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[quote=skinsfan69;1319762]I still question it. Could have got a RB in the later rounds that can do the same things that BR can do. He is basically a one cut and go type of runner. Nothing fancy, he's going to move the chains but he isn't a home run hitter. He isn't special catching it out of the backfield or great in space. I just think this organization is obsessed with Bama players. It's lazy scouting imo.

I used the Shanahans as an example when it came to running backs. I would never take one in the first 3 rounds of a draft. They have had so many no name runners that got a 1,000 yards.[/quote]

You’re too dazzled by the measurables.
Give me a RB with vision.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1319823]JDR was very poised and parsimonious with his words in his first press conf since the "dust up" fine. Which is good.
He didn't take any bait regarding the issue. Had "nothing to add". Asked about his Twitter account suppression, he replied "personal choice". That was exactly what he needed to do IMO. Shut up, move on, let's talk ball.

One thing I thought was interesting was, in his reply about the firing of the previous DL coach, "I'd have to defer to Coach [...] I think he spelled that out with you guys, I have nothing to add. [...] Coach has a good sense of what he wants to do, and our job as STAFF MEMBERS is to make it come to life [...]".
I guess technically anybody underneath the Head Coach can be referred to as "coaching staff" but you don't hear a Defensive Coordinator talk about himself as a "staff member". [B]Not trying to read too much into it, but the whole thing sounded like he was actively trying to build this image that he is a mere soldier following Commander Ron's orders.[/B] I guess that's a good thing, but with what we know about Jack's personality, you can't help but wonder how long he's going to quietly enjoy this low tone Private Jack's role.

Also, when asked about what he liked about the new DL coach, coach Z, he didn't exactly sound overly excited, and the thing he kept saying was show well "the guys" were responding to him. It really felt like this was a decision the players asked for and Ron made, but not something JDR was really consulted about.

Not trying to find drama where there's maybe nothing at all. But with a lot of us feeling like it's a do or die year for Jack, his relationship with Ron is something to keep an eye on.

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This is something that I've been wondering about recently.

JDR has gone from having good to great defences everywhere he's been to having middle of the pack to poor defences while here.

Not being able to do what he wants to do would certainly be one explanation.

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JDR improved the defense in his first year here, last year was mixed results although the defense started to play better toward the end of the season. I believe this year is JDR's last chance to prove himself.

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They were a top 5 defense two years ago. Yeah they played against some backup QBs, but they were still top 5, and they looked much better than before he got there. That says something. Last year they were riddled with injuries, and devastated by COVID down the stretch. No team's depth would have overcome that.

I agree though, there has to be a significant turnaround this year - like top 15 - for him to keep his job.

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[QUOTE=davy;1319828]This is something that I've been wondering about recently.



JDR has gone from having good to great defences everywhere he's been to having middle of the pack to poor defences while here.



Not being able to do what he wants to do would certainly be one explanation.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if it's JDR not being able to do what he wants, or players not being on synch with what coaches tell them to do, or a mix of both.
But there's definitely something off, the defense has not been performing too its roster, nor coaching staff, talent level, let's see if they can fix it (and we all know winning fixes anything, including broken relationships)

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My fan impression on the outside looking in was that RR gave JDR a lot of autonomy running the D. Also got the impression that JDR philosophy going into last season was get pressure rushing 4 or 5 (since we have studs up front) and play base nickel. Which I think made a lot of sense given the roster but it just didnt work w our LB corps getting worked on 3rd and passing plays.

Perhaps JDR was bit to slow to give up on the rush 4 approach but the thought process was there imo.

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Linebacker is so important it doesn’t really matter what your scheme is. Without good linebacker play it probably will not work very well.
I think I am still stunned it wasn’t addressed but D line was, all because we let Settle walk. Cannot make sense of that still.

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I think it is personal.

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At least some of the position coaches are RR guys which must make it difficult for JDR to have any authority, it was RR choice to replace Mills so you have to wonder how much control JDR has other than in game play calling. And as for the personnel he has, it is up to RR and the FO to find the LBs, so again it is difficult to know whether JDR is just being told to work with what he is being given or whether he is OK with the players he has

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For all we know, JDR recommended that Mills go. He was never a JDR guy anyway, so that scenario makes the most sense. I think we're making too much out of a press conference where JDR rightfully referred to himself as a "staff member". That is after all, what he is - a member of the coaching staff.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1319852]For all we know, JDR recommended that Mills go. He was never a JDR guy anyway, so that scenario makes the most sense. I think we're making too much out of a press conference where JDR rightfully referred to himself as a "staff member". That is after all, what he is - a member of the coaching staff.[/quote]

Yeah like I said I don't want to read too much into it. But at the same time, let's not act like every thing has been perfect in this locker room and building.
They just fired a coached mid training camp, that doesn't happen if everything is ok.
Don't get me wrong, I think the firing of Sam Mills is a good news given the apparent disconnect with the players, but the timing screams "something happened".
Another thing that happened was the Head Coach fining his Coordinator 100k because the later couldn't stay off twitter to save his life.

I'd invite you to listen to the press conf, available on [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-379-jack-del-rio-speaks-and-much-more/id1553345193?i=1000576446423"]Galdi's pod[/URL] , maybe it's just JDR playing it tough and quiet in his first presss conf since the fine, but some parts of it, wether it be choice of words or tone, made me feel like there may be something to keep an eye on, especially in a season where it's not crazy to think JDR is in the hot seat.

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Good counter points which all come down to the fact that none of us know what is actually happening, and we may never know. If JDR is on the hot seat this season then the press conference sounded to me like a dig at the fact that he is not the one callling the shots either with personnel, coaches or scheme

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1319885]Yeah like I said I don't want to read too much into it. But at the same time, let's not act like every thing has been perfect in this locker room and building.
They just fired a coached mid training camp, that doesn't happen if everything is ok.
Don't get me wrong, I think the firing of Sam Mills is a good news given the apparent disconnect with the players, but the timing screams "something happened".
Another thing that happened was the [B]Head Coach fining his Coordinator 100k[/B] because the later couldn't stay off twitter to save his life.

I'd invite you to listen to the press conf, available on [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-379-jack-del-rio-speaks-and-much-more/id1553345193?i=1000576446423"]Galdi's pod[/URL] , maybe it's just JDR playing it tough and quiet in his first presss conf since the fine, but some parts of it, wether it be choice of words or tone, made me feel like there may be something to keep an eye on, especially in a season where it's not crazy to think JDR is in the hot seat.[/quote]

If you had a boss who claimed to be your friend and then he fined you [U]$100,000[/U] for something you posted online, how would you feel about him? Their parting of the ways seems to be just about inevitable.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1319889]If you had a boss who claimed to be your friend and then he fined you [U]$100,000[/U] for something you posted online, how would you feel about him? Their parting of the ways seems to be just about inevitable.[/quote]

To be fair it's not that simple, Jack also made some comments about the issue in a press conf (infamous "dust up" comments), and it became a national thing with a lot of reactions, and as Ron said, it impacted the organisation, so something had to be done. I think Jack's comments were pretty stupid, considering he's the DC of an NFL team. But it's still fair to question the impact it had on their relationship, and where their relationship was in the first place.

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1319890]To be fair it's not that simple, Jack also made some comments about the issue in a press conf (infamous "dust up" comments), and it became a national thing with a lot of reactions, and as Ron said, it impacted the organisation, so something had to be done. I think Jack's comments were pretty stupid, considering he's the DC of an NFL team. But it's still fair to question the impact it had on their relationship, and where their relationship was in the first place.[/quote]

Yes, but did it need to be a [B][COLOR="Red"]$100,000[/COLOR][/B] fine?

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1319893]Yes, but did it need to be a [B][COLOR="Red"]$100,000[/COLOR][/B] fine?[/QUOTE]Honestly? I have no clue. We'd have to compare with other fines in comparable situations.
My only thought is what it says about, and how it impacts, their relationship. Maybe not much, maybe a lot. Maybe they have a great season, which helps all parties move on, maybe the defense struggles again and Ron has had enough. Wait and see but keep and eye on it is my overall point.

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[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FamarjrX0AAX3s4?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Come to the worst stadium in the league and spend, by a wide margin, the highest beer prices in the nfl

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[quote=Chico23231;1319998][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FamarjrX0AAX3s4?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Come to the worst stadium in the league and spend, by a wide margin, the highest beer prices in the nfl[/quote]

Lowest attendance in the league, make up for the money gap by charging $14 for a small beer and probably $10 for a plain burger.

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You would think they would be ashamed of this, but shame is the one thing Danny doesn't have. Next time Jason appears in front of the press they should ask him directly if he is embarrassed by this.

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[quote=Chico23231;1319998][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FamarjrX0AAX3s4?format=jpg&name=small[/IMG]

Come to the worst stadium in the league and spend, by a wide margin, the highest beer prices in the nfl[/quote]

I hope you're not insinuating that Dan Snyder is to blame. Let me tell [U]you[/U] something; a huge estate on the banks of the Potomac and a mega yacht with an IMAX theatre onboard aren't cheap, so he [U]had[/U] to charge more for beer.

Instead of complaining about beer prices, just enjoy your beer at the stadium and be glad you can help out a needy NFL owner who has extraordinarily high personal expenses. It's sort of like supporting a charity.

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Regarding the beer situation, don't go. We as the consumer have options. We can stay home and buy a 6 pack of the beer of our choice for $10.

I have long stopped going to games. I can go for free and sit in a box through work. I just can't deal w/ it anymore. Way too many drunk losers who don't know how to act.

I can't wait for week one. I want to see that stadium w/ 60% Jags fans to give Snyder a big F you. That is the only real way to embarrass him at this point. Don't go and nationally embarrass him.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1320002]I hope you're not insinuating that Dan Snyder is to blame. Let me tell [U]you[/U] something; a huge estate on the banks of the Potomac and a mega yacht with an IMAX theatre onboard aren't cheap, so he [U]had[/U] to charge more for beer.

Instead of complaining about beer prices, just enjoy your beer at the stadium and be glad you can help out a needy NFL owner who has extraordinarily high personal expenses. It's sort of like supporting a charity.[/quote]

:food-smil

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1320003]Regarding the beer situation, don't go. We as the consumer have options. We can stay home and buy a 6 pack of the beer of our choice for $10.

I have long stopped going to games. I can go for free and sit in a box through work. I just can't deal w/ it anymore. Way too many drunk losers who don't know how to act.

I can't wait for week one. I want to see that stadium w/ 60% Jags fans to give Snyder a big F you. That is the only real way to embarrass him at this point. Don't go and nationally embarrass him.[/QUOTE]


My experience at games has been awesome other than the one game at FedEx. I’ve probably been to 10 different cities for games and The 1 time I went to a home game it was straight ass. I’ll never go back to FedEx


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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1320002]I hope you're not insinuating that Dan Snyder is to blame. Let me tell [U]you[/U] something; a huge estate on the banks of the Potomac and a mega yacht with an IMAX theatre onboard aren't cheap, so he [U]had[/U] to charge more for beer.

Instead of complaining about beer prices, just enjoy your beer at the stadium and be glad you can help out a needy NFL owner who has extraordinarily high personal expenses. It's sort of like supporting a charity.[/quote]

This is why I like you KI - we ride the same wave.

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Commanders claimed TE Kendall Blanton off waivers from the Rams.

Blanton started in the Super Bowl in February, and nearly seven months later is looking to settle as solid depth on the Commanders. With Logan Thomas still on PUP and three rookies on the current depth chart, two of whom weren't drafted, it seems plausible that Blanton can make the Commanders 53-man roster.

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Thomas is activated from PUP. I'm kinda surprised by this move since the injury happened in late winter time, I hope they are not rushing Thomas.

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[quote=GridIron26;1320030]Thomas is activated from PUP. I'm kinda surprised by this move since the injury happened in late winter time, I hope they are not rushing Thomas.[/quote]

I think Thomas' injury wasn't as bad as let say Chase Young's injury.

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Speaking of Logan being back…anyone see the cut block on KT last night? Reminded me of the one that injured Thomas knee:

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-rookie-kayvon-thibodeaux-is-good-after-knee-injury-vs-bengals-030625285.html[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1320037]Speaking of Logan being back…anyone see the cut block on KT last night? Reminded me of the one that injured Thomas knee:

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-rookie-kayvon-thibodeaux-is-good-after-knee-injury-vs-bengals-030625285.html[/url][/quote]

A lot like it but closer to the play.

Cut blocks need to go. Yeah, theyre useful and usually not endangering player safety on those 4th and inch QB sneak plays or goal line dives .. but when its done in space like this, it should be illegal. Not sure how you would word it.

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In an effort to increase player safety, NFL owners approved a change to the league's low block rule.

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported the league has given the thumbs up on a proposal first brought by the competition committee that expands prohibition against blocking below the waist. The approved proposal illegalizes blocking below the waist by offensive and defensive players on scrimmage downs when contact occurs beyond five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage and more than two yards outside of either offensive tackle.

The league had previously outlawed blocks below the waist by players of either team after a change of possession or during kicks. This update expands the rule to scrimmage downs, leaving the aforementioned rectangle of pre-snap space as the last real estate in which blocks below the waist are permitted.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-expanded-rule-on-low-blocks-90-man-rosters-to-start-training-[/url]

from 2021 ..

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[quote=Chico23231;1320037]Speaking of Logan being back…anyone see the cut block on KT last night? Reminded me of the one that injured Thomas knee:

[url]https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-rookie-kayvon-thibodeaux-is-good-after-knee-injury-vs-bengals-030625285.html[/url][/quote]

Damn, that was an ugly block. NFL definitely needs to do something about this kind of block.

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[quote=SunnySide;1320038]A lot like it but closer to the play.

Cut blocks need to go. Yeah, theyre useful and usually not endangering player safety on those 4th and inch QB sneak plays or goal line dives .. but when its done in space like this, it should be illegal. Not sure how you would word it.

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In an effort to increase player safety, NFL owners approved a change to the league's low block rule.

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported the league has given the thumbs up on a proposal first brought by the competition committee that expands prohibition against blocking below the waist. The approved proposal illegalizes blocking below the waist by offensive and defensive players on scrimmage downs when contact occurs beyond five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage and more than two yards outside of either offensive tackle.

The league had previously outlawed blocks below the waist by players of either team after a change of possession or during kicks. This update expands the rule to scrimmage downs, leaving the aforementioned rectangle of pre-snap space as the last real estate in which blocks below the waist are permitted.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-expanded-rule-on-low-blocks-90-man-rosters-to-start-training-[/url]

from 2021 ..[/quote]

This is from 2021 and they haven't been banned yet?

Honestly they should've been banned for years - guys are having years taken off their careers when they blow out their knee from these blocks.

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[quote=SunnySide;1320038]A lot like it but closer to the play.

Cut blocks need to go. Yeah, theyre useful and usually not endangering player safety on those 4th and inch QB sneak plays or goal line dives .. but when its done in space like this, it should be illegal. Not sure how you would word it.

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In an effort to increase player safety, NFL owners approved a change to the league's low block rule.

NFL Network's Tom Pelissero reported the league has given the thumbs up on a proposal first brought by the competition committee that expands prohibition against blocking below the waist. The approved proposal illegalizes blocking below the waist by offensive and defensive players on scrimmage downs when contact occurs beyond five yards on either side of the line of scrimmage and more than two yards outside of either offensive tackle.

The league had previously outlawed blocks below the waist by players of either team after a change of possession or during kicks. This update expands the rule to scrimmage downs, leaving the aforementioned rectangle of pre-snap space as the last real estate in which blocks below the waist are permitted.

[url]https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-expanded-rule-on-low-blocks-90-man-rosters-to-start-training-[/url]

from 2021 ..[/quote]

This particular block is hard to get rid off IMO. It's behind the LoS and in the tackle box... unless you ban them all together I don't see how you get rid of it.
They could add that no block can be initiated at or below the knee I guess ?

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RG3 is so annoying. Ugh...

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[quote=FrenchSkin;1320049]This particular block is hard to get rid off IMO. It's behind the LoS and in the tackle box... unless you ban them all together I don't see how you get rid of it.
They could add that no block can be initiated at or below the knee I guess ?[/quote]

I think the league will eventually ban this type of isolated cut block but the wording will be difficult bc teams would want to be able to dive low on goal line and sneaks.

You see this type of block and injury happening when a RB/TE cut block a pursuer on the back end.

Id say only the 5 down lineman and D lineman can do it ... this is where universal numbers by position would help. Only guys wearing 50-79 etc

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The Commanders placed Gerry (undisclosed) on injured reserve Tuesday.

Gerry signed a contract with Washington at the beginning of August, but barring an injury settlement, he'll be forced to miss the entire 2022 campaign due to an undisclosed injury. The 2017 fifth-round pick hasn't played since 2020.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/commanders-nate-gerry-lands-on-ir/[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1320093]The Commanders placed Gerry (undisclosed) on injured reserve Tuesday.

Gerry signed a contract with Washington at the beginning of August, but barring an injury settlement, he'll be forced to miss the entire 2022 campaign due to an undisclosed injury. The 2017 fifth-round pick hasn't played since 2020.

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/commanders-nate-gerry-lands-on-ir/[/url][/quote]

That sure sucks... Maybe it'll force em to make another signing at LB ?

On the injury front, Al Galdi confirmed on his [URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-383-commanders-activate-logan-thomas-insight/id1553345193?i=1000577038467"]pod[/URL] that we have no words on what [I]Andrew Norwell[/I] is out. Rivera flat out said in press conf, responding to Ben Standig asking about Norwell "See I don't have to give you an injury report, so I'm just telling you it's guys taking care of themselves [...] I know, I don't have to tell you that". That was kinda hilarious.

Oh, and we were so doom and gloom last week end that we forgot to comment on one very good news: [I]Chase Roullier being back![/I] He started and played well last week ! He'll need Norwell and Schweitzer/Turner to be back from injury at his side, cuz Aaron Monteiro and Saahdiq Charles ain't doing it, but that's a rare very good news.

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Re-went through our 1st stringers snaps of our 2 preseason games, and if I have to be honest, our LBs didn't play nearly as bad as I thought. Both Davis and Holcomb made some very good plays against the run, and covered decently most of the time, of course against KC's TEs and Mahomes buying time they got exposed a couple time, but who in the league wouldn't be?

The issue really seems to be our secondary, they're not on synch, and get toasted.

The DL played really well in the first game, and while obviously not producing enough against Mahomes, it's not like they weren't getting any pressure either.

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I agree, if I had to pick a unit (starters) I'd say the secondary didn't play as well. They got straight up burnt a couple times, and also fell victim to Mahomes buying time like he does so well. No one really stands out to me as having made a play...except Fuller when he saved a TD - batting the ball away in the end zone.

That Fortson dude had a couple TDs, but on that first one he definitely moved Fuller off him to get enough space for the catch, and I don't think Curl could have covered him any tighter for the second one.

I think they'll have a better game plan in the regular season for those QBs that scramble / buy time.

Like you eluded to though, vs Mahomes and Company - most teams are going to give up yardage and points.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1320107]I agree, if I had to pick a unit (starters) I'd say the secondary didn't play as well. They got straight up burnt a couple times, and also fell victim to Mahomes buying time like he does so well. No one really stands out to me as having made a play...except Fuller when he saved a TD - batting the ball away in the end zone.

That Fortson dude had a couple TDs, but on that first one he definitely moved Fuller off him to get enough space for the catch, and I don't think Curl could have covered him any tighter for the second one.

I think they'll have a better game plan in the regular season for those QBs that scramble / buy time.

Like you eluded to though, vs Mahomes and Company - most teams are going to give up yardage and points.[/quote]

Secondary still looks like they are thinking…I don’t like how off they play

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We brought back Wes Martin after he was waived by Jags.. I'm surprised we decided to bring Martin back, instead of Flowers. I think Flowers is better than Martin...