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[quote=Chico23231;1226738]Im iffy on Qinn...he is already injured again. I hope Gruden doesn't settle for an underproducing, injured player. If our 3 best WR are Mclaurin, Sims and P Rich...both Rich and Mclaurin has slot experience...then Quinn should go to the bench.[/quote]

I was gonna say...I never saw Quinn on the field yesterday at all.

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Sua on the team doctors "2 years later and I’m still fighting the Skins on something they’ve continued to do countless time . Which is why the best tackle in the game refuses to play for them now. Same reason I left. Mishandled injuries and withheld info. All evidence points to them being guilty!"

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1226743]Sua on the team doctors "2 years later and I’m still fighting the Skins on something they’ve continued to do countless time . Which is why the best tackle in the game refuses to play for them now. Same reason I left. Mishandled injuries and withheld info. All evidence points to them being guilty!"[/quote]

You know, Sua coming out and trying to make this a big deal may work in our favor...because when Trent sees Sua taking HIS side, maybe he'll think to himself, I can't be siding with this loser! And he'll come to the team and try and work something out!

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[quote=Redskins247;1226759]You know, Sua coming out and trying to make this a big deal may work in our favor...because when Trent sees Sua taking HIS side, maybe he'll think to himself, I can't be siding with this loser! And he'll come to the team and try and work something out![/quote]

I hope that's the case

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You have to wonder if the Skins are holding on to their medical staff to avoid countless litigations.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1226762]You have to wonder if the Skins are holding on to their medical staff to avoid countless litigations.[/quote]

Firing them would definitely take on the optics of admitting guilt.

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I’d like to see McLaurin, Cam Sims and Richardson starting with the first team in Game 2. Put Davis, Quinn and McKinsy on the second team.
Dump Doctson and move on.


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[quote=Warthog;1226780]I’d like to see McLaurin, Cam Sims and Richardson starting with the first team in Game 2. Put Davis, Quinn and McKinsy on the second team.
Dump Doctson and move on.


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What has Richardson done? He’s too frail, has a stupid contract, dump him and give Doctson a final chance.

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They’ve paid Richardson too much money to dump him. He’s made a few catches in the PS and has been helping the rookies as a mentor. Still I agree with you, if he gets outplayed by McLaurin, Cam Sims, Davis, Kidsy, Quinn or Harmon, then dump him. He’s another guy like Doctson who won’t be here after this season is over.


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Another step towards the end of the "change the name" drama :

[URL="https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/10/poll-of-native-americans-view-of-redskins-name-finds-proud-most-common-answer/"]Poll of Native Americans view of Redskins name finds "Proud" as the most common answer[/URL]

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[quote=Chico23231;1226735]So listened to a Redskins report on the junks driving in who was talking about the young receivers.

So he said among the coaching staff, Terry Mclaurin has blown away everyone. When they drafted him, they thought he was a ace special player and a rotational WR. Mclaurin speed and big play ability...he has clearly been the best WR on the field and will start at Doctson position. Cam Sims has been the second best wide receiver. The starters will probably be: McLaurin at Doctson position and P Rich. P Rich will probably be the off the ball WR allowing him not to be jammed at Line. Quinn will be the Slot but they will work Cam Sims in as well in packages to bring size on the outside.[/quote]Thank you for the report! Awesome news about Mclaurin. Kid seems like a total gamer. Eager to see if your prediction is correct about him starting. Richardson is fast and can be reasonably productive. Not ready to throw the towel in on him yet. Agree about Quinn needing to stay healthy. Love Cam Sims' size and hands. Also wanna see what he can bring to the table.

HTTR!

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Jay Gruden said Colt McCoy was a little sore after Sunday’s practice. Said he’s not sure yet about him for Thursday night. McCoy still not quite 100 percent after his leg injury last December.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1226859]Jay Gruden said Colt McCoy was a little sore after Sunday’s practice. Said he’s not sure yet about him for Thursday night. McCoy still not quite 100 percent after his leg injury last December.[/quote]

Sorry for Colt, but I would rather Keenum and Haskins get all the reps in the next two games, then let Colt showcase himself for his next team in game 4

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Send him to the PUP list and lets see Keenum vs Haskins the rest of camp

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Got to start off camp on PUP, can't go there now

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Guice is not cleared for contact yet, that is concerning

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That injury Colt had was a lot more serious then they let on. It's been 8 or 9 months and he's still having issues, plus he had a 2nd procedure done.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1226872]That injury Colt had was a lot more serious then they let on. It's been 8 or 9 months and he's still having issues, plus he had a 2nd procedure done.[/quote]

Yea he's probably done too, he never could stay healthy to begin with. It's Case and Dwayne's race now

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I wish they'd stop with this Colt and Case nonsense. Just go all in on getting Haskins ready. Dumb the offense down, dumb the verbiage down, just get him ready to play. The kid has arm talent out the wazoo. Make it work.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1226869]Guice is not cleared for contact yet, that is concerning[/quote]

I think that's just abundance of caution.

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[quote=MTK;1226875]I wish they'd stop with this Colt and Case nonsense. Just go all in on getting Haskins ready. Dumb the offense down, dumb the verbiage down, just get him ready to play. The kid has arm talent out the wazoo. Make it work.[/quote]

Let the battle continue, but I don't want him out there the first several weeks if he is not ready versus a tough schedule and especially if silverblunt is out. I don't want to get him killed immediately.

IMO Colt is still injured and he should not be in the convo.

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[quote=MTK;1226875]I wish they'd stop with this Colt and Case nonsense. Just go all in on getting Haskins ready. Dumb the offense down, dumb the verbiage down, just get him ready to play. The kid has arm talent out the wazoo. Make it work.[/quote]

Tell that to Jay Gruden, whose job is on the line.

I hear what you are saying, but Jay seems to know that it is playoffs or bust for him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1226880]Tell that to Jay Gruden, whose job is on the line.

I hear what you are saying, but Jay seems to know that it is playoffs or bust for him.[/quote]

Agreed.
Plus I think from a coaching stand point, you have to show your players you're doing every thing you can to win. These guys aren't doing long term politics, they're going onto the football field to win some games. Let whoever legitimately wins the QB battle in camp get the starting job. At least for the beginning of the season.

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Common sense would tell you if you start a rookie QB that there may be some growing pains. I think Snyder has been around long enough to know that. Starting Keenum to maybe try and get another win or two just does nothing for me. Keenum went 6-10 last year with Denver. Who's to say he can do better here?

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[quote=Schneed10;1226876]I think that's just abundance of caution.[/quote]
Why do say that? He hasn't been cleared by trainers and doctors yet alone coaches. I agree, this is somewhat disappointing. He needs reps. It's already mid August.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1226880]Tell that to Jay Gruden, whose job is on the line.

I hear what you are saying, but Jay seems to know that it is playoffs or bust for him.[/quote]

You've reminded me of the the contradictory nature of the top Redskins executives. The idea that the HC's job should be on the line with a team that is clearly rebuilding is unfair to him and makes no sense.

Yes, I'm aware that the Skins executives always claim that they're in the race and that they expect to go to the playoffs but I don't believe them. Just one look at our QB, WR and ILB positions will tell you that we're in a rebuild. I don't have a problem with rebuilding but I do have a problem with doing it in a half-assed way.

Not extending Jay Gruden's contract and asking him to make the playoffs under the pressure of possibly losing his job is a disincentive to his playing the younger players to get them ready for years of legitimate future playoff runs.

Wouldn't it be nice to hear some truth from Redskins executives and to see them provide a clear-cut direction for a HC who is not a perpetual lame duck?

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Agree that Gruden's job should not be on the line with a true rebuild, regardless of how long he's been there. That's why I don't wanna see Haskins out there prematurely (especially if he's not ready), if Gruden flat out feels he can't win with Colt/Case. Just don't want to see Haskins' growth/progression take a hit unnecessarily.

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The FO will never go into or admit full rebuild. According to Bruce "we're close." To what? 9-7? Look what happened when you played what should have been a SB team. Brees had his family on the sidelines celebrating records. Bruce has to be the dumbest executive in pro sports. Quit trying to BS the fans. Look at your stadium on Sundays. Own that, instead of dancing around it.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1226907]The FO will never go into or admit full rebuild. According to Bruce "we're close." To what? 9-7? Look what happened when you played what should have been a SB team. Brees had his family on the sidelines celebrating records. Bruce has to be the dumbest executive in pro sports. Quit trying to BS the fans. Look at your stadium on Sundays. Own that, instead of dancing around it.[/quote]Attendance should be interesting this year with it declining in 2018. Think it will be very telling for overall fan interest.

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Just read this great article about Kerrigan and how committed he is to maintaining his body for football.. Perhaps there is not much else Redskins can do to prevent injuries, only players themselves need to put in the work and commit to body maintenance on their own? Kerrigan gave a great example - "If you are out here working your ass off in training camp and going back to the hotel and ordering burgers and fries for dinner, you are going to struggle the next few days."

[url]https://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/38815/secrets-of-a-redskins-ironman-300-ounces-of-water-colt-tubs-float-pods[/url]

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1226909]Attendance should be interesting this year with it declining in 2018. Think it will be very telling for overall fan interest.[/quote]

I fully expect it to pick up right where it left off last season, and continue to get worse. Unless they start off like 4-0 to 6-1 and somehow look really good, I think it's going to continue to decline. Some good potential players drafted aren't going to change things overnight. You still see #FIREBRUCEALLEN everywhere you look.

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[quote=Redskins247;1226932]I fully expect it to pick up right where it left off last season, and continue to get worse. Unless they start off like 4-0 to 6-1 and somehow look really good, I think it's going to continue to decline. Some good potential players drafted aren't going to change things overnight. You still see #FIREBRUCEALLEN everywhere you look.[/quote]The team may be banking on Haskins as the cure all- even for attendance. That and Gruden's make or break year have me thinking they could rush Haskins starting before he's ready. As good as Haskins is, I don't think he's enough to cure attendance woes- at least not yet.

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If this team starts out 1-3 or 1-4, Jay will be gone mid season

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1226935]If this team starts out 1-3 or 1-4, Jay will be gone mid season[/quote]

I wouldn't be surprised but, in view of the first five games on their schedule, it might be grossly unfair to fire him mid-season.

Game 1 - at Philly
Game 2 - Dallas
Game 3 - Chicago
Game 4 - at NYG
Game 5 - New England

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Dallas (Zeke may be out) is winnable
Chicago will come down to earth a little bit IMO.

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Wes Martin should start

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/8/25/20832018/film-study-getting-a-look-at-the-redskins-young-interior-offensive-linemen[/url]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1226940]I wouldn't be surprised but, in view of the first five games on their schedule, it might be grossly unfair to fire him mid-season.

Game 1 - at Philly
Game 2 - Dallas
Game 3 - Chicago
Game 4 - at NYG
Game 5 - New England[/quote]


Exactly.
Redskins will probably be Vegas morning line underdogs for 7 of the first 8 games.



Khalil Mack is going to destroy his old teammate Donald Penn wk3.

They better bring 5 QBs for that game.

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[quote=jamf;1227691]Exactly.
Redskins will probably be Vegas morning line underdogs for 7 of the first 8 games.



Khalil Mack is going to destroy his old teammate Donald Penn wk3.

They better bring 5 QBs for that game.[/quote]

The Bears defense will not be dominant as they were last year simply because Vic Fangio isn't their defense coordinator anymore, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Bears will be easy for Redskins to beat but I doubt they will dominate on defense side that is unless Gruden don't call plays that will protect Keenum.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1226940]I wouldn't be surprised but, in view of the first five games on their schedule, it might be grossly unfair to fire him mid-season.

Game 1 - at Philly
Game 2 - Dallas
Game 3 - Chicago
Game 4 - at NYG
Game 5 - New England[/quote]

First three games at home will look like road games. I think they will be 2-3 after 5.

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It will be tough, right out of the gate with 4 of the first 5 against playoff teams from last year. I don't think it will be terrible though. This team was well on it's way to probably a 10-11 win season last year before QB and other injuries derailed the season. On paper the defense looks better this year. The offense will likely be about as average as it was to begin the season last year, and improve as the season goes on. Really, injuries and whether or not the o-line can adequately protect the QB will tell the story. I can see a 2-3 start, and if things bounce their way maybe 3-2. Honestly, I'd rather have them take their lumps early on than later in the season when injuries/health will likely be more of a concern.