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[quote=Skinzman;1095119]I dont recall saying RG3 doesnt deserve part of the blame. He flat out cost us the bucs game, thats not on anyone else. However, the Minny game is not all on RG3, not even close. He gets the blame rightly for that 4th down throw on the last drive, but no one will even mention the fact that we had a first down already if another stupid penalty hadnt been committed to negate a first down the play prior. No one wants to talk about our false starts on the very first play of a drive that happened several times against the bucs. Those are killers, especially with a young QB. [B]But anytime I say other positions need to improve, here you come with the its the OL's fault meant as sarcasm[/B] and other people telling me im nuts that the ONLY problem on this team is RG3.

The fact is if we want to develop a young QB, we need massive improvements elsewhere. Now, If we can get Green Bay to trade us Aaron Rodgers... What are the odds of that happening?

Also, I frankly dont care if we have invested in it. I care if its good. Heres to hoping that Moses and Long develop correctly.[/quote]

LOL. Anytime. I said that once and it wasn't to you.

And I never said you only blamed RG3

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What RG3 is showing now is the same thing that were on his scouting reports coming out of college,but we all overlooked it.
Some examples from 4 different scouting reports:

1.Decision Making and Intangibles


[B][I]Can play very hurried and frenetic at times, and his pocket presence is average at best. Doesn’t feel blindside pressure well, and takes a lot of hits and sacks and is prone to giving up fumbles because of backside pressure. Can be indecisive in deciding whether to scramble or find someone downfiel[/I][/B]d.

However, he’s a very tough player who will make an attempt to keep his eye level downfield and stare down the gun-barrel even after getting hit a lot early in the game (see Oklahoma). Still inconsistent as an anticipation thrower, but he displays the willingness and ability to make stick throws over the middle of the field. Willingness and ability to attack deep forces defenses to cover 100 x 53.

2. “‘Everybody is just assuming because of the Heisman and the socks and all that bs. . . . they are ignoring a lot of bad tape that he’s had,’” one scout told McGinn. [B][I] “‘I don’t think he has vision or pocket feel, which to me are the two most important components of quarterbacking. He’s just running around winging it[/I][/B]. He’s [Michael] Vick, but not as good a thrower.’

“He has better arm action and is more accurate with his deep ball, but he’s not as good as Cam Newton,” another scout said. “As much as is written about his athleticism, his athleticism under duress in the pocket isn’t even close to Cam Newton’s. This guy, the only way he gets big plays with his feet is if he’s got a wide-open field and the sea opens for him. He’s got a little bit of a selfish streak, too. Everybody was laying on Cam, but for some reason this guy has become gloves off. He doesn’t treat anybody good.

3. Overall: Griffin does need work to become more consistent in his pocket presence. At the college level he has the speed to quickly jump outside the pocket and pick up yards, or outrun the defenders to gain a passing window. That will not be the case in the NFL.

If RG3 is to make a successful transition to the next level, learning to be a pocket passer first and runner second will be his biggest hurdle.

4. Weaknesses:
• Adequate height and bulk but not the prototype
• Must transition from spread to pro style system
• Is not accustomed to working from under center
• Raw in terms of reading and recognizing defenses
• [B][I]Must learn to scan field / go through progressions[/I][/B]
• Delivery and release point are too inconsistent
• [B][I]Average pocket presence and is too eager to run[/I][/B]
• Too many fumbles and must improve ball security
• [B][I]Might have long-term health / durability concerns[/I][/B]

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[quote=mredskins;1095144]Sam Bradford anyone? Anyone?[/quote]

[quote=skinsfan69;1095130]What about Sam Bradford? If he could ever stay healthy, he could run this offense and run it pretty well. If I were the Redskins, I'd make a call to the Rams and have a conversation. I'm sure they'd listen.[/quote]

If the RGIII trade came with a warranty, the Rams DO owe us a QB.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1095145]LOL. Anytime. I said that once and it wasn't to you.

And I never said you only blamed RG3[/quote]

Maybe I could have worded that better. Didnt mean anytime to mean specifically you say that AND someone says the other. I meant it as an either/or type of thing.

As for who you said it to. Well yeah, you didnt quote me the time you quoted that guy that simply said "I agree" to your post. Then went on to give a response that, had you quoted mine from just a few prior, would just happen to be a pretty clear response to it. Maybe it was a fluke, but if it was, look at it from where I am sitting.

To the thread itself. As for this whole conundrum. Take the 5th year extension on him. Work to improve the rest of the team around him. We arent developing anyone soon. Even if we end up drafting Winston/Mariotta, let them sit a year so we dont kill them. If we are moving on, this may sound cold, but you are better off letting RG3 get killed next year while a rookie learns. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

What it seems people dont know is that the 5th year tag is not guaranteed until the specific league year its associated with starts, which is in March (with one exception). We can still do the 5th year and cut him before March of 16' and owe him nothing if he doesnt get it. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

The only exception. If the fear if long term injury is to great. If he would get injured in 2015 AND would be out all/large chunk of 2016 (not 100% on the exact amount), then he would get an injury guarantee for that 5th year which we would be on the hook for.

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[quote=mredskins;1095144]Sam Bradford anyone? Anyone?[/quote]

The only guy more injury prone than RG3?

Yeah I'd pass.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1095171]The only guy more injury prone than RG3?



Yeah I'd pass.[/QUOTE]


When he is healthy he is as good as anybody, but yeah he is probably damaged goods. Real shame.
Edit: if he does get 100% healthy why on earth would he want to come here anyway.


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[quote=Skinzman;1095151]Maybe I could have worded that better. Didnt mean anytime to mean specifically you say that AND someone says the other. I meant it as an either/or type of thing.

As for who you said it to. Well yeah, you didnt quote me the time you quoted that guy that simply said "I agree" to your post. Then went on to give a response that, had you quoted mine from just a few prior, would just happen to be a pretty clear response to it. Maybe it was a fluke, but if it was, look at it from where I am sitting.

To the thread itself. As for this whole conundrum. Take the 5th year extension on him. Work to improve the rest of the team around him. We arent developing anyone soon. Even if we end up drafting Winston/Mariotta, let them sit a year so we dont kill them. If we are moving on, this may sound cold, but you are better off letting RG3 get killed next year while a rookie learns. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

What it seems people dont know is that the 5th year tag is not guaranteed until the specific league year its associated with starts, which is in March (with one exception). We can still do the 5th year and cut him before March of 16' and owe him nothing if he doesnt get it. If he gets it, thats actually not a bad thing.

The only exception. If the fear if long term injury is to great. If he would get injured in 2015 AND would be out all/large chunk of 2016 (not 100% on the exact amount), then he would get an injury guarantee for that 5th year which we would be on the hook for.[/quote]

There's absolutely no way we should extend him and take any sort of chance. Let him play out the year and see what happens.

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[quote=Mattyk;1095171]The only guy more injury prone than RG3?

Yeah I'd pass.[/quote]

I thought he was a FA after this year, but he is signed through 2015. I would take a look only if FA, but mos def not a trade. pass

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[quote=Mattyk;1095171]The only guy more injury prone than RG3?

Yeah I'd pass.[/quote]

I am not saying dump rgiii just bring him in and have a camp battle. Not sure in 2015 you got many more QB choices.

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[quote=Chico23231;1095175]I thought he was a FA after this year, but he is signed through 2015. I would take a look only if FA, but mos def not a trade. pass[/quote]

Rams most likely will cut him. His salary is too big in 2015 to justify keeping him.

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[quote=mredskins;1095177]Rams most likely will cut him. His salary is too big in 2015 to justify keeping him.[/quote]

if he's a cut, I would hope we would do our due diligence and speak with him. He would be the guy Id prefer to bring in and push RG3.

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I support the idea of having another real QB (not just a career backup) push RGIII and even take the job if necessary.

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I've said this before, with the money that has been invested at the skills position I think we can have vast improvements at the QB position with even a middle of the road starting QB.

Commenters note: That does not mean I think we have a fantastic o-line

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[quote=Lotus;1095181]I support the idea of having another real QB (not just a career backup) push RGIII and even take the job if necessary.[/quote]

agree, career backups make no sense to bring in. I would want someone who has shown potential and who Gruden believes in that could be the future.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1095174]There's absolutely no way we should extend him and take any sort of chance. Let him play out the year and see what happens.[/QUOTE]


So if he plays out the year similar to the last two weeks than come May we have to make an 18 mill dollar decision. If we do not extend him than what? Does he have the option to stay for his fourth year or go elsewhere for a better offer?


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[QUOTE=punch it in;1095189]So if he plays out the year similar to the last two weeks than come May we have to make an 18 mill dollar decision. If we do not extend him than what? Does he have the option to stay for his fourth year or go elsewhere for a better offer?


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He's still under contract next year.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk;1095190]He's still under contract next year.[/QUOTE]


Yes, but we have to make a decision on 2016 before the 2015 season. So...if we decide not to extend him than what? He will just be dead man walking? In other words, what is the worst case scenario for us if we dont extend him? He comes back for 2015 and wins the job (with no extension) plays lights out and than he can go elsewhere if he wants?


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[quote=punch it in;1095191]Yes, but we have to make a decision on 2016 before the 2015 season. So...if we decide not to extend him than what? He will just be dead man walking? In other words, what is the worst case scenario for us if we dont extend him? He comes back for 2015 and wins the job (with no extension) plays lights out and than he can go elsewhere if he wants?


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If no extension, the only way to retain him will be to franchise. If he plays lights out, we franchise and negotiate a deal.

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I would let RG3 play but bring another QB for some serious competition at the starting position. I'm not sure if there are currently any "on the cusp" type of Qbs who are currently second string but could easily be a starter.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1095192]If no extension, the only way to retain him will be to franchise. If he plays lights out, we franchise and negotiate a deal.[/QUOTE]


Thanks JR.


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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1095195]I would let RG3 play but bring another QB for some serious competition at the starting position. I'm not sure if there are currently any "on the cusp" type of Qbs who are currently second string but could easily be a starter.[/QUOTE]


Captain Kirk and Colt 45!
Edit: was joking. But if u took out the word easily....than...


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[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/gruden--rg3--coddled-for-so-long-205304232.html[/url]


Jay dropping more bombs on Robert's ego.


[quote]"His biggest thing, he's been coddled for so long," Gruden said. "It's not a negative, he's just been so good, he just hasn't had a lot of negative publicity. Everybody's loved him. Some adversity is striking hard at him now, and how he reacts to that off the field, his mental state of mind, how it affects his confidence, hopefully it's not in a negative way."[/quote]


[quote]"He's auditioned long enough. Clock's ticking. He's gotta play," Gruden said. "We want Robert to excel, we really do. But the last two games, it hasn't been very good, anywhere. We gotta play better around him. And the biggest thing for us as play-callers, and for him, we just have to come together and jell with plays he's comfortable with. That takes time. But we don't have a lot of time."[/quote]

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Robert's ego clearly has prevented him from becoming the player he should become. I can see it though. You won a Heisman, had a team spend insane amount of picks to draft you, and you hit historic records in your rookie season. It's enough to make your head blow up, but he's soon finding out that nobody gives a fuck about 2012 anymore.

He was propped up in a gimmick offense (which I stated back then) and excelled in. The Shanny's knew that offense wasn't going to last when defenses caught up, and the hits started coming on Robert. The funny thing about it is, that Robert didn't want to run this type of offense long term. He wanted to known as a pocket passer and play maker. Unfortunately for him, he had 0 experience in a pro-style offense which has set him back a good 3-4 years.

The thing I suggested back then was to sit Robert down for a year or two, and let him learn the ropes. Nope. That idea had people rolling their eyes and pointed to the "success" at the latest fads at QB. (newton) Well, look at where we are now. We are at a crossroads, where most likely, Robert will be playing his last year with the Redskins in 2015 all because he was rushed into action long before he was ready. Impatient fans. Impatient owner. They deserve each other really.

He's already assisted with one coach losing his job, and I don't think he survives with Gruden at the helm. Besides, I think his hype (commercials/marketing/logo/etc) have all rubbed some in the locker room the wrong way in terms of him leading that team. Bottom line, if you are going to have that kind of hype, you better be able to back it up. It annoys me to no ends seeing all this marketing on a guy who hasn't done jack shit beyond a flash in the pan rookie year. This foot up the ass is exactly what this kid needs to truly humble him if he's ever going to succeed in this league.

If I were him, I'd cancel all my commercials and marketing gigs until I made it. People keep saying it doesn't play a part in it, but reality says different. He needs to decide if he wants bread crumbs on these small shoe/food deals or if he wants to hit it big with a 150 million contract along with the other types of deals in the wing. We'll see if he even gets that opportunity soon enough.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1095209][URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/gruden--rg3--coddled-for-so-long-205304232.html[/URL]


Jay dropping more bombs on Robert's ego.[/quote]

Gruden is not holding back at all on this. My god. Is he trying to get fired or something? Just shut up about RG3 and go win a game. I agree with everything he's saying 100%, and it's kind of refreshing that the HC is not going along with the bullshit over at Redskins Park...but enough already. He's pouring lighter fluid on an already open fire.

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Honestly, all this crap with the media is undermining my ability to stay a fan. I have followed this team religiously for 40 years. But it is becoming intolerable.

Does anyone think that anyone associated with this team is having fun anymore? Football is supposed to be fun -- with all the sniping, it seems that with 6 games left that folks are just trying to get through the season. I thought that enduring that kind of a season last year was bad -- but this feels worse given the re-start we tried with a new coach.

Everyone STFU and play football.

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[quote=calia;1095221]Honestly, all this crap with the media is undermining my ability to stay a fan. I have followed this team religiously for 40 years. But it is becoming intolerable.

Does anyone think that anyone associated with this team is having fun anymore? Football is supposed to be fun -- with all the sniping, it seems that with 6 games left that folks are just trying to get through the season. I thought that enduring that kind of a season last year was bad -- but this feels worse given the re-start we tried with a new coach.

Everyone STFU and play football.[/quote]


[B][SIZE="4"]
@SportingParagon · 4h 4 hours ago

Everything this wk has resulted in the top football guy in DC (Gruden) annexing control of the future of the franchise. That's a good thing.[/SIZE][/B]


This sums it up people. It's accurate, and it's what Jay should be doing.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1095209][url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/gruden--rg3--coddled-for-so-long-205304232.html[/url]


Jay dropping more bombs on Robert's ego.[/quote]

I didn't expect this. I thought Jay would drop it. He must have a big pair made out of brass.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1095224]I didn't expect this. I thought Jay would drop it. He must have a big pair made out of brass.[/quote]
I applaud Jay for this. I would think it a potentially high risk posture for him....BUT all the BS feel good crap we have done for the past generation has brought us mostly grief.....So I say...Good on you Jay! HTTR
Shake this shit down this season and find the bottom...go from there

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1095228]I applaud Jay for this. I would think it a potentially high risk posture for him....BUT all the BS feel good crap we have done for the past generation has brought us mostly grief.....So I say...Good on you Jay! HTTR
Shake this shit down this season and find the bottom...go from there[/QUOTE]


Yeah I agree. Im not sure about his x's and o's yet. However, I love how blunt and honest he is. Bout time someone atleast said "we suck", not a bunch of bullshit lies and false promises. To me that means that the guy gives a shit. He is real about the situation. I, as a fan, actually appreciate the strait answers. Dont have to listen to some a-hole dance around the issues.


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If there's anyone left on RG3's bandwagon, this should clear it out:

[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--robert-griffin-iii-s-issues-214738329.html[/url]

I still want to believe in RG3 and I want him to be successful as a Redskin, but the prospect of doing a complete rebuild job of him as a qb is not exciting at all. I don't know that the fanbase or the FO would be willing to accept the time it would take to accomplish that either.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1095232]If there's anyone left on RG3's bandwagon, this should clear it out:



[url]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--robert-griffin-iii-s-issues-214738329.html[/url]



I still want to believe in RG3 and I want him to be successful as a Redskin, but the prospect of doing a complete rebuild job of him as a qb is not exciting at all. I don't know that the fanbase or the FO would be willing to accept the time it would take to accomplish that either.[/QUOTE]


Good article. This is what I was talking about the other day -about defining talent. Griff is lacking "talent".


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the last time we had a coach this honest it was Marty. He called Darrell Green out and got him to buy in.

Leadership cannot start without honesty. It is about setting one standard and driving folks to it. If they don't buy in then they have to go; period. It can be brutal to watch from the outside.

IMO Gruden is exactly on track. By brining the issue into the public light he is protecting himself, he is in the position of strength. If he was a third year coach he wouldn't have the same leverage. He has this one single season to establish his relationship with higher; he will never have as much leverage as he has now - unless he starts winning. Once he starts winning he has another source of leverage. To win he has to get rid of RG. After this year the window is closed and he becomes more responsible as time goes on.

Don't forget Saint Joe was all about getting rid of Riggins and had issues with Theismann. He also flopped back and forth between DW and Jay Schrader, nothing was given to anyone.

Bottom line is if Gruden can get through this season and get rid of RG we have a chance at a turn around.

Of course this is all my opinion.

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there's another video analysis of RG on yahoo sports (google greg cosell film review)....that one pic with 5 wide open receivers is a bad head shaker, wtf?...I know I see wide open receivers sometimes also but the regular broadcast sometimes doesn't show the entire field....it would be nice to be able to see the overhead camera angles on all of the sacks/interceptions/bad passes to see our receivers waving their hands saying ''hey..I'm open!!


Unfortunately I do not see RG recovering/getting better....last year he got a pass with the knee injury. This year there are no excuses and he must know his career is on the line with every snap. The fear of failure is paralyzing him and he reverts back to the happy feet/run first option he is used to. Every day is more and more criticism and he just can't handle it. I just can't believe the team is cohesive at all when you have your leader playing subpar, not getting better, and knowing he is protected by the owner. Granted we are not an NFL team, but we have the same issue at my job....one golden boy who is really not that great at his job but the boss loves him......but everyone else on the team hates him. Don't know if that is the case on the Redskins.....but it just doesn't seem they are playing like a team at all......

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[url=http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/11/21/steve-young-and-the-art-of-molding-a-mobile-quarterback/]San Francisco 49ers News — Niner Insider Blog » Steve Young and the art of molding a mobile quarterback[/url]

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[quote=Kope;1095239]the last time we had a coach this honest it was Marty. He called Darrell Green out and got him to buy in.

Leadership cannot start without honesty. It is about setting one standard and driving folks to it. If they don't buy in then they have to go; period. It can be brutal to watch from the outside.

IMO Gruden is exactly on track. By brining the issue into the public light he is protecting himself, he is in the position of strength. If he was a third year coach he wouldn't have the same leverage. He has this one single season to establish his relationship with higher; he will never have as much leverage as he has now - unless he starts winning. Once he starts winning he has another source of leverage. To win he has to get rid of RG. After this year the window is closed and he becomes more responsible as time goes on.

Don't forget Saint Joe was all about getting rid of Riggins and had issues with Theismann. He also flopped back and forth between DW and Jay Schrader, nothing was given to anyone.

Bottom line is if Gruden can get through this season and get rid of RG we have a chance at a turn around.

Of course this is all my opinion.[/quote]

good insight. The Marty/DG reference was spot on. I remember Marty actually showing DG how to back pedal during Training Camp! Also, wasn't it Marty who brought in the mandatory Oklahoma drills?

But, back to the topic...I think you're onto this....Gruden is definitely "breaking RG3 down to try to build him back better". It still could work. Check the history between Chuck Noll and Terry Bradshaw- a very Public building project that actually paid off over time.

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I understand why Kope thinks that Jay is protecting himself by bringing the issue of RGIII's lack of fundamentals into the open, but who knows what Dan Snyder might do? For all we know, Jay Gruden's future as HC of the Redskins has already been decided. Still, it's a gutsy thing for Jay to do. I just hope that RGIII doesn't run crying to Snyder.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1095243][url=http://blog.sfgate.com/49ers/2014/11/21/steve-young-and-the-art-of-molding-a-mobile-quarterback/]San Francisco 49ers News — Niner Insider Blog » Steve Young and the art of molding a mobile quarterback[/url][/QUOTE]


Excellent article. Snyder ought to pay SY $5 million a year to coach this.


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Gruden fields an unprepared team week in, week out. This team is actually worse than last years team and that team tanked the season. Getting blown out like they have been is a cause to fire Gruden who IMO was a mediocre coach. Even more trouble than having a mediocre coach is having a mediocre "GM."

The Skins are so fcked.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1095265]I understand why Kope thinks that Jay is protecting himself by bringing the issue of RGIII's lack of fundamentals into the open, but who knows what Dan Snyder might do? For all we know, Jay Gruden's future as HC of the Redskins has already been decided. Still, it's a gutsy thing for Jay to do. I just hope that RGIII doesn't run crying to Snyder.[/quote]

that is kind of my point...agreed - who knows what Snyder will do, but at least Gruden is going down swinging, doing what he thinks is right. If it works I think he will turn it around. If it doesn't he is gone and we never getting out of this hole.

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2014/11/22/terry-shea-says-robert-griffin-iiis-fundamentals-deserved-a-b-against-tampa-bay/]Terry Shea says Robert Griffin III’s fundamentals deserved a ‘B’ against Tampa Bay - The Washington Post[/url]


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