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[quote=Redskin Warrior;674997]Joey Porter to visit Redskin Park on Thursday reported by JLC no link yet[/quote]

By Schefter as well:
Adam_Schefter

Former Dolphins linebacker Joey Porter, who visited the Cardinals last week, is scheduled to visit the Washington Redskins on Thursday.

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Porter has said he'd like to play for the Cardinals because of Whisenhunt and Grimm who coached him in Pittsburgh, so he may ask for more than we're willing to give.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;674997]Joey Porter to visit Redskin Park on Thursday reported by JLC no link yet[/quote]

solid player, didnt play so hot last year. he could blow up in the right scheme... i dont know enough about him and the 3-4 to say if that place is washington dc.

anyone got any thoughts?

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[quote=budw38;675005]Too bad ... damn good football player .... the freakin dirty birds (:[/quote]

I know. I hate Philly almost as much as the Cowgirls..........almost.

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Link to Porter:

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/3-4-defense/joey-porter-coming-to-redskins.html]Redskins Insider - Joey Porter coming to Redskins Park[/url]

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[quote=53Fan;675011]I know. I hate Philly almost as much as the Cowgirls..........almost.[/quote]
At least we get to watch both of them end their seasons by choking every year !

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porter has 32 sacks in his last 3 seasons. thats nice. the not nice part is that he is 32. we shall see.

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I'm sure people are going to shit on Porter, but I'd take him if we get him for nothing a la the Larry Johnson signing. As I said before, I think we need a LB with 3-4 experience on our roster. I'd take Porter as a stop-gap until Alexander and Jarmon get up to speed as 3-4 LBs.

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I like this move, because he knows this defense, our other OLB position is shaky, he's a fiery guy, we no longer have levi jones, he knows lou spanos, he maybe able to come here cheaply, and he can still rush the QB.


[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE]YouTube - Levi Jones vs Joey Porter[/url]

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I like Porter on a one year deal, although OLB really isn't a position of need.

It seems like his position in the defense would be as a backup for Orakpo, but we could probably work some sort of rotation out that lets them both play at the same time.

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Poor Okung, he keeps getting further and further away from Washington.

Apparently the signing of Sean Jones means the Buc's can afford to pass on Berry:
[quote]If the St. Louis Rams change what has become their anticipated course and take Ndamukong Suh over Sam Bradford, the Detroit Lions are expected to take Gerald McCoy. [B]That leaves the Bucs with a lot of good options, including any OT they'd want,[/B] WR Dez Bryant, or S Eric Berry. But with Jones in the mix, they now have the luxury of entertaining some trade offers, as teams like the Bills and Browns might want to trade up to jump the Redskins for Bradford. Of course, if the Rams stick with the plan to take Bradford, the Lions will almost undoubtedly take Suh, leaving the Bucs with McCoy.[/quote]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;674972][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816fc80c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Eagles send DE Clemons, fourth-round pick to Seattle for DE Tapp[/url][/quote]

Like I said...trade winds are blowing. Hasn't hit Redskin Park yet, but it will soon.

The Porter news is a bit of a surprise but if Carter and McIntosh are both gone it won't hurt to have a veteran LB familiar with the 3-4 here. I hadn't heard anything about JP visiting until last night so I don't know how serious this visit is

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[quote=Buster;674930]We can trade Landry AND his monkey for 2 picks.[/quote]

maybe between he and his monkey they can actually get two picks this year

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[quote=johno;675000]haha no one here believes that sims would be the starter. he would be a back up to campbell. that or 2nd to someone else who we acquire... not saying that we should.[/quote]

you're talking about the wrong guy

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[quote=Ruhskins;675018]I'm sure people are going to shit on Porter, but I'd take him if we get him for nothing a la the Larry Johnson signing. As I said before, I think we need a LB with 3-4 experience on our roster. I'd take Porter as a stop-gap until Alexander and Jarmon get up to speed as 3-4 LBs.[/quote]

We're not getting Porter for an LJ type contract

I'm not sure why people really care what we sign him at as long as it's not utterly ridiculous

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[quote=SmootSmack;675041]Like I said...trade winds are blowing. Hasn't hit Redskin Park yet, but it will soon.

The Porter news is a bit of a surprise but [B]if[/B] Carter and McIntosh are both gone it won't hurt to have a veteran LB familiar with the 3-4 here. I hadn't heard anything about JP visiting until last night so I don't know how serious this visit is[/quote]
has that if gotten any bigger in the past couple days?

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Porter is a great rush LB

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[quote=Mattyk;675057]Porter is a great rush LB[/quote]

tacos are yummy

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Please don't sign Joey Porter, that dude does not belong in DC. I know he's got something left, but he might disrupt what little chemistry that's left on D.

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He could be doing like several other players have.. coming here, milking a tad more out of a previous offer.

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[quote=freddyg12;675063]Please don't sign Joey Porter, that dude does not belong in DC. I know he's got something left, but [B]he might disrupt what little chemistry that's left on D[/B].[/quote]

i dont see that happening under london fletcher's watch.

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[quote=johno;675066]i dont see that happening under [B]london fletcher[/B]'s watch.[/quote]

psht isn't he gonna be 35 come season start?

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[quote=johno;675066]i dont see that happening under london fletcher's watch.[/quote]

I really don't see it happening under Shanahan's watch. I think Marty is the last coach we had who will have as much authoritarian discipline as Shanahan will bring. Gibbs was much more of a motivator with a touch of disciplinarian. Shanahan isn't going to fool around and if you can't get along, I imagine there will be a bus headed out of town with your name on it.

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I think Porter is trying to use the Redskins to get more money out of Arizona, which is where he would rather go

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[quote=SmootSmack;675072]I think Porter is trying to use the Redskins to get more money out of Arizona, which is where he would rather go[/quote]

Deja vu.

I think you're right. Here's some support for your theory:
[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=653"][quote][/URL]
[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=653"]Joey Porter[/URL]

[IMG]http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.rotoworld.com/images/pixel.gif[/IMG]The Redskins will host free agent Joey Porter on Thursday.

Porter's preference is to return home to the west coast, but he needs another team interested so the Cardinals aren't bidding against themselves. The Redskins are moving to a 3-4 defense, so Porter fits from a pure scheme standpoint.[/quote]

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[quote=SmootSmack;675072]I think Porter is trying to use the Redskins to get more money out of Arizona, which is where he would rather go[/quote]

Has he not been watching our FO this off-season?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;675068]I really don't see it happening under Shanahan's watch. I think Marty is the last coach we had who will have as much authoritarian discipline as Shanahan will bring. Gibbs was much more of a motivator with a touch of disciplinarian. Shanahan isn't going to fool around and if you can't get along, I imagine there will be a bus headed out of town with your name on it.[/quote]

fair enough, fletch is the man all the same. its nice knowing there are finally adults behind the wheel of this franchise.

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[quote=Longtimefan;674979]I've said before, Allen has a thing for older players. I know we need O-line help but Sims is as old as dirt. We need to get younger.[/quote]

Well, we don't have enough draft picks to replace the entire line this year and add a RB, LB, secondary help and another backup QB.

A lot of the guys being added so far are for depth only, except Larry Johnson possibly, who could have a decent-sized role.

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[quote=freddyg12;675063]Please don't sign Joey Porter, that dude does not belong in DC. I know he's got something left, but he might disrupt what little chemistry that's left on D.[/quote]

Umm, what chemistry? Rogers getting whiffed on? Landry out of position? I know it's the back field but what news do you have that speaks of Porter being someone similar to a T.O.? Honestly I'm kinda glad we are looking at players for their talent for a change vs. being the moral majority or character police, but I'm interested in how Porter is a locker room cancer since you brought it up?

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[quote=Buster;675086]Well, we don't have enough draft picks to replace the entire line this year and add a RB, LB, secondary help and another backup QB.

A lot of the guys being added so far are for depth only, except Larry Johnson possibly, who could have a decent-sized role.[/quote]

Perhaps we can look for Hicks, Johnson and Kemo, once his health returns, to all have prominent roles (if not starters) once the season begins. Granted we definately need more depth on the O-line and we don't have enough DP to fulfill all of our needs. I'd like to see younger players being sought, however it could be that older vets are all that's available for what the team intends to invest.

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[quote=Lotus;674925]How is that different from what I said?[/quote]

Sorry, i must have misread your post. I thought you said Moss for a 3rd and a 7th.

Anyway, what are the chances we trade Jarmon? He could certainly get us a 3rd round pick (although probably not one nearly as high as the one we gave up for him) and he really doesnt seem to be a good fit for a 3-4.

How about: Jarmon and Moss to Tampa Bay for their second 2nd round pick (42nd overall)?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;675153]Sorry, i must have misread your post. I thought you said Moss for a 3rd and a 7th.

Anyway, what are the chances we trade Jarmon? He could certainly get us a 3rd round pick (although probably not one nearly as high as the one we gave up for him) and he really doesnt seem to be a good fit for a 3-4.

How about: Jarmon and Moss to Tampa Bay for their second 2nd round pick (42nd overall)?[/quote]

Well if you were reading the mock draft thread, you would have seen the SF-Was deal that suggested including Jarmon along with picks. There was a small discussion on it ;)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;675166]Well if you were reading the mock draft thread, you would have seen the SF-Was deal that suggested including Jarmon along with picks. There was a small discussion on it ;)[/quote]

thats actually what sparked my idea here. we should definitely move him, IMO. Since smoot suggested Tampa Bay wanted Moss for a 4th (while we want a 3rd), i figured maybe we couuld package the two together. I think the 42nd overall pick might be a bit high, though. perhaps they'd do the deal for their 3rd and 4th round picks.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;675176]thats actually what sparked my idea here. we should definitely move him, IMO. Since smoot suggested Tampa Bay wanted Moss for a 4th (while we want a 3rd), i figured maybe we couuld package the two together. [B]I think the 42nd overall pick might be a bit high, though.[/B] perhaps they'd do the deal for their 3rd and 4th round picks.[/quote]

For two players, one a starting WR, one a promising, very young DE? I'd think Tampa might spring the #42 pick for that.

It is distressing about Jarmon. We got a very good young player and then changed the scheme, making him likely irrelevant. Maybe he'll make a better 3-4 LB than I project but I am dubious.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;675176]thats actually what sparked my idea here. we should definitely move him, IMO. Since smoot suggested Tampa Bay wanted Moss for a 4th (while we want a 3rd), i figured maybe we couuld package the two together. I think the 42nd overall pick might be a bit high, though. perhaps they'd do the deal for their 3rd and 4th round picks.[/quote]

I think maybe my post wasn't clear. So to recap, Bucs want a receiver, Redskins want a 3rd round pick, Redskins willing to trade Moss for a 3rd, Bucs not interested in Moss for a 3rd. Redskins not really willing (not yet) to part with Moss for a 4th. Tampa possibly interested in Moss if the most they have to trade is a 4th. But they don't really want Moss. I think they'll exhaust all other options first.

There have been rumors of the Broncos and Bucs talking Brandon Marshall, but I think a more likely scenario (if Bradford is available) is someone like the Browns moving up to the Bucs spot and the Bucs dropping down and taking Dez Bryant

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[quote=SmootSmack;675263]I think maybe my post wasn't clear. So to recap, Bucs want a receiver, Redskins want a 3rd round pick, Redskins willing to trade Moss for a 3rd, Bucs not interested in Moss for a 3rd. Redskins not really willing (not yet) to part with Moss for a 4th. Tampa possibly interested in Moss if the most they have to trade is a 4th. But they don't really want Moss. I think they'll exhaust all other options first.

There have been rumors of the Broncos and Bucs talking Brandon Marshall, but I think a more likely scenario (if Bradford is available) is someone like the Browns moving up to the Bucs spot and the Bucs dropping down and taking Dez Bryant[/quote]

curses. so, who else can we ship Carter, Jarmon (and perhaps Moss) to?

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Lots of options, though I'd imagine we're not trading Jarmon

In other news, Dolphins sign Richie Incognito and Bills sign Dwan Edwards

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do you think Jarmon is really a good fit at OLB?

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Cardinals about to sign Derek Anderson

Probably means Whitehurst will go to Seattle for a 4th...unless...

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;675291]do you think Jarmon is really a good fit at OLB?[/quote]

Eh, I don't know really.