Bears interested in Archuleta
 

[B]Bears | Archuleta an option?[/B]
Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:09:02 -0800
John Mullin, of the Chicago Tribune, reports should the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl">[COLOR=#0000ff]Washington Redskins[/COLOR] decide to part ways with S [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Adam Archuleta[/COLOR][/URL] this offseason, the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Chicago Bears[/COLOR][/URL] might express interest in the veteran safety. Last offseason, the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] outbid the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bears[/COLOR][/URL] for the services of Archuleta, who played under [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/11/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bears[/COLOR][/URL] head coach [URL="http://www.kffl.com/player/8316/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Lovie Smith[/COLOR][/URL] while Smith was still a member of the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/34/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]St. Louis Rams[/COLOR][/URL] coaching staff. A new rule allows Archuleta to hit the market at the outset of free agency and the [URL="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl"][COLOR=#0000ff]Redskins[/COLOR][/URL] will likely release him in early March.

Re: Bears interested in Archy
 

This makes total sense actually.

The Bears would only have to pay Arch's salary which is $595k and $1M the next two years. Compared to what they would have had to pay to get him last offseason, this is peanuts. And unlike the Skins, the Bears fans would probably praise their GM for this move. By waiting one year, they'll have saved the $10M in bonus money. Plus there is almost no risk since they could cut him at anytime with no deadcap penalty.

If the NFL trade deadline wasn't so damn early I really think this trade would have happened last year when Mike Brown went down. I'm not sure how much we can expect to get for the guy but I'd be happy with a water bottle at this point.

Re: Bears interested in Archy
 

There is no way the Skins take the cap hit for AA by releasing him. If the Bears want to trade though I see something being worked out.

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[quote=saden1;277179]There is no way the Skins take the cap hit for AA by releasing him. If the Bears want to trade though I see something being worked out.[/quote]
Even if we trade Archuleta to Chicago, we would still take a cap hit for the prorated amount remaining from his signing bonus. This happened when we traded Coles for Moss two years ago and took a significant cap hit ($9M I believe) that first season following the trade.

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[quote=SouperMeister;277180]Even if we trade Archuleta to Chicago, we would still take a cap hit for the prorated amount remaining from his signing bonus. This happened when we traded Coles for Moss two years ago and took a significant cap hit ($9M I believe) that first season following the trade.[/quote]If we let him go we still have the cap hit so why not try and get someone we want in a trade.

Re: Bears interested in Archy
 

Actually, if Archuleta forfeited part of his salary in exchange to be released, i'd be just as happy, because it would free up some cap space at least.

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[QUOTE=mooby;277183]Actually, if Archuleta forfeited part of his salary in exchange to be released, i'd be just as happy, because it would free up some cap space at least.[/QUOTE]

Just like Lavar did.

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Didnt the NFL pass a rule recently 'outlawing' that kind of a move? If im not mistaken it was implemented bc. of Lavar paying all that money back to us.

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I wonder if they approached AA and said give us back this amount and we will trade you to the bears, I think he would take it

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What are we likely to get in exchange for him? Probably not much because we need to unload him much worse than they need to get him. Nevertheless, something may be better than nothing. Possibly a late draft pick?

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[QUOTE=70Chip;277192]What are we likely to get in exchange for him? Probably not much because we need to unload him much worse than they need to get him. Nevertheless, something may be better than nothing. Possibly a late draft pick?[/QUOTE]

I'd be happily surprised if we got a 5th rounder and stunned if we got anything higher.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;277194]I'd be happily surprised if we got a 5th rounder and stunned if we got anything higher.[/quote]

I agree with that. It might be the best of many bad options. I'd like to keep him but what the hell do you do with a safety who has no cover skills? You can't blitz him every down. You can't make him a LB. We have to cut our losses.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;277194]I'd be happily surprised if we got a 5th rounder and stunned if we got anything higher.[/quote]

5th rounder? They won't even give us a green parking pass for him.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;277198]5th rounder? They won't even give us a green parking pass for him.[/quote]If the Bears truely want him, they'd be wise to give us some compensation. If they trade for him, they get him under his current deal with 6 years remaining and are liable for no part of his signing bonus (which we would take the remaining 6/7 of as dead cap). If he sucks there, the dead cap penalty for cutting him would be a whopping 0 for the Bears.

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[quote=skinsWill;277190]Didnt the NFL pass a rule recently 'outlawing' that kind of a move? If im not mistaken it was implemented bc. of Lavar paying all that money back to us.[/quote]


Yes. He can't give any money back. They put the new rule in after Lavar paid to get out of DC.

Re: Bears interested in Archy
 

There's a ham sandwich somewhere with Archuleta's name on it and it's headed the Redskins' way.

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heck, I'd take the slice of Kraft cheese food on that sandwich

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[quote=GTripp0012;277199]If the Bears truely want him, they'd be wise to give us some compensation. If they trade for him, they get him under his current deal with 6 years remaining and are liable for no part of his signing bonus (which we would take the remaining 6/7 of as dead cap). If he sucks there, the dead cap penalty for cutting him would be a whopping 0 for the Bears.[/quote]


I don't think that would be wise at all.

First, if the Redskins get rid of him they will flat drop him.

Second, why the hell would anyone want to touch that contract with a 10 foot pole? After the Redskins drop him, they can sign him in the neighborhood of the league minimum. Around the league, he is viewed as an injured "never was".

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[quote=firstdown;277181]If we let him go we still have the cap hit so why not try and get someone we want in a trade.[/quote]
Mike Brown for Arch???

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;277209]Mike Brown for Arch???[/quote]

We might be able to get the Mike Brown that used to run FEMA.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;277208]I don't think that would be wise at all.

First, if the Redskins get rid of him they will flat drop him.

Second, why the hell would anyone want to touch that contract with a 10 foot pole? After the Redskins drop him, they can sign him in the neighborhood of the league minimum. Around the league, he is viewed as an injured "never was".[/quote]

they'd want the contract cause the first three years ARE at vet minimum, and they wouldn't have to pay any of the signing bonus (that's ALL on he skins). so they get him cheap for two years and can toss him at any time with no penalty, and there'd be no negotiations to be hassled with on that contract either.

and for the earlier post, the union put in a rule because of lavar's giving money back AND suspended his agent (for two years) for allowing him to do that.

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[quote=Skins_4_Lyfe;277209]Mike Brown for Arch???[/quote]
when pigs fly, etc etc.

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[quote=That Guy;277219]they'd want the contract cause the first three years ARE at vet minimum, and they wouldn't have to pay any of the signing bonus (that's ALL on he skins). so they get him cheap for two years and can toss him at any time with no penalty, and there'd be no negotiations to be hassled with on that contract either.

and for the earlier post, the union put in a rule because of lavar's giving money back AND suspended his agent (for two years) for allowing him to do that.[/quote]

According to Canuck's sheet '08 has a 1mill salary and 1 mill roster bonus. '07 is at the minimum.

They would still have to send some compensation. Would they even want to let go of a seventh rounder?

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;277256]According to Canuck's sheet '08 has a 1mill salary and 1 mill roster bonus. '07 is at the minimum.

They would still have to send some compensation. Would they even want to let go of a seventh rounder?[/quote]

actually, in the week after release, any team can pick up a player with his current contract intact (waiver system) before it's totally ripped up. the bears' success would put them behind other teams though, i believe. not sure if you can start a bidding war on a guy claimed by multiple teams, but i'd think not.

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[quote=70Chip;277218]We might be able to get the Mike Brown that used to run FEMA.[/quote]
this is hysterical

Re: Bears interested in Archuleta
 

i say we trade AA to the bears for nothing in return. whatever it takes to get him the hell out of here is good with me.

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[quote=AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace;277205]heck, I'd take the slice of Kraft cheese food on that sandwich[/quote]

You might have to accept Richfood because Kraft comes a bit pricey. Maybe a coupon for some Kraft but an ACTUAL slice..... you might be asking for alot there bro

Re: Bears interested in Archuleta
 

If we could get a 4th or 5th rounder for Arch, I would be loving life.

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[B]Bears interested in Archuleta[/B]

Im shocked that someone is.

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Of course as the Redskins, if the Bears aren't willing to give at least a 4th, I'd hold onto him, saving the cap space.

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[quote=vaoutlaws2006;277311]i say we trade AA to the bears for nothing in return. whatever it takes to get him the hell out of here is good with me.[/quote]

LOL! I have never heard of that kind of trade.

Re: Bears interested in Archuleta
 

Archuleta isnt going anywhere. We are strapped for our salary cap, and our front office is too conservative to trade someone, let alone release them, after one and a huge contract. The only way he leaves is if someone comes after him iwth as much zeal as we did during free agency, and after his first season with us, that is higly unlikely.

We are stuck with him. Just gotta MAKE it work. Maybe he can play LB? hahaha, it works on madden, so fcuk it!