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Luxorreb 01-03-2006 04:37 AM

Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
Smoot could help us in this offseason. Guess it's too late to trade, but could he be picked up if cut by Minn? Get well soon Shawn Springs and Ade Jimoh and Carlos Rogers.

skins052bgr8 01-03-2006 07:33 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
I don't know exactly why Minnesota would let Smoot go after one season? I am sure their will be some free agent corners that come available that aren't that bad and can contribute.

dmek25 01-03-2006 07:41 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
there is a possibilty that smoot would get cut.after getting injured ,when he came back he never regained his starting job.i saw 2 vikings games and he looked horrible.not sure if he could help us now

MTK 01-03-2006 08:33 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=skins052bgr8]I don't know exactly why Minnesota would let Smoot go after one season? I am sure their will be some free agent corners that come available that aren't that bad and can contribute.[/QUOTE]

My guess is they could be looking to clean house and rid themselves of the off the field embarrassments of this year.

New coaches, new system, new direction, makes sense.

Even when healthy he wasn't playing all that well.

irish 01-03-2006 08:46 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
Maybe the skins could trade LA for smoot. At least the skins would get something for LA instead of just letting LA go on his way like they will do after this season.

skinsttw 01-03-2006 08:51 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
I don't know if want Smoot back unless he is 100% and comes at the right price. His value is lower than it was 1 year ago. He is still better than the Ade.

skins052bgr8 01-03-2006 09:57 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
All this makes sense maybe Smoot will be our Trotter and come back for a lower pay and have two pro bowl seasons. I couldn't think earlier why they would release him after paying him the big bucks, but true new management cleaning house and injuries, anything can happen in the NFL as far as trades etc... Smoot sitting home again this year for post season, I wonder if he has been on the horn with any of the skins saying damn I leave and you guys make it to the playoffs and I am home again watching.

Eriwar 01-03-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
Whats up with Darrel Green!!!! If he can still run atleast a 4.4 I say sign him up LOL!!!

#56fanatic 01-03-2006 01:00 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=irish]Maybe the skins could trade LA for smoot. At least the skins would get something for LA instead of just letting LA go on his way like they will do after this season.[/QUOTE]

Not a good trade, no body is going to trade for him with the salary he has.

irish 01-03-2006 01:15 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Not a good trade, no body is going to trade for him with the salary he has.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Not only does LA have a huge contract he has done almost nothing these last 2 years making his trade value low. I suspect LA will just be sent on his way at the end of the season with the skins getting nothing in return but freedom from his contract.

NFLeurope 01-03-2006 02:00 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
I have no idea why lavar would be cut. I have heard that we would take a bigger cap hit by cutting him then by keeping him on the roster for next year. Plus, the guy hasn't been healthy and we would be wasting a hell of alot by just cutting him loose. I would expect that we keep him for next season...now that GW is gonna be here...and then we'll see how he does if he can get healthy. I think he'll stay...and i think he will tear it up next year. The guy is a fan favorite...and he is very capable. He has just had the injury bug. Give him this offseason...hopefully he comes in healthy next year...and i think we have an elite defense with a playmaking lavr, marcus washington and lemar marshall all back next year.

On smoot...i dont think its realistic to expect he would come here. He might not clear waivers if he was cut...and even if he did...someone would offer him more money then we would be willing to...cause we would sign him as a nickel corner...and someone else would pick him up as at least a number 2 guy

MTK 01-03-2006 02:09 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=NFLeurope]I have no idea why lavar would be cut. I have heard that we would take a bigger cap hit by cutting him then by keeping him on the roster for next year. Plus, the guy hasn't been healthy and we would be wasting a hell of alot by just cutting him loose. I would expect that we keep him for next season...now that GW is gonna be here...and then we'll see how he does if he can get healthy. I think he'll stay...and i think he will tear it up next year. The guy is a fan favorite...and he is very capable. He has just had the injury bug. Give him this offseason...hopefully he comes in healthy next year...and i think we have an elite defense with a playmaking lavr, marcus washington and lemar marshall all back next year.

On smoot...i dont think its realistic to expect he would come here. He might not clear waivers if he was cut...and even if he did...someone would offer him more money then we would be willing to...cause we would sign him as a nickel corner...and someone else would pick him up as at least a number 2 guy[/QUOTE]

A couple of reasons why LaVar could end up being cut.

#1 His monster contract. He's also due a roster bonus of $6.5M this offseason. The team has already shown in the past they're not afraid of absorbing a large cap hit if it means getting rid of dead weight (Coles). Yes it will be a huge bullet to bite but when you look at the long-term impact of wiping his contract off our slate it makes more sense to do it now rather than later.

#2 The fact that this defense has succeeded without him in the lineup.

#3 His speaking out/distractions in the press don't help his cause any, no matter how insignificant they may be.

Personally I'd be shocked if he's back with the Redskins next year, both from a financial standpoint and on the field standpoint. He's grossly overpaid and the defense has gotten the job done just fine without him.

ST21 01-03-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]A couple of reasons why LaVar could end up being cut.

#1 His monster contract. He's also due a roster bonus of $6.5M this offseason. The team has already shown in the past they're not afraid of absorbing a large cap hit if it means getting rid of dead weight (Coles). Yes it will be a huge bullet to bite but when you look at the long-term impact of wiping his contract off our slate it makes more sense to do it now rather than later.

#2 The fact that this defense has succeeded without him in the lineup.

#3 His speaking out/distractions in the press don't help his cause any, no matter how insignificant they may be.

Personally I'd be shocked if he's back with the Redskins next year, both from a financial standpoint and on the field standpoint. He's grossly overpaid and the defense has gotten the job done just fine without him.[/QUOTE]

Now Lavar's overrated.........wow

irish 01-03-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]A couple of reasons why LaVar could end up being cut.

#1 His monster contract. He's also due a roster bonus of $6.5M this offseason. The team has already shown in the past they're not afraid of absorbing a large cap hit if it means getting rid of dead weight (Coles). Yes it will be a huge bullet to bite but when you look at the long-term impact of wiping his contract off our slate it makes more sense to do it now rather than later.

#2 The fact that this defense has succeeded without him in the lineup.

#3 His speaking out/distractions in the press don't help his cause any, no matter how insignificant they may be.

Personally I'd be shocked if he's back with the Redskins next year, both from a financial standpoint and on the field standpoint. He's grossly overpaid and the defense has gotten the job done just fine without him.[/QUOTE]

Matty, you have told me a million times back when I said LA should be traded (back when he was worth something) that there is no way the skins can trade him because of the cap hit. Period, end of discussion. I see now that you think the cap hit is no big deal. Also your #2 point is what I have been saying all last year. Thanks for seeing the light.

I would also add that as far as this coaching staff is concerned, LA has done absolutely nothing for them. I know he's been hurt and all but the bottom line is that LA has not done anything to make this staff take notice. I only wish the skins had traded him back when I suggested and been able to get something of value for him.

firstdown 01-03-2006 02:32 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]A couple of reasons why LaVar could end up being cut.

#1 His monster contract. He's also due a roster bonus of $6.5M this offseason. The team has already shown in the past they're not afraid of absorbing a large cap hit if it means getting rid of dead weight (Coles). Yes it will be a huge bullet to bite but when you look at the long-term impact of wiping his contract off our slate it makes more sense to do it now rather than later.

#2 The fact that this defense has succeeded without him in the lineup.

#3 His speaking out/distractions in the press don't help his cause any, no matter how insignificant they may be.

Personally I'd be shocked if he's back with the Redskins next year, both from a financial standpoint and on the field standpoint. He's grossly overpaid and the defense has gotten the job done just fine without him.[/QUOTE]Could anyone tell how much Lavar was on the field Sunday. I could only remember seeing him on one play but I have no idea how much he did play. It sucks watching the game with alot of people and half are tlking about their hair or something like that.

MTK 01-03-2006 02:34 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=irish]Matty, you have told me a million times back when I said LA should be traded (back when he was worth something) that there is no way the skins can trade him because of the cap hit. Period, end of discussion. I see now that you think the cap hit is no big deal. Also your #2 point is what I have been saying all last year. Thanks for seeing the light.

I would also add that as far as this coaching staff is concerned, LA has done absolutely nothing for them. I know he's been hurt and all but the bottom line is that LA has not done anything to make this staff take notice. I only wish the skins had traded him back when I suggested and been able to get something of value for him.[/QUOTE]

#1 I believe I held the view that his cap hit would be too much prior to the Coles situation... that changed everything.

#2 You were right, I was wrong, congrats! It isn't the first time I've been wrong and it definitely won't be the last.

Under ideal circumstances LaVar would be a great piece to this D. I have no doubt he will go elsewhere and remain a very good LB. As the saying goes, 'One man's trash is another man's treasure'.

In this case GW and company just don't have much use for an overpaid LB who by most accounts tends to freelance too much and can't keep his mouth shut in the papers.

MTK 01-03-2006 02:35 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=firstdown]Could anyone tell how much Lavar was on the field Sunday. I could only remember seeing him on one play but I have no idea how much he did play. It sucks watching the game with alot of people and half are tlking about their hair or something like that.[/QUOTE]

He started and he seemed to be out there most of the time, though I did notice he was still being pulled on 3rd downs.

irish 01-03-2006 02:37 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]#1 I believe I held the view that his cap hit would be too much prior to the Coles situation... that changed everything.

#2 You were right, I was wrong, congrats! It isn't the first time I've been wrong and it definitely won't be the last.

Under ideal circumstances LaVar would be a great piece to this D. I have no doubt he will go elsewhere and remain a very good LB. As the saying goes, 'One man's trash is another man's treasure'.

In this case GW and company just don't have much use for an overpaid LB who by most accounts tends to freelance too much and can't keep his mouth shut in the papers.[/QUOTE]

I am glad that this team now seems more concerned with how a player performs than how marketable he is. I applaud GW for sticking to his guns on LA.

firstdown 01-03-2006 02:40 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]He started and he seemed to be out there most of the time, though I did notice he was still being pulled on 3rd downs.[/QUOTE] And he still only had one tackle? Whats up with that? I thought that maybe he was only in for a couple of plays. Before the game I was thinking that he just might come out and make a statement with a big game.

hooskins 01-03-2006 02:55 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
He actually had alot of good plays though, in which he changed the direction of the play, pressed the QB, brought sacks for other people, etc. He did alot better than that one tackle, but yea I think we all know LA is not playing at 100 percent, and if he gets back at that level, he is worth every penny.

Defensewins 01-03-2006 03:02 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
I don't want Smoot back. He is too skinny and not a very good tackler. Yes he has good coverage skills, but his run support is lacking. I would rather draft another CB and develop him. A healthy Springs, Rogers and Harris can hold the position down while another rookie deveolps next year. Why overpay for Smoot when he is not a complete CB. Rogers will be a better CB next year than Smoot.

Beemnseven 01-03-2006 03:16 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
2 questions:

What is Smoot’s health status?

Are they expecting Carlos Rogers to be available at some point during the playoffs, assuming we advance deeper?

Redskins_P 01-03-2006 03:17 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven]2 questions:

What is Smoot’s health status?

Are they expecting Carlos Rogers to be available at some point during the playoffs, assuming we advance deeper?[/QUOTE]


Not sure about Smoot, but Rogers is ready to play.

MTK 01-03-2006 03:19 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
Rogers says he'll be back this week

[quote]While the Redskins await word on whether top cornerback Shawn Springs will be available for Saturday's playoff game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, rookie cornerback Carlos Rogers said yesterday he will return for Washington's first postseason contest since the 1999-2000 season.[/quote]

[quote]"I'll be ready, no doubt," Rogers said. "If it hurts, it hurts. But I'll be out there."[/quote]

Longtimefan 01-03-2006 03:19 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=wewhite3]Now Lavar's overrated.........wow[/QUOTE]


I know the topic of this thread is about Smoot possibly coming back, but since LaVar has somehow wiggled onto this thread, let me say this in regards to him being overated. I would like to see LaVar get 100% healthy first. Play a sixteen game season without distractions regardless of who he's playing for, then let his play speak for it'self.

As for Smoot, he had a chance to stay here and choose another route obviously for more money. I'm not sure they would want him back even if available. He really hasn't played that well even when he wasn't injured. Smoot has a difficult time being a physical type corner GW loves in the line-up. He also had problems with injuries his last two seasons here. I'd pass on him.

Beemnseven 01-03-2006 03:23 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Rogers says he'll be back this week[/QUOTE]

Oh man, we really need Springs to be healthy. I don't want anymore Walt Harris nightmares.

Maybe this time we'll be able to generate some pressure on Chris Simms. That should help.

MTK 01-03-2006 03:41 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Longtimefan]I would like to see LaVar get 100% healthy first. Play a sixteen game season without distractions regardless of who he's playing for, then let his play speak for it'self.[/QUOTE]

Easier said than done.

I think we would all love to see that, coaches included.

I think it's a little too late for him though.

Skinsfanmania 01-03-2006 06:34 PM

Re: Can we trade for Smoot now?
 
[QUOTE=Luxorreb]Smoot could help us in this offseason. Guess it's too late to trade, but could he be picked up if cut by Minn? Get well soon Shawn Springs and Ade Jimoh and Carlos Rogers.[/QUOTE]

No trading after mid season.


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