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We all know that we usually have the same guys come back and try to desperately make this team. Anyone think that some of them may have a chance this year. A few to mention; Rufus Brown/ CB, Jonathan Combs/ RB, Brock Forsey/ RB, Ron Warner/ DE (CFL at this moment in time), Jimmy Farris/ WR and there are several more. I would be delighted to hear some inputs on this.

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I thought Rufus Brown was gone. Christian Morton or Dimitri Patterson might step up at DB or one of those Canadian RBs they drafted, Lumsden or Carter.

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They always cut Rufus Brown but he finds a way to get into training camp.

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patterson actually had a pick in the only game he played in.i would take farris over jams thrash any day.faster and almost as good on special teams

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Richard Smith is doing ok in Europe 10 catches, 152 yards, 3 TDs after 3 games

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[quote=TAFKAS]Richard Smith is doing ok in Europe 10 catches, 152 yards, 3 TDs after 3 games[/quote]

Is He a WR or a TE? If he is a WR then he won't make this team. Too much invested in WR's

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He's a WR. And I'm thinking the same thing you are. There isn't room for him here. The guy I'm really keeping an eye on is K Tyler Jones. He could knock Hall out if he does well this summer

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Tyler Jones. HE's in NFLE right now isn't he?

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They obviously saw something in Dmitri and Christian last year as both were in games at key times late. Not so much Dmitri I guess. He mopped up against that one team I can't remember what they're called. Ft. Worth or Oak Cliff or something.
I think experience will largely win out in this camp. I think Gibbs and Williams know who their guys are at this point and it's just a matter of getting them ready to go.
Special teams will be interesting with kicker and punter.

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[QUOTE=SKINFANFOLIFE]Tyler Jones. HE's in NFLE right now isn't he?[/QUOTE]

Yup. So far he's 5/5 on PATs and 2/2 on FGs. Long of 32

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Brock Forsey cost me $500.00 bucks with a meaningless touchdown at the end of the Humanitarian Bowl vs Iowa St.

Cut his a$$!

Also that Canadian RB Lumsden should be a good ST guy and a back up FB. He isn't an NFL back, but he is a football player.

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[quote=TAFKAS]Yup. So far he's 5/5 on PATs and 2/2 on FGs. Long of 32[/quote]

Well we obviously need a kicker with some strength, so hopefully he pushes Hall. I think if he was to beat out Hall we would get a little bit of Cap relief also even though i don't think were in bad shape as of this moment.

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[QUOTE=dmek25]i would take farris over jams thrash any day.faster and almost as good on special teams[/QUOTE]
He isn't faster and Thrash has been a special teams leader two years now. Plus he is a better receiver. Farris is no better than a 5th WR in the NFL while Thrash at worst is a four.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]He's a WR. And I'm thinking the same thing you are. There isn't room for him here. The guy I'm really keeping an eye on is K Tyler Jones. He could knock Hall out if he does well this summer[/QUOTE]

That wouldn't suprise me a bit. Hall has trouble with kickoffs reaching the 15-20 yard line. Plus, his accuracy just isn't what it was when he came out of NY.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]He isn't faster and Thrash has been a special teams leader two years now. Plus he is a better receiver. Farris is no better than a 5th WR in the NFL while Thrash at worst is a four.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I don't get the love affair some people have over Jimmy Farris.

He's training camp fodder folks. The only reason he saw action last season was that the team was practically roaming the streets of D.C. for wideouts. If he makes it as a 5th wide receiver for any team this season I'll be shocked. And remember, Cliff Russell was fast too.

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[QUOTE=SKINFANFOLIFE]We all know that we usually have the same guys come back and try to desperately make this team. Anyone think that some of them may have a chance this year. A few to mention; Rufus Brown/ CB, Jonathan Combs/ RB, Brock Forsey/ RB, Ron Warner/ DE (CFL at this moment in time), Jimmy Farris/ WR and there are several more. I would be delighted to hear some inputs on this.[/QUOTE]

I thought Ron Warner was a good defensive end for rotation purposes.

Another guy who was a training camp mainstay was WR Derrius Thompson. He's one of the rare guys truly came out of nowhere and made a brief splash as a starter -- then got signed up by the Dolphins. Wonder if he's still there?

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people love the fodder cause a couple of them are going to look good playing against other teams' crap players... some people can't compare performance vs level of competition well, so those people end up holding way too high of an opinion of these crap players.

farris got on the field last year in real games and proceded to do NOTHING.

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Yeah, I would take Thrash over HIM anyway because Thrash is still WAY better on special teams than Farris.

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[quote=Beemnseven]I thought Ron Warner was a good defensive end for rotation purposes.

Another guy who was a training camp mainstay was WR Derrius Thompson. He's one of the rare guys truly came out of nowhere and made a brief splash as a starter -- then got signed up by the Dolphins. Wonder if he's still there?[/quote]

DT is still in Miami, he hasn't done jack since his "breakout" year with us in 2002. I remember people being a bit bent out of shape that we let him go too. Kinda strange that he just fell off the map, he seemed to be developing quite nicely. His stat line for 2002 was 53 catches, 773 yards and 4 scores.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]people love the fodder cause a couple of them are going to look good playing against other teams' crap players... some people can't compare performance vs level of competition well, so those people end up holding way too high of an opinion of these crap players.

farris got on the field last year in real games and proceded to do NOTHING.[/QUOTE]

I asked Huddle to use some of his super magic secret stats to demonstrate how wrong you are in this assertion.

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hopefully these guys will all have stiff competition from rookie draft picks & fa's. If our 2nd rnder turns out well & 2 of the late rnd guys make the team, I'd be happy.

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With the salary cap H@## that we've gotten ourselves into, all of the old-folks home eligible FAs, the inept coaching staff, the even more inept FO, and the lack of NFL Draft picks, we will be lucky if we are able to field a whole team of players.


Oh, my bad. That was 6 years ago!

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I heard Riddick say that Lumpdens was a fast guy and someone to keep an eye on during training camp. Does anyone have stats on Lumpdens?

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[quote=Be Tuat]I heard Riddick say that Lumpdens was a fast guy and someone to keep an eye on during training camp. Does anyone have stats on Lumpdens?[/quote]

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[quote=backrow]With the salary cap H@## that we've gotten ourselves into, all of the old-folks home eligible FAs, the inept coaching staff, the even more inept FO, and the lack of NFL Draft picks, we will be lucky if we are able to field a whole team of players.


Oh, my bad. That was 6 years ago![/quote]

I'm glad you added that last line, I was about to write up a doosy of a reply for you. :)


Let's see, scrubs...

John Hall!

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[quote=TAFKAS]He's a WR. And I'm thinking the same thing you are. There isn't room for him here. The guy I'm really keeping an eye on is K Tyler Jones. He could knock Hall out if he does well this summer[/quote]I think Gibbs would be hard pressed to let Hall go for an unproven kicker in the NFL. Hall might not have the distance he once had but he is still a very consistant kicker. If Hall could just get over his injury spell from the past two years we might even see him improve on his distance. They have changed his work out program thinking it might have been the problem. I just think you need a kicker with experence that you know will hold up under the presure of the NFL and game winning kicks.

I just looked up our kick off stats. We were in the bottom quarter for kick off distance. Miami was #1 and averaged about 6 yards longer but on average the returns were about 5 yards more against them. So if you look at all the stats we were about in the upper middle on where the other team started their drives. The only real state that jumped out at me was the Touch Backs and we only had one while Miami had 16 but that means when teams did return the kick they averaged more return yards against Miami.

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our starters play on kick coverage, maybe miami's dont?

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again lets also remember that danny smith wanted kicks HIGHER to make sure the coverage team got there.

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[QUOTE=PWNED]again lets also remember that danny smith wanted kicks HIGHER to make sure the coverage team got there.[/QUOTE]


What difference does it make how high the kicks are when by the time the coverage team gets to the returner, he's at the 15 or 20 yard line as opposed to the endzone or the 5 ?