Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=tdSKINS1;555082]Sadly for him? Dude are you an NFL talent evaluator. Of course its competitive of course its hard. But you actually think he has sat on his ass and not done anything to help his body out? OK I've heard so much on how is passing is whatever who gives a shit [B]he still can win ball games he has proven that on so many occasions. He is a playmaker who cares how he gets it done[/B]. Throw all the statistics you want about how bad he is at passing who cares he still can win.[/quote]

No, he hasn't proven anything for two years. In the best scenario you need to change your claims from present tense to past tense.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;555087]I don't understand your position. Vick is a quality qb and a playmaker that should start in the league. But the team that was built for and around him is better off with a second year qb? If he has the talent to be a playmaker, then Atlanta should be his best chance. Everywhere else he is being patched in to overcome another qb's deficiencies. (the Falcons are only 1 year removed from Vick, so they have not changed their player structure that much)[/quote]

Atlanta has moved on and gone in a different direction. They've invested in Matt Ryan. And Vick has burned his bridges in Atlanta by lying to the owner. He'll never play there again. But SF might be a place for him. Or maybe Mora will take him back in Seattle to back up Hassleback. He's got Vick's old OC there so we'll see.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=wolfeskins;555090]atlanta is better suited [B]with a passing qb,[/B] they were trying to [B]make vick become more of a passing qb[/B] but it was not working. ryan is a great passer, therefor, a better fit for the falcons offense.[/quote]

Wow, I would have thought EVERY team is better suited with a passing quarterback, and you imply that Vick could not become a passing qb. Therefore, I would say Vick is not the best suited qb for any offense. Is McNabb NOT a passing qb? It is fine to be a qb that can run, or pressure the D that way, but unless a team wants a qb to handoff every time he has to be a passing qb. Vick never got that, and I doubt playing yardball for the last year or so, would have helped his game any. But then, Minnesota is talking to Favre so, hey, I'll believe anything.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=tdSKINS1;555080]How did he have the worst QB abilities in the league? I highly doubt that he only has been to multiple pro bowls and almost took the falcons to the Superbowl yea he is a bad QB sorry[/quote]


I forgive you

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=skinsfan69;555089]As a pure pocket passer yes he was not coming into his own and he may never have. But that doesn't mean he wasn't an effective QB. When you total in his rushing yards, the pressure he puts on a defense, the way he makes rushers stay in their lanes, the way he tires out a defense from chasing him around, having to have an extra guy stay home and spy on him.....all these things really don't show up on passing stats but if you went around and asked NFL defensive players and coordinators they'd tell you he was a pretty effective player, pretty tough to defend but not a polished pocket guy. To say he's a faster Kordell may bit accurate but saying he's not worthy of being under center is just silly. We'll agree to disagree..[/quote]

Point well taken. I certainly understand your stance, but we have different fundamental beliefs on what a good / effective qb is. He is / was certainly someone that caused problems for defenses though. So you are correct, we will agree to disagree.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;555072]elusiveness jsarno elusiveness, got you back[/quote]

LOL...thanks buddy. I certainly have a weakness when it comes to spelling.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

My dog just said that Vick is a bad, bad QB and should have his nose smacked with a rolled up newspaper.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=Lotus;555111]My dog just said that Vick is a bad, bad QB and should have his nose smacked with a rolled up newspaper.[/quote]

LOL. I still have the michael vick chew toys. (took them like a year to get it to me)

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=jsarno;555110]LOL...thanks buddy. I certainly have a weakness when it comes to spelling.[/quote]


no problem i look out for everyone

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=budw38;554761]Does anybody still believe that peta cares about animals ? Peta is all about $$$$ .[/quote]
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I worked for a professional rodeo company and PETA was the number one group we had to worry about. They thought they were doing good but would end up making things worse if not deadly for the animals. PETA is a group of fringe wackos whose best interests are in anything but the animals IMHO.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[URL="http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college-football/story/704953.html"]Sam Huff has no sympathy for Vick.[/URL]

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;555094]Wow, I would have thought EVERY team is better suited with a passing quarterback, and you imply that Vick could not become a passing qb. Therefore, I would say Vick is not the best suited qb for any offense. Is McNabb NOT a passing qb? It is fine to be a qb that can run, or pressure the D that way, but unless a team wants a qb to handoff every time he has to be a passing qb. Vick never got that, and I doubt playing yardball for the last year or so, would have helped his game any. But then, Minnesota is talking to Favre so, hey, I'll believe anything.[/quote]


sorry, i should have been more specific. a GOOD passing qb. vick was not a good passing qb. he was great at running but struggled at passing.

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=TheSmurfs22;555120]~~~~~
I worked for a professional rodeo company and PETA was the number one group we had to worry about. They thought they were doing good but would end up making things worse if not deadly for the animals. PETA is a group of fringe wackos whose best interests are in anything but the animals IMHO.[/quote] I watched a news piece done on Peta a few years ago . One of Peta's " leaders " was at American University showing students how to make homemade bombs ,,,, crazy ? Not suprising those kinds of nuts get invited to speak at our Universities ?

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

[quote=tryfuhl;554941]PETA performs euthanasia at a higher rate than most shelters.[/quote]Biggest bunch of hypocrites in the world. Most animal shelters throughout Hampton Roads (PETA's HQ is in Norfolk) have a euthanasia rate of under 35%. PETA's is consistently over 90%.

[url=http://www.petakillsanimals.com/petasdirtysecret.cfm]Peta Kills Animals[/url]

Re: Michael Vick in Talks to Become PETA Spokesman
 

Whats ironic is that they are called "peta"