Patrick Kerney?
 

Patrick Kerney has decided to opt out of his contract making him an unresticted free agent would he fit in the redskins system he would be one of those non-high profile players that make a defense better and he wouldn't be really expensive and he could make the redskins trading their number 6 overall pick that much easier

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I'm not sure that he would come that cheap and he said on Sirius that in spite of the fact that he intended to opt out, he has no intention of leaving Atlanta.

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Holy Christ Earthquake, you're on pace to set the record for starting more threads in one week than anyone in the history of thewarpath. I'm not trying to dampen your enthusiasm, but you might want to think if a topic deserves its own thread.

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well i thought about it first but i couldnt put it anywhere else and i know some of the threads i have started really suck ok i get that so i will slow it down alot

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I'd love to see the 'Skins pick him up. I remember him going all the way back to his days with Virginia, he's a high class dude with an awesome Jon Jansen type work ethic (started 150+/- straight games) and the injury he suffered this past year (torn pectorial muscle) is one that should be recoverable and should not nag at him like a knee or ankle would.

Signing him IMO would be ideal because I don't think he would ask for as much money as Fletcher-Baker or Clemons so we could sign him and draft an LB or CB to fill one of those positions instead of a D Lineman. Like everyone seems to think we would go after now.

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It's kidwell all over again

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who is kidwell

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Someone should post a [I]Ballad of Kidwell[/I] to serve as a constant reminder of the dangers of MultiPost Syndrome. I'll give it a whirl...

[I]Come and listen to my story of a sad, sad tale[/I]
[I]About a overzealous poster who's name was Kidwell,[/I]

[I]Then one day he was postin' too many threads[/I]
[I]And so he was banned by the mighty Warpath Heads[/I]

[I]TAFKAS, that is, SmootSmack, Search Guru[/I]
[I]THE WARPATH MODERATORS![/I]

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i always thought he was a high profile guy who would want a ton of money

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You're going to be like the boy who cried wolf, [URL="http://youtube.com/watch?v=WTYAg8DK0Eo"]Quake [NSFW][/URL] (is this you?). At some point, no matter how good the thread people are going to stop caring really. Just need to slow things down a bit.

That said, Kerney is someone I have wondered about since my dream of Justin Smith is firmly entrenched in the rearview mirror

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There's another thread out there asking if the Skins should keep Wynn and Daniels next year. Here's an economic proposition:


Take the money that it will cost to keep Wynn and Daniels.

Subtract from that what it will cost to keep a rookie DL who is on the squad only to learn how to play the position.

Take the difference and see if that is enough to sign Patrick Kerney. If it is, do that in a heartbeat.


Kerney is better than either Daniels or Wynn at this point in their careers. My suspicion is it will take more than that to acquire his services...

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[quote=724Skinsfan;279322]Someone should post a [I]Ballad of Kidwell[/I] to serve as a constant reminder of the dangers of MultiPost Syndrome. I'll give it a whirl...

[I]Come and listen to my story of a sad, sad tale[/I]
[I]About a overzealous poster who's name was Kidwell,[/I]

[I]Then one day he was postin' too many threads[/I]
[I]And so he was banned by the mighty Warpath Heads[/I]

[I]TAFKAS, that is, SmootSmack, Search Guru[/I]
[I]THE WARPATH MODERATORS![/I][/quote]

got it

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;279313]Holy Christ Earthquake, you're on pace to set the record for starting more threads in one week than anyone in the history of thewarpath. I'm not trying to dampen your enthusiasm, but you might want to think if a topic deserves its own thread.[/quote]

I think this one deserves a thread but you are right, Quake does start his fair share.

As far as Kerney, I find him interesting. I am guessing that he wants some serious cash.

I wonder how much Simeon Rice wants? He might be worth a short term (1-2 year) incentive laden contract.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;279332]got it[/quote]

Don't be sad, the more members the better.

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[quote=hooskins;279365]Don't be sad, the more members the better.

[IMG]http://www.julkaisut.fi/lip433/media/need%20a%20hug.jpg[/IMG][/quote]


What a cute little pussy!

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;279371]What a cute little pussy![/quote]

Hah, I was waiting for something outta you. How is it going Grim?

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If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

The D Line is going to be a multi year rebuilding project. Kerney probably doesn't fit into those plans, even if he is more talented than Daniels.

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[quote=GTripp0012;279373]If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

The D Line is going to be a multi year rebuilding project. Kerney probably doesn't fit into those plans, even if he is more talented than Daniels.[/quote]

As odd as it may sound, I think our core D players are not THAT bad. We need one more LB, a good DT, S and CB. Maybe Rocky can become that good LB leaving the DT for the draft and FA for either the S or CB. Just that would significantly help our D.

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[quote=hooskins;279372]Hah, I was waiting for something outta you. How is it going Grim?[/quote]


I can't complain. I wish that a worthwhile article would come out of the Post on Dockery or on Springs. In the meantime, it is funny to watch Quake recycle threads.

No insult intended but how the heck did Miami beat you guys? They say that any road game in the ACC is a battle. The ACC tournament is going to be sick this year. I may take some time off work for that.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;279378]I can't complain. I wish that a worthwhile article would come out of the Post on Dockery or on Springs. In the meantime, it is funny to watch Quake recycle threads.

No insult intended but how the heck did Miami beat you guys? They say that any road game in the ACC is a battle. The ACC tournament is going to be sick this year. I may take some time off work for that.[/quote]
It is terrible, inconsistency on the road has been the story all year long. I just hope we make the tourney. We can never get that 3rd guy to step it up on the road, even in easy games. Just pathetic. It also seems Singletary has lost his confidence as of late.

I am glad the game was not televised otherwise it would have been very painful to watch.

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[quote=hooskins;279374]As odd as it may sound, I think our core D players are not THAT bad. We need one more LB, a good DT, S and CB. Maybe Rocky can become that good LB leaving the DT for the draft and FA for either the S or CB. Just that would significantly help our D.[/quote]Well, our D Line is horrible. The arguement could be made that Carter has a future and Griffin has had a past, but you'd be hard pressed to milk that into a good line.

In the back seven, I agree that our personell needs just a bit of tweaking. With the signings of Fletcher and Clemons (if possible) we would be very strong and deep in both the secondary and the linebackers.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;279373]If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).[/QUOTE]

I don't know if White would come cheap. I like the guy, but I think other teams do too (pure speculation).

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simeion rice is after one thing, lots of money. and how old is kearney? lets use the draft to fill that hole

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;279309]Patrick Kerney has decided to opt out of his contract making him an unresticted free agent would he fit in the redskins system he would be one of those non-high profile players that make a defense better and he wouldn't be really expensive and he could make the redskins trading their number 6 overall pick that much easier[/quote]

He's 30 years old coming off a pretty serious injury. I know he's a good pass rusher but I wouldn't touch this guy. The risk outweighs the reward.

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[quote=GTripp0012;279373]If we are looking to get a guy cheap, Tampa Bay DE Dewayne White is a bulky DE in the mold of a Wynn, but he's 26 and would come on the cheap (allowing us to cut either Daniels or Wynn for cap relief).

The D Line is going to be a multi year rebuilding project. Kerney probably doesn't fit into those plans, even if he is more talented than Daniels.[/quote]

I wish people would realize this. It's going to take time not only to rebuild the line, but the whole defense. We need DT, DE, MLB, FS, and a corner.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;279398]I wish people would realize this. It's going to take time not only to rebuild the line, but the whole defense. We need DT, DE, MLB, FS, and a corner.[/QUOTE]

Or just a SS who can play. Sean Taylor is a fine free safety. They just need someone who can actually let him play it. *cough* Ryan Clark *cough*

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i miss ryan clark he was the perfect compliment to sean taylor

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Back to the Kerney issue, when he said he was going to opt out, I thought, "Great, he's up there in age a few mil a year and put a Skins uniform on him." However, he almost immidiately added that he had no desire to leave Atlanta and would probably take a little less money to stay. However, he seemed like he wants a payday, not necessarily a huge one, but he wants to get paid.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;279313]Holy Christ Earthquake, you're on pace to set the record for starting more threads in one week than anyone in the history of thewarpath. I'm not trying to dampen your enthusiasm, but you might want to think if a topic deserves its own thread.[/quote]


oh come on i only started 7 which i realize is a bit too too too much so i will tone it down

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[quote=dmek25;279387]simeion rice is after one thing, lots of money. and how old is kearney? lets use the draft to fill that hole[/quote]If the Andre Carter thing has taught us one thing it's that teams that ignore the ability of a DE to defend against the run in player eval will get gashed with it.

I still think that this Carter thing can work. But we have to be very careful to build the line around him adding some big guys with pass rushing ability in the middle, but without compromising our ability to stuff the run any further. This means no Simeon Rice's, no Dwight Freeney's, no guys who charge hard upfield and takes themselves out of running plays. We already have one guy who does that.

In my opinion, both Jamaal Anderson and Gaines Adams suffer from this kind of problem. They are both a little light in the ass, and having them and Carter on the field at the same time would be a nightmare. I'm would view either of them as a [I]replacement[/I] for Carter not a bookend.

If we gave up on Archuleta, Lloyd, AND Carter in one offseason, the financial implications would be rediculous.

I want Branch first and foremost, and my second choice would be Okoye.

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[quote=dmek25;279387]simeion rice is after one thing, lots of money. and how old is kearney? lets use the draft to fill that hole[/quote]

I want a D-lineman with the first pick whether they keep #6 or trade down but I don't think Rice can command top dollar after last year. If he would agree to a reasonable incentive based contract, I think he is worth a shot. Then Carter could be moved to the other side where he might have more success.

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stop going after old muthafckas in the free agent market, and get some "financially responsible" picks via the draft!

All he will do is come here and underachieve. Just like every other expensive FA we get.

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[quote=Grim21Reaper;279446]I want a D-lineman with the first pick whether they keep #6 or trade down but I don't think Rice can command top dollar after last year. If he would agree to a reasonable incentive based contract, I think he is worth a shot. Then Carter could be moved to the other side where he might have more success.[/quote]
why would moving carter to the other side give him a better chance at success? he was already playing the weakside

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I like Kerney but it doesn't make much sense to go after him. This draft is perfect for addressing our needs on the DL.

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No thanks I rather have Dwayne White, but we will fill our DE void in the draft.