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Jimmy Moreland cut by the Eagles. The People's Corner! (Actually, I assume that the folks worth a look are far more likely in the last round of cuts, not this round.)

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[quote=calia;1319687]Jimmy Moreland cut by the Eagles. The People's Corner! (Actually, I assume that the folks worth a look are far more likely in the last round of cuts, not this round.)[/quote]

Hey, don't talk that way about the People's Corner!

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[quote=calia;1319687]Jimmy Moreland cut by the Eagles. The People's Corner! (Actually, I assume that the folks worth a look are far more likely in the last round of cuts, not this round.)[/quote]

Daryl Roberts and Torry McTyer are still free agents and given the depth we have I am surprised we haven't called either of them

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1319644]B.R Looks like a freaking mack truck too lol[/quote]

Doc compared him to Stephen Davis ... only saw a few carries but I could see it, one cut up field, could narrow his body to slide through semi holes and always falls forward for 2 extra yards.

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“He’s a perfectionist,” Jordan said. “So he may break off 20 yards, and I’m back there clapping, and I’m like, ‘Great job.’ He’s pissed because he didn’t go for 40.”

[B]Jordan recommended that Washington spends a draft pick on Robinson[/B], even though their current backfield contained Antonio Gibson and J.D. McKissic. In today’s era with the committee-style approach of running the ball, Robinson is set to get his fair share of carries.

[url]https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/washington-rookie-running-back-brian-robinson-jr-alabama-randy-jordan-jd-mckissic-antonio-gibson-patience[/url]

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Logan Paulsen was praising his foot work and is very high on him.

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Crazy how Robinson has went from a questionable pick by lots of us (all fans/analyst, not just here) to looking like a great pick that will be a big part of our offense.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319717]Crazy how Robinson has went from a questionable pick by lots of us (all fans/analyst, not just here) to looking like a great pick that will be a big part of our offense.[/quote]

Personally I loved the BR pick from the jump. We needed a guy to turn to if/when Gibson gets hurt or keeps coughing it up. This year though Gibson might not get the job back. He's going to be on a short leash.

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BR is the ultimate old school RB, I love that dude

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1319726]BR is the ultimate old school RB, I love that dude[/quote]He also protects the ball and even in the SEC along with being able to catch also. He has all the tools to be our dynamic every down back for a long time.

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Former Terp CB Tino Ellis was released by the Phins. UDFA last year

Former Panthers 2016 1st round pick DT Vernon Butler released by Bills. #CommanthersAlert

Former 1st rounder DT Robert Nkemdiche released

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-roster-cuts-tracker-team-by-team-player-moves-ahead-of-the-2022-season[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1319720]Personally I loved the BR pick from the jump. We needed a guy to turn to if/when Gibson gets hurt or keeps coughing it up. This year though Gibson might not get the job back. He's going to be on a short leash.[/quote]

I did as well. No way they could just roll with AG again given his injury history and propensity to turn the ball over. I never really understood why people didn't like the BR pick.

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[quote=MTK;1319720]Personally I loved the BR pick from the jump. We needed a guy to turn to if/when Gibson gets hurt or keeps coughing it up. This year though Gibson might not get the job back. He's going to be on a short leash.[/quote]

He should be on a short leash already. 6 fumbles last year and he didn't even make it to halftime of his first preseason game without fumbling again. He keeps dropping the rock - at this point it's inexcusable.

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I can see a situation where Robinson handles most of the main RB duties on 1st and 2nd downs and Gibson becomes more of a swiss army knife/3rd down back along with McKissic.

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[quote=MTK;1319734]I can see a situation where Robinson handles most of the main RB duties on 1st and 2nd downs and Gibson becomes more of a swiss army knife/3rd down back along with McKissic.[/quote]Gibson and McKissic on the field at the same time in a 3rd down back role for certain formations would be great. Tons of options for this offense.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1319736]Gibson and McKissic on the field at the same time in a 3rd down back role for certain formations would be great. Tons of options for this offense.[/quote]

As long as its not 3rd and short, one of the 2 would most likely to be paired up vs a LB.
Comes down to Wentz seeing and making the quick decision throws vs passing them up for longer developing plays.

im worried about Wentz and west coast offense play calls.

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You guys are gushing over Robinson after one pre season game..lol. . Might want to wait until he actually does something in a few regular season games. All he has done in the NFL is have a few nice carries in one pre season game. Just remember Matt Jones was the same kind of back. Not saying BR will be Jones but just wait until we get to the regular season, then we can judge him.

Gibson still has been a pretty productive player minus the fumbles. If he can clean that up he is still be a very good back. You need two guys.

Take a deep breath folks. It's pre season.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319739]You guys are gushing over Robinson after one pre season game..lol. . Might want to wait until he actually does something in a few regular season games. All he has done in the NFL is have a few nice carries in one pre season game. Just remember Matt Jones was the same kind of back. Not saying BR will be Jones but just wait until we get to the regular season, then we can judge him.

Gibson still has been a pretty productive player minus the fumbles. If he can clean that up he is still be a very good back. You need two guys.

Take a deep breath folks. It's pre season.[/quote]

Actually I was gushing over Robinson before the preseason started. He has all the tools, and he's been a RB his whole football life. It makes a difference. He had to wait for his opportunity sitting behind guys like Najee Harris, Damien Harris, and Josh Jacobs. He had three fumbles in five seasons at Alabama, and over 1600 yards from scrimmage in his only full year as the RB1. Not a lot of wear and tear... What's not to gush about?

AG is a good back, and can be productive, but also cannot be trusted. I don't think we need any more of a sample size to prove that.

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I don't even care about last week, it's about his tape at Alabama and the fact Gibson keeps fumbling.

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BAMA has put some studs in the league over the last 10 years.. We have 2 of them.

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Ingram , Henry , Harris , Harris , Josh Jacobs, Robinson..

Yeah they are RBU

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319739]You guys are gushing over Robinson after one pre season game..lol. . Might want to wait until he actually does something in a few regular season games. All he has done in the NFL is have a few nice carries in one pre season game. Just remember Matt Jones was the same kind of back. Not saying BR will be Jones but just wait until we get to the regular season, then we can judge him.

Gibson still has been a pretty productive player minus the fumbles. If he can clean that up he is still be a very good back. You need two guys.

Take a deep breath folks. It's pre season.[/quote]

I was thinking Seastrunk but yes, Matt Jones is the perfect comp. Nice pull. Forgot about that guy. 2015 3rd round pick, almost same height 6'2" and weight 230 lb as Robinson.

Gibson was one of seven RB to go for over 1k last year, avg 4 yds a carry ... but he also led the league in fumbles.

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1319645]Schweitzer now injured[/quote]

Hip injury. Hope it's nothing serious. He's underrated IMO, and can play 3 positions. I could see him start over Trai Turner if healthy.

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Bring back the people's corner!! Jimmy Moreland was just cut by the Eagles.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1319753]Bring back the people's corner!! Jimmy Moreland was just cut by the Eagles.[/quote]

I think we'll have plenty of other - better options for Special Teams.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319754]I think we'll have plenty of other - better options for Special Teams.[/quote]

He's better than William "toast" Jackson.

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LOL, no way. I know he was a popular guy here, but there's a reason why he was released, rode the pine in Houston, and has now been released again in the first cuts.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1319717]Crazy how Robinson has went from a questionable pick by lots of us (all fans/analyst, not just here) to looking like a great pick that will be a big part of our offense.[/quote]

I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319762]I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.[/quote]

They def love Bama guys, I think he'll be a good back though.. Is he a JT28 or Zeke in his prime? Prob not but he'll be solid

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319762]I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.[/quote]

He may not be great at any one thing but I think he'll be good at everything he is asked to do. The only thing I might question about picking him might be the round in which he was taken. Doc Walker compared him to Stephen Davis.

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The only time I take a RB in the first 3 rounds if he is a Marshall Faulk, Tomlinson type. Those guys were elite runners obviously, but also they were elite pass catchers as well. You could split them out and they could literally run all the wr routes, so they were difficult to defend. In the league today this is the only type of backs that I'd want.

The BR type of backs to me are sort of a dime a dozen. You can find them anywhere really, deep in the draft or UFA. Henry is the exception obviously.

But the few runs BR had he hit the damn hole hard and moved the pile. No messing around so that was nice to see.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1319765]They def love Bama guys, I think he'll be a good back though.. Is he a JT28 or Zeke in his prime? Prob not but he'll be solid[/quote]

They def have a lot of great players no doubt. But they have had their fair share of busts. Or overhyped players that are just sort of meh in the pros.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319762]I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.[/quote]

I think the bottom line is they really liked Robinson in Round 3, and there was a need based on Gibson's performance. That's it... Is he "special" at this or that? We'll see once he gets regular season reps against NFL starters. Right now you can't say he is or isn't. There sure seems to be a lot of buzz about him though.

Was he picked too early? You can ask that question every year with every team's picks. To me, if he ends up being the starting RB, which could happen sooner than later, then I think it doesn't matter when he was drafted.

I'm not sure where you get that the Shanahan's don't draft RBs in the first three rounds. While they have found some gems outside the first three rounds, they have both definitely drafted several RBs in the first three rounds.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319762]I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.[/quote]

Kyle drafted a RB in the 3rd round two times in a row - this year and last year. Although Mike might be the exception - without checking, I don't remember Mike drafting one in the first 3 rounds.

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[quote=GridIron26;1319775]Kyle drafted a RB in the 3rd round two times in a row - this year and last year. Although Mike might be the exception - without checking, I don't remember Mike drafting one in the first 3 rounds.[/quote]

Portis was a 2nd rounder in Denver

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[quote=GridIron26;1319775]Kyle drafted a RB in the 3rd round two times in a row - this year and last year. Although Mike might be the exception - without checking, I don't remember Mike drafting one in the first 3 rounds.[/quote]

Maurice Clarett, Tatum Bell, Clinton Portis, Detron Smith

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319774]I think the bottom line is they really liked Robinson in Round 3, and there was a need based on Gibson's performance. That's it... Is he "special" at this or that? We'll see once he gets regular season reps against NFL starters. Right now you can't say he is or isn't. There sure seems to be a lot of buzz about him though.

Was he picked too early? You can ask that question every year with every team's picks. To me, if he ends up being the starting RB, which could happen sooner than later, then I think it doesn't matter when he was drafted.

I'm not sure where you get that the Shanahan's don't draft RBs in the first three rounds. While they have found some gems outside the first three rounds, they have both definitely drafted several RBs in the first three rounds.[/quote]

I never said they didn't draft them in the 3rd round. I said if skinsfan69 were a GM I wouldn't draft any...lol. But I am obviously not an NFL GM or coach.

Shanahan's have had a lot of success w/ backs that were taken late... Mike Anderson, Terrell Davis, Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, Olandis Gary to name a few..

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[quote=skinsfan69;1319781]I never said they didn't draft them in the 3rd round. I said if skinsfan69 were a GM I wouldn't draft any...lol. But I am obviously not an NFL GM or coach.

Shanahan's have had a lot of success w/ backs that were taken late... Mike Anderson, Terrell Davis, Arian Foster, Alfred Morris, Olandis Gary to name a few..[/quote]

You said that you used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs, and would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft.

I took that as you saying the Shanahans never drafted RBs in the first three rounds.

Anyway, as with all draft picks, if they turn out to be productive NFL starters, or even better - game changing superstars, I don't think it matters much where they were picked.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319780]Maurice Clarett, Tatum Bell, Clinton Portis, Detron Smith[/quote]

Wasn't Alfred Morris a 3rd rounder?

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1319783]Wasn't Alfred Morris a 3rd rounder?[/quote]

6th

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[quote=MTK;1319791]6th[/quote]

Drat!

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JDR was very poised and parsimonious with his words in his first press conf since the "dust up" fine. Which is good.
He didn't take any bait regarding the issue. Had "nothing to add". Asked about his Twitter account suppression, he replied "personal choice". That was exactly what he needed to do IMO. Shut up, move on, let's talk ball.

One thing I thought was interesting was, in his reply about the firing of the previous DL coach, "I'd have to defer to Coach [...] I think he spelled that out with you guys, I have nothing to add. [...] Coach has a good sense of what he wants to do, and our job as STAFF MEMBERS is to make it come to life [...]".
I guess technically anybody underneath the Head Coach can be referred to as "coaching staff" but you don't hear a Defensive Coordinator talk about himself as a "staff member". Not trying to read too much into it, but the whole thing sounded like he was actively trying to build this image that he is a mere soldier following Commander Ron's orders. I guess that's a good thing, but with what we know about Jack's personality, you can't help but wonder how long he's going to quietly enjoy this low tone Private Jack's role.

Also, when asked about what he liked about the new DL coach, coach Z, he didn't exactly sound overly excited, and the thing he kept saying was show well "the guys" were responding to him. It really felt like this was a decision the players asked for and Ron made, but not something JDR was really consulted about.

Not trying to find drama where there's maybe nothing at all. But with a lot of us feeling like it's a do or die year for Jack, his relationship with Ron is something to keep an eye on.

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