. Cant have another season of QB drama.[/quote]

Agreed. We have been sorely lacking consistency at the QB position. If Rex is the starting QB then I hope that he stays as the starter.

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[quote=Longtimefan;831044]Beck worked so hard and wanted to be the starting QB so badly. Let's just hope his psyche is not a fragile one and he can remain confident and focused.[/quote]

He may have worked hard, and wanted it badly, but invariably JB always throws off of his Beck foot!

:)

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[quote=Big C;831123]must say im surprised. grossman is the "safer" choice, but beck has a higher ceiling/potential in this offense. that said, i will defer to the coaches' wisdom on this subject.[/quote]

How does Beck have a higher ceiling?? Beck has had his shots, so has Rex. Rex went to a super bowl. Just because Beck is good at the bootleg means he has a higher ceiling? Looks like to me if you take away the bootleg he doesn't have much on Rex. Rex understands the system better and makes the "F&@% it, I'm going deep" throws.

PS: I am not johnny5dickey. Just observation from the preseason.

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[quote=Skinsfan6776;831150]If Grossman can perform like he did in pre season I am all for him. But I remember his time at Chicago and his horrible ratings then.[/quote]He seems much improved, but yeah...

I have a pretty tight and mixed group of friends with whom I watch football every season. There's Cowboys fans, Bears fans, Broncos fans, etc., and it's pretty cool because of all the ish talking that goes on. I clearly remember that last season he was with the Bears and always screwing with my bud, saying "Damn, did Rex just get picked [I]again[/I]?"

He was turnover prone, plain and simple.

Still, he looks like he has worked on that, and he looked better than Beck overall, so I am fine with this so long as we win. That's all I want for the 'Skins: to win.

And for the first time in a long time the team doesn't seem schizophrenic, so maybe we will do just that...

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[quote=Skinsfan6776;831150]If Grossman can perform like he did in pre season I am all for him. [B]But I remember his time at Chicago and his horrible ratings then.[/B] I mean to this date he has a 40/40 rating. If he does good this year then fine.. but hes not someone to build a team around for the future. Jason Campbell wasnt either. I liked ferrotte and brennan.[/quote]

But he is in his 3rd year in a system that much better suits his skill set. Comparing apples and bird doodoo....

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I was a little shocked when I heard the news .. I was out in the middle of Wisconsin enjoying Pearl Jam 20, the 20th anniv. of the greatest band of my era. Hell of a show, getting back to the point .... After letting the Sex Cannon news sink in, I'm actually okay with it .... I wont' lie, when he's in the game I don't feel too bad at all, and honestly I don't feel bad having Beck being our backup. I know we all drink kool aid every year but something tells me we are on to something special.

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[quote=DCtoAZ;831621]I was a little shocked when I heard the news .. I was out in the middle of Wisconsin enjoying Pearl Jam 20, the 20th anniv. of the greatest band of my era. Hell of a show, getting back to the point...[/quote]

Nice, can't wait for the movie to come out

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Very encouraging to hear the other guys like Rex. At the very least he seems to have the confidence of coaches and players alike.

I hope he starts "solid" and builds steadily through the season.

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I just watched Rex's interview on the Redskins site.

I found it very impressive and I recommend people take a look at where our starting QB's head is at.

This player has matured and he's obviously quite intelligent.

I really am hopeful that this guy can take it to a very different level than what most people are expecting.

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Go Rex!

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F.i.g.d!

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[quote=backrow;831492]He may have worked hard, and wanted it badly, but invariably JB always throws off of his Beck foot!

:)[/quote]

Would u say he put his Beck, foot forward?

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[quote=wilsowilso;832098]I just watched Rex's interview on the Redskins site.

I found it very impressive and I recommend people take a look at where our starting QB's head is at.

This player has matured and he's obviously quite intelligent.

I really am hopeful that this guy can take it to a very different level than what most people are expecting.[/quote]

Just read it myself, I really liked what he had to say. He seems ready for the challenge.

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Beck's reaction

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110907_john_becks_natural_reaction_hes_pissed_of_course]John Beck's natural reaction? He's pissed, of course - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=backrow;831492]He may have worked hard, and wanted it badly, but invariably JB always throws off of his Beck foot!

:)[/quote]

I Beck to Dilfer. I just don't see it that way. :)

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I dont think they are going to be asking Rex to win the games with his arm. He will have to do it eventually during the season, but I think we are going to run the SH*T out of the ball, 30 times a game, if possible which will open up a lot of deep routes. Which i think is the reason they kept Ryan Tarain vs Royster. HE is a proven guy that can handle the game and has produced. Another one I think is keeping Stallworth. Another guy that can stretch the field and with him, Moss and Gaffney you can't ignore them and can't leave them one on one.

I personally think it was the right move. Rex is a vet, I think the stuff from the past is in the past. The last 3 games last year, plus the preseason games he looks like a different QB.

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[quote=53Fan;832143]I Beck to Dilfer. I just don't see it that way. :)[/quote]

You should be hit with a Mallet and stuffed in a Locker for that pun.

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[quote=Lotus;832132]Beck's reaction

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110907_john_becks_natural_reaction_hes_pissed_of_course]John Beck's natural reaction? He's pissed, of course - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url][/quote]

At least this time he didn't come out and say what he really feels. If he felt this way about McNabb [url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fprofootballtalk.nbcsports.com%2F2011%2F05%2F17%2Fjohn-beck-thinks-hes-a-starter-glad-mcnabb-is-on-the-way-out%2F&ei=MddoTtCJF4PUgQe__7y_DA&usg=AFQjCNGw4Y5jsYQaHg-dbVNmzAkvfQn4fw&sig2=nTDMKiPNMcWe_bx64laf8w...I]John Beck thinks he’s a starter, glad McNabb is on the way out | ProFootballTalk[/url] can't imagine his mindset having changed because his competitions name is Grossman.

Comparing Quarterbacks...The WashPost displayed this graphic [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/2011/quarterback-instability/index.html]Quarterback instability for the Washington Redskins - 2011-2012 Washington Redskins/NFL Preview - The Washington Post[/url] on the instability of Redskin QB's over the past twenty five years. As horrible as we thought JC to be, his ranking is interesting in comparison.

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What Matt Bowen thinks the gameplan for Rex should be. I tend to agree:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/My-game-plan-for-Rex.html]My game plan for Rex | National Football Post[/url]

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[quote=hooskins;832297]What Matt Bowen thinks the gameplan for Rex should be. I tend to agree:

[URL="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/My-game-plan-for-Rex.html"]My game plan for Rex | National Football Post[/URL][/quote]

Totally agree. Especially on the point about spreading them out with 3-4 wides.

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[quote=hooskins;832297]What Matt Bowen thinks the gameplan for Rex should be. I tend to agree:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/My-game-plan-for-Rex.html]My game plan for Rex | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

I don't like this plan. I think throwing deep early in the game is unnecessary. I think the Skins can move the ball on the ground and will....early and often. The G-men are going to be beat by the play-action and by handling the Gnats at the line, straight up. Gross is not going to have to win this game, he has but only to not lose it.

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He'll attack the middle of the field like he has done so well thus far. And they should be confident with Hightower and Helu to run for close if not over 200 yards.

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[quote=hooskins;832297]What Matt Bowen thinks the gameplan for Rex should be. I tend to agree:

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/My-game-plan-for-Rex.html]My game plan for Rex | National Football Post[/url][/quote]

I agree with this too. Deep outs and fades aren't the strengths of Grossman (or Beck).

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[quote=polywog;832306]I don't like this plan. I think throwing deep early in the game is unnecessary. I think the Skins can move the ball on the ground and will....early and often. The G-men are going to be beat by the play-action and by handling the Gnats at the line, straight up. Gross is not going to have to win this game, he has but only to not lose it.[/quote]

I'll never understand why some folks consider throwing deep and pounding the rock to be mutually exclusive opposites. Taking occasional deep shots helps the running game; running the ball helps to open up deep routes. A nine route and an off-tackle run are buddies and partners, not opposites.

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[quote=Lotus;832327]I'll never understand why some folks consider throwing deep and pounding the rock to be mutually exclusive opposites. Taking occasional deep shots helps the running game; running the ball helps to open up deep routes. A nine route and an off-tackle run are buddies and partners, not opposites.[/quote]

I was speaking exclusively about the suggestion that we go deep three times in a row to start the game....you only do that if your safeties are cheating up. They tend not to do that right away. "Eff it I'm going deep" is a funny email, it is also not how you do things in the NFL. You take what's there.

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[quote=polywog;832335]I was speaking exclusively about the suggestion that we go deep three times in a row to start the game....you only do that if your safeties are cheating up. They tend not to do that right away. "Eff it I'm going deep" is a funny email, it is also not how you do things in the NFL. You take what's there.[/quote]

He suggested taking a "deep shot in the first three plays of the game".

Not 3 in a row.