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[quote=CultBrennan59;894558]Why? Theres no need! We have our QB!

RG3
Rex
Beck or Rookie late round undrafted QB (Austin Davis or Kellen moore)[/quote]

Either a smokescreen or they believe that learning behind Peyton Manning could be invaluable for the young prospect.

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How about we all just look at it this way... AND IN THIS ORDER....

[IMG]https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1856955325/RGIII.jpg[/IMG]

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[IMG]http://homelesszombie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rg3.jpg[/IMG]

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpMWjmfwhCg&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLFA6876AA8B4EB8B8]Robert Griffin III - 2011 Heisman Winner (Highlights in HD) - YouTube[/url]

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[QUOTE=redskins5044;894553]Or traded picks for Jason Taylor for one year.[/QUOTE]


Or traded two picks for Brandon Lloyd.

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I hope RGIII is the next Jim Thorpe.

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Another good thing: This may be a sign that Snyder is willing to be patient with MS in the next three years.

So hopefully MS has been given a Mulligan for the wasted McNabb year.

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[quote=Lotus;894546]You and I have been together calling for QB quality. In fact, to give proper credit, you were there first.

But isn't the price awful steep? We don't have a first round pick until the next Presidential cycle is gearing up.[/quote]

Yes its steep but if he's even a good starter its worth it. If he's a franchise qb its a steal. We have wasted season after season looking for the guy...enough was enough.

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So does Gaffney give up his #10 to Mr. Griffin?

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[quote=celts32;894574]Yes its steep but if he's even a good starter its worth it. If he's a franchise qb its a steal. We have wasted season after season looking for the guy...enough was enough.[/quote]

Fair enough.

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I like this one, "Hail To The Redskins" : [IMG]http://homelesszombie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rg3.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Hail to the Redskins;894569]How about we all just look at it this way... AND IN THIS ORDER....

[IMG]https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1856955325/RGIII.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405395_3069372372112_1197664112_33344875_371704324_n.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://homelesszombie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rg3.jpg[/IMG][/quote]

I LOVE that last pic.

The first ones funny cause you can tell its a very big bodied guy with rg3s face on it haha

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[quote=skinsnut;894555]I agree.
for 3 first rounders and a 2nd...do you think we could have gotten Drew Breese?..or any pro bowl QB out there?....I say ....possibly.
This guy is an unknown commodity...and yes...the skins paid way too much...I am bummed, but at least I am hopeful[/quote]Yeah, though Drew Brees' franchise tag is exclusive specifically so we couldn't have signed him for less than it cost to get RG3.

The list of QBs you couldn't have got for this price is Andrew Luck, Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Philip Rivers and maybe Eli?

You probably could have gotten Matthew Stafford for this price. I think at least.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;894561]Now that it's official Robert Griffin III will be a Redskin, I'm very elated. I feel a since of satisfaction and I doubt seriously if RG3 will bust. He could make the pro bowl in his rookie season. [B]But it's important that there's not an enormous amount of pressure on him[/B]. I just want to see him succeed.[/quote]

But that's what seems to make him stand out from the rest- is him appearing to have the maturity to be able to handle that pressure, being a hardworker, and also a student of the game. That's what the qb busts didn't have even though they had all the talent in the world.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;894465]One thing this deal does for us, getting it done now, is give us some leverage with courting potential free agents, especially a big time receiver.

Gotta figure out how to shore up the D and the O-line as well...not going to be easy.

But hey, chances are RG3 will be a good one for some time, but dang...can't get over the price. Hopefully this time next year I will be over it :)[/quote]

This is exactly what i like about the deal, no ones lining up to play with Rex

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I know it's been posted before... but it is now time for it officially...

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I'd like to know RGIII's thoughts currently.....

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[quote=Gtothearry;894564]True, but we may have missed out on a great QB if we didn't make the trade. Ya never know........[/quote]Well, all great QBs are prospects first.

I was just saying that RG3 isn't going to carry the team and make everyone else better first year out of college. He might be better than expected in year one. He actually probably will be. But we're still not a great team yet. And this definitely hurts the ability for us to draft a great team.

We can try to sign a team still. Lots of talent out there. But it's been mixed results in the past.

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We will have a made in Japan QB, RGIII was born in Japan.

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[quote=Lotus;894566]We traded a king's ransom for him. There is huge pressure on him starting right now.[/quote]

Yeah that's another downside to this. We really have to be careful about putting the franchise on his shoulders. Too much pressure and he might be the next David Carr.

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[quote=GTripp0012;894581]Yeah, though Drew Brees' franchise tag is exclusive specifically so we couldn't have signed him for less than it cost to get RG3.

The list of QBs you couldn't have got for this price is Andrew Luck, Tom Brady, Cam Newton, Philip Rivers and maybe Eli?

You probably could have gotten Matthew Stafford for this price. I think at least.[/quote]

BTW Tripp, I saw on Twitter something similar to what you said some weeks ago...about Shanahan not caring about the first rounder in two or three years years.

I think it makes sense in a way. Shanahan is going to roll with RG3, get two years with him to make it work. And well if he doesn't work out, MS would be gone.

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I may have to break out my Superman socks on draft day.

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FATE.. and our typical poor luck caused the 3 1st Round Picks to go...

In my thinking... there are 3 unique factors that FORCED the Skins into 3-1st Round Picks:

A) The Browns - We just HAPPENED (our luck) to be competing with a team who had 2 1st round picks when we are trying to trade up. Bad coincidence... this drove the asking price up.

B) Peyton Manning - Apparently, Peyton Manning was not going to be a backup/fallback option and our whole FO & Staff knew we NEEDED one of the "big 3 (Luck, RGII, Manning)"... this drove our buying point up.

C) WR Position - We just happen to be shopping for a top-teir FA WR at the same time as this scenario is playing out. This means we had to make a deal early, before free agency starts. Hard to sell a WR on a team with no QB... The flip-side is, the cost goes up BECAUSE free agency hasn't started, with FA QB options landing with teams competing for the #2 pick.

Ouch. 3 bad coincidences that just happened to hit us as this trade played out.

I say... hey... they realized they had to do what they had to do to get their guy. I hate losing the 2nd round pick the most, though... but... hey...

WE HAVE A REAL HOPE AT THE QB POSITION FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A LOOOOOONNNNGGG TIME!!! LET'S CELEBRATE THAT, NOT WHAT THE FUTURE PICKS "MAY" HAVE BEEN!!

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I don't know if some of you all have a twitter, but it is great for sports news, especially stuff like this


Grant Paulsen, Peter King, Mike Wise, John Keim, Chad Dukes, Anthony Armstrong, Carriker, Darnell Dockett are all giving their opinions rapidly on this trade..good stuff.

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[quote=hail to the redskins;894569]how about we all just look at it this way... And in this order....

[img]https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1856955325/rgiii.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://homelesszombie.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/rg3.jpg[/img][/quote]

looooooove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;894592]I don't know if some of you all have a twitter, but it is great for sports news, especially stuff like this


Grant Paulsen, Peter King, Mike Wise, John Keim, Chad Dukes, Anthony Armstrong, Carriker, Darnell Dockett are all giving their opinions rapidly on this trade..good stuff.[/QUOTE]

Don't have twitter what did chad dukes have to say.

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Three 1st round picks and a 2nd? I guess when you are competing against Cleveland, you had to roll the dice and pony up, but that is a shit ton of picks.

I'm not sure how I feel about this other than i'm happy for the QB rumour mill to be stopped.

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Forget about "importance" of first round picks and consider reality. We swapped 1st round picks this year and gave up two more in the future plus a second. Only about 50% of 1st round picks work out and it drops from there. Just playing the odds, only two of the 4 picks we gave up would likely have worked out.

It was a steep price to pay, but IF Griffin works out, it's well worth it. If we win the next few years, those future picks will be even less valuable. IF griffin works out, who cares what we gave up?

OH MY GOD THAT GUY BETTER BE AMAZING( using more restraint than I ever have in my life)

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BTW, kudos to Glazer for breaking the news. Very impressed with him.

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Tannehill, Foles, Kellen Moore, Kirk Cousins, and Brock Osweiler would have all represented great hope for the future at the quarterback position.

You don't trade three first rounders for hope. You trade them for wins.

Actual. Tangible wins. No more of this 11-21 crap. That what you trade picks for.

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Thank god no Tannehill

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I hope my baseless hunch that Luck is ours is correct.

I'm such a maverick. :laughing-

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Oh an for all of you griping about how rg3 only has the POTENTIAL to be a franchise QB, the picks we gave up were also just players with POTENTIAL. We chose griffins potential vs that of 4 other players. It's not as ridiculous as some of you are making it out to be.

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I'm so happy with this! In an odd way, I feel like we have some closure. In an odd way.

Now we have to go win some games.

[QUOTE=Bushead;894596]Three 1st round picks and a 2nd? I guess when you are competing against Cleveland, you had to roll the dice and pony up, but that is a shit ton of picks.

I'm not sure how I feel about this other than i'm happy for the QB rumour mill to be stopped.[/QUOTE]

We swapped 1st rounders this year. So we gave up 2 1st rounders and 2nd rounder, it is still a steep price.

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[quote=Ruhskins;894601]BTW, kudos to Glazer for breaking the news. Very impressed with him.[/quote]

watch the real sports segment on him..very interesting and amazing how much he is respected around the league..He and schefter are my go to guys..Jlac just steals there info and is always finishing last reporting that stuff

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[quote=redskins5044;894595]Don't have twitter what did chad dukes have to say.[/quote]

"If you are sh*tting on the #Redskins right now, you simply don't know the history of their struggles at QB. This is a great night."

chad dukes ‏ @chaddukes Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Bravo to the #Redskins. Get your franchise QB. Let the @ddockett laugh all he wants. He has as many Super Bowl wins as I do.

Darnell Dockett trashed us btw

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I know this..

A backfield filled with RGIII and Roy Helu is a damn powder-keg of speed ready to break a big play at any time.

Fastest QB/RB combo in the league (at least tied with Vick/McCoy).

Matter of fact.. they could start implementing some of those quick-draws those Eagles run with their guys instantaneously.

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Well at least there wont be any pressure on him.

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Three first round picks is an awful lot. It leaves somewhat of a void. But the Redskins can still build a team around RG3. This let's us know that for the next few off seasons the Redskins will be major players in free agency to be able to make up for those 1st round draft picks. At least we get our QB. But in a way, this puts tons and tons of pressure on Griffin III to perform well from day one. But I know he'll do his best because of what the Redskins gave up to get him.