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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1227786]I think people are underselling Flowers. Watch the 1's, and Flowers specifically, on power runs to the left, he opened the lane for AP and Guice's biggest runs. We will have to help the left side in passing but you pull Scherf around and Guice and AP are going to be explosive.

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this... he's been a bit of a road grader on some of the runs. However, he's going to have plays that are so bad that you wonder why is he playing in the first place, like the play on the goaline last week.

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[quote=Chico23231;1227787]So I’ve heard his name a couple times, Keim saying he could make the roster:

“Jay Gruden said of WR Steven Sims: “electric. Has the speed to separate... has a ways to go as far as getting ready to play. I love the prospect of getting the ball in his hands.” He has a definite shot to make this roster. ...”

So 2 Sims at WR?[/quote]

I think he should be in the slot and we may see him there cause there is no way that Quinn will stay on the field.

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[quote=Chico23231;1227772]Gruden named flowers the starter at LG

Fuck this team[/quote]

R.I.P., Case.

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I would really be on the hunt for guards and tackles during cuts. Also if a stud is cut at ILB, I’d probably would grabbed him.

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I'm shocked that not only did Flowers make the team but he's actually going to be starting. Flowers and 36 year old Penn. This is going to be a shit show on obvious passing downs.

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I see beat up qbs in our future... Again *sigh* wtf

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I think we'll finally be able to answer the age-old question, is having a road grader run blocker worth having a traffic cone pass blocker.

I suspect the answer is no.

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[quote=mooby;1227805]I think we'll finally be able to answer the age-old question, is having a road grader run blocker worth having a traffic cone pass blocker.

I suspect the answer is no.[/quote]

I bet Martin comes in on 3rd and long passing situations. Which of course would be very Gruden-esque in tipping our play calls. But on 1st and 2nd, we ought to be using a ton of play action in order to take advantage of what should be a highly effective run game.

Also, I don't think this line will be worse than Minnesota's 2017 line, and Keenum was adept at making something out of nothing. Yes our WR's have to step up, but the fact they look to be moving on from Doctson gives me hope that the newbies will be what they look to be.

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I hate Flowers but if the plan is to be a run heavy team than I guess I can see where this makes sense. Just hope Martin will be ready to go sooner rather than later.

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Keim wrote:
"Inside linebacker Jon Bostic wasn't signed until June and will be playing for his fifth NFL team, but earned a starting job rather quickly. He'll also call plays. One reason: preparation. Bostic said he watched the last two years of Redskins games "multiple times" so he could see how opposing coordinators attacked them. He wanted to find the weaknesses in the defense so he could anticipate a coordinator's moves. Bostic asked one rookie he didn't want to name if he had watched last year's games. He was told no; he explained to the rookie why it was important; the rookie watched the games. "It's kind of weird," Bostic said. "When I go to the house that's the stuff I do when I'm bored. I watch football. Coordinators tendencies don't change regardless of what stop they're at."

The more I learn about Bostic, the more I like him. I wonder why he bounced around in the NFL since last few years and I remember he played well with Steelers last year. I'm glad Bostic is more than a stopgap player, this definitely will benefit our rookie defense players in long run.

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I think that mistakes by Flowers will force them to bring in Martin. Sooner rather than later. He’s the future.

You know if we had made some kind of monster trade with Houston, we could have fixed the OL with one draft.

I’m more worried about the Penn / Christian tandem than Flowers / Martin.


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[url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/02/jay-gruden-running-game-will-go-through-derrius-guice/[/url]

Exactly how the offense should run...getting excited!

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[quote=GridIron26;1227818]Keim wrote:
"Inside linebacker Jon Bostic wasn't signed until June and will be playing for his fifth NFL team, but earned a starting job rather quickly. He'll also call plays. One reason: preparation. Bostic said he watched the last two years of Redskins games "multiple times" so he could see how opposing coordinators attacked them. He wanted to find the weaknesses in the defense so he could anticipate a coordinator's moves. Bostic asked one rookie he didn't want to name if he had watched last year's games. He was told no; he explained to the rookie why it was important; the rookie watched the games. "It's kind of weird," Bostic said. "When I go to the house that's the stuff I do when I'm bored. I watch football. Coordinators tendencies don't change regardless of what stop they're at."

The more I learn about Bostic, the more I like him. I wonder why he bounced around in the NFL since last few years and I remember he played well with Steelers last year. I'm glad Bostic is more than a stopgap player, this definitely will benefit our rookie defense players in long run.[/quote]

We haven't heard anything except fantastic quotes about Bostic since we signed him.

All these hype tidbits are great, but the reality is he's been a journeyman the last few years. For all these articles we've read praising his prep, he still has to prove it on the field. We'll know shortly enough if there's a reason he's bounced around.

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[quote=Chico23231;1228231][url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/02/jay-gruden-running-game-will-go-through-derrius-guice/[/url]

Exactly how the offense should run...getting excited![/quote]

I wonder how AP will handle this. It didn't go well when he was in New Orleans. But glad Gruden's giving Guice the nod.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1228240]I wonder how AP will handle this. It didn't go well when he was in New Orleans. But glad Gruden's giving Guice the nod.[/quote]

I would give Guice and CT touches in the first half...work in AP the second half as the fresh, punishing back

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[quote=skinsfan69;1228240]I wonder how AP will handle this. It didn't go well when he was in New Orleans. But glad Gruden's giving Guice the nod.[/quote]

I am shocked to hear Guice will be starting over AP,I am happy to admit I was dead wrong about that one.Yes will be interesting to see how AP handles this

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[quote=htownskinfan;1228242]I am shocked to hear Guice will be starting over AP,I am happy to admit I was dead wrong about that one.Yes will be interesting to see how AP handles this[/quote]

Samaje, Doctson both cut.

Guice starting over Peterson.

Are the football people making football decisions now? Dare to dream.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1228243]Samaje, Doctson both cut.

Guice starting over Peterson.

Are the football people making football decisions now? Dare to dream.[/quote]

No shit...I think Jay is finally having less say in the personal decisions. Man, the Smallwood pick up is great insurance too for ct and Guice. The RB position is really strong.

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[quote=htownskinfan;1228242]I am shocked to hear Guice will be starting over AP,I am happy to admit I was dead wrong about that one.Yes will be interesting to see how AP handles this[/quote]

Told u :).

But no I feel like AD will get a ton of touches. I Pray Guice is our Todd Gurley

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Nobody should be shocked Guice is starting

AP knew he was being signed to come back as the backup

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[quote=MTK;1228256]Nobody should be shocked Guice is starting

AP knew he was being signed to come back as the backup

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I don't see how anyone could be shocked by it

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So the Junkies this am were saying that their source mentioned that when the Redskins were talking about cuts, AP's named was mentioned. There were some in the room, including Gruden, that wanted to move on from AP cause they feel he's going to be a distraction. Not really sure how credible that is but I found it interesting.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1228267]So the Junkies this am were saying that their source mentioned that when the Redskins were talking about cuts, AP's named was mentioned. There were some in the room, including Gruden, that wanted to move on from AP cause they feel he's going to be a distraction. Not really sure how credible that is but I found it interesting.[/quote]

I heard that too...but that would just have so stupid. Guice and CT...both injury prone. AP played well behind a shit Oline last year. No brainer you have him as a solid depth runner

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[quote=skinsfan69;1228267]So the Junkies this am were saying that their source mentioned that when the Redskins were talking about cuts, AP's named was mentioned. There were some in the room, including Gruden, that wanted to move on from AP cause they feel he's going to be a distraction. Not really sure how credible that is but I found it interesting.[/quote]

and do what? keep Perine? Thats a laugh.

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[quote=Meks;1228275]and do what? keep Perine? Thats a laugh.[/quote]

I think if Love was ready to come off they cut AP, but Perrine, no thank goodness

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[quote=skinsfan69;1228267]So the Junkies this am were saying that their source mentioned that when the Redskins were talking about cuts, AP's named was mentioned. There were some in the room, including Gruden, that wanted to move on from AP cause they feel he's going to be a distraction. Not really sure how credible that is but I found it interesting.[/quote]


The team980 was also reporting this.
Doc Walker was asking why the Grudens (Jay and Jon) have trouble with elite talent like AP, Amari Cooper and Khalil Mack.

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[quote=Meks;1228275]and do what? keep Perine? Thats a laugh.[/quote]

Yeah that wouldn't have made any sense.

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[url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-jay-gruden-wanted-to-cut-adrian-peterson-was-overruled/ar-AAGKs8C?ocid=ientp[/url]

Idk why we can't keep this shit in house. You never hear about Bill B. wanting to cut a player but being overruled.

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[quote=mooby;1228292][url]http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/report-jay-gruden-wanted-to-cut-adrian-peterson-was-overruled/ar-AAGKs8C?ocid=ientp[/url]

Idk why we can't keep this shit in house. You never hear about Bill B. wanting to cut a player but being overruled.[/quote]

Because you have people like the Junkies who are TMZ-like in their reporting. These are the same guys that misreported that Jay was not aware of free agent signings.

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Per [URL="https://twitter.com/john_keim/status/1169296226816274433"]Keim[/URL], [URL="https://twitter.com/CraigHoffman/status/1169296420647657473"]Hoffman[/URL], and others, Jordan Reed is at practice today.

I read somewhere that as part of the concussion protocol, he has to practice once before being clear. Hopefully he has no setbacks and is ready for Sunday.

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This report may be a way for Jay Gruden to tell AP to cool it when he only gets 30–40 % of the touches. AP is in a good situation in Washington, with a run-centered offense. Guice was injured last year and if it happens again, AP could easily be back on top. Jay Gruden is fighting for his job and probably doesn’t want to get yelled at by Adrian because he wants to run more. He should shut up and be glad he’s got a job as a RB at his age.




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