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Instead of following the Prozac crowd who only wishes to point out the "mistakes" of today's game, let's look at the positives.

1. Clinton Portis rushed for over 130 yards today. He's definitely back on track and this is a good sign for our offense if Portis is running like he has the past two weeks.
2. Jason Campbell - should've had four TD passes today, but three TD passes and appeared to really get on a roll today. The guy is going to be a real solid QB in this league. I think he only gets better from here on out.
3. The offense has been opened up. Nobody should complain about our offense being too conservative today. The offense was attacking the Eagles defense and appeared to be unstoppable.
4. Randall Godfrey - had a really good game and was in position for two INTs.
5. Shawn Springs - Continues to prove that he's our #1 CB. A definite shut down corner for us. I hope he has a few more good years left.
6. Our offensive line - it's starting to open holes for our running backs which is in turn allowing us to open our offense up for a balanced passing attack.
7. MacCardell - In year 16, he's still a dependable WR that can step in and make plays for us when our other receivers are out. Even though we might have lost him for the rest of the season, James Thrash has been another solid guy for us to turn to.

Through all the many injuries we've had to solid veteran players this year and for us to still be above .500 is a big accomplishment. I believe this team is getting closer to being the team we want to see Sunday in and Sunday out. This loss sucked big time today, but I guarantee we beat a team this season that we're not supposed to beat and that will balance everything out.

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I was impressed w/ JC today. His first 3td game i believe. We're starting to see improvement througth the course of this season. We all wanted to see them start to give him more opportunities and he made the most of them today.

CP was impressive too along w/ the Oline.

We just can't get out of our own way sometimes...

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Many, many positives today from the offense, I'll agree.

I just can't believe we finally got the offense going and the defense let us down with penalties and big plays. :doh:

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im impressed with jc and the o line and portis, but I'm so f'ing frustrated that we either have a great defense, or a good offense for the last several years... even during our playoff run... we had a great d and no o... and we cant field a team that plays a full four quarters...

we shouldn't have given up over 30 at home vs. the eagles... i just don't get it... its hard to keep trying to look on the bright side, when every time a bright side shows up the dark side wins over everyone else on the damn team, and we get the same old mediocre result.

theres alot of wasted talent and efforts on this team year in and year out and its very frustrating...


keep the kool-aid this week fellas... I need a fucking beer.

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I agree, it is frustrating when it seems we can't have great football on both sides of the ball at the same time. I was very frustrated with the defense today.

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JC calling plays in the no-huddle. (Not the last series after philly took the lead, but during the rest of the game...) That offense looked better than the one Al-Joe was calling. And, not surprisingly, Al-Joe took back over in the red zone.

Today was a step forward for JC.

Agree about good O-line play. And CP is back--nice to see us run AND pass pretty well.

Thrash. Great game. Shame about the injury. Now those who don't like James can have their wish and we'll see more Lloyd...

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[quote=Mattyk72;376782]Many, many positives today from the offense, I'll agree.

I just can't believe we finally got the offense going and the defense let us down with penalties and big plays. :doh:[/quote]


Yea that REALLY hurts! After just getting home from the game, it not really the D's fault it Joes.....? :doh:

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[quote=Mattyk72;376782]Many, many positives today from the offense, I'll agree.

I just can't believe we finally got the offense going and the defense let us down with penalties and big plays. :doh:[/quote]

Just another day in the life of a Redskins fan.

I don't know if I want to start another thread about this, but what kills me EVERY single week is the inconsistency. If it's not the offense playing like shit, the defense plays like shit. If the defense is holding it down, the offense can't do anything. Then there are the injuries. Every week another one goes down, what the hell are we supposed to do? This isn't a knee-jerk reaction, but honestly I'm fully expecting to get blown-out next week.

And say we don't, it'll be just ANOTHER reason to get my hopes up this season. I'm not saying we're a crappy team and I do know that injuries are part of the game, but what other team has so many injuries at so many key positions? But of course, we HAD to give up a ridiculous amount of points in the fourth quarter. What Redskins game this year would be without THAT?

Has anyone else noticed the trend the past eight weeks? Win, loss, win, loss, win, loss, win, loss. At least the Cowboys will give us some kind of consistency where we lose two weeks in a row.

Goddamit, this team frustrates me so much. I try to be objective and look at things outside of a fan's perspective but this type of shit makes it so hard.

On a happier note, at least we aren't Saints fans today... :D

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;376807]Yea that REALLY hurts! [B]After just getting home from the game, it not really the D's fault it Joes[/B].....? :doh:[/quote]

Yep, it amazes me too.

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Yeah, the offense did everything that most of these fans have been asking for it to do all season long, but there is no mention of that whatsoever.

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I REALLY liked what I saw from the offense today....great rushing AND great passing! Why has that been so hard??? The only complaint from me is obviously the last red zone trip....6 tries and we can't get it in from the 9? Come on fellas...we get that TD and the games pretty much over.

And I'm REALLY hoping that the horrible defense we saw today was mainly a result of those injuries...I hope, I hope, I hope.....

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Here's a silver lining, Campbell's first quarter was waaaayyy better than Peyton Manning's is right now.

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Want the biggest silver lining? The Giants (who we still play again) and the Lions (who we beat) both lost. Realistically, we are fighting with these teams for a Wildcard spot. And they have 2 of the 5 toughest schedules over the remaining 7 weeks. I know anything can happen, but Cowboys and Packers are divsion winners and the West and South divisions will probably finish 7-9 or worse. Winning 4 of 7 will probably earn a berth and then we'll face Packers or Cowboys.

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Don't forget we're still right there in the playoff picture. Only trailing Detroit, and New York by one game for the wildcard spot. The way I look at it the NFC East is out of reach, and we need to just focus on getting a wildcard spot which is still very possible.

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Honestly, I will be happy to see this team finish at 10-6 even if 10-6 isn't enough to get us in the playoffs. I will be disappointed for us not to make the playoffs, but considering all the injuries this team has been racking up, us finishing above .500 will be a big turnaround from a year ago.

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[quote=Mattyk72;376810]Yep, it amazes me too.[/quote]Well, last year it would have been Brunell's fault, so Campbell is still in his year and a half grace period, so then Gibbs is next in line after the QB.

Nevermind that Campbell played the best game of his young career, it's Gibbs' fault for taking a bad timeout that once!

People can't grade anything objectively, I guess we will just have to live with it.

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[quote=skinsguy;376812]Yeah, the offense did everything that most of these fans have been asking for it to do all season long, but there is no mention of that whatsoever.[/quote]Skinsguy, I'll agree with you there. This is the offensive gameplan that we've been looking for all year - Campbell stretched the field with some beautiful throws and Portis gashed the Philly D. I hope that we see more of this moving forward.

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[quote=rypper11;376864]Want the biggest silver lining? The Giants (who we still play again) and the Lions (who we beat) both lost. Realistically, we are fighting with these teams for a Wildcard spot. And they have 2 of the 5 toughest schedules over the remaining 7 weeks. I know anything can happen, but Cowboys and Packers are divsion winners and the West and South divisions will probably finish 7-9 or worse. Winning 4 of 7 will probably earn a berth and then we'll face Packers or Cowboys.[/quote]I predicted last week that 9-7 will be good enough for a wild card. With Detroit's tough schedule - I don't see them winning more than 9 games and we own the tie break over them. It also helped that the Saints and Panthers lost. A wildcard for the Skins is still a decent possibility if they start taking care of their own business.

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[QUOTE=SouperMeister;376883]I predicted last week that 9-7 will be good enough for a wild card. With Detroit's tough schedule - I don't see them winning more than 9 games and we own the tie break over them. It also helped that the Saints and Panthers lost. A wildcard for the Skins is still a decent possibility if they start taking care of their own business.[/QUOTE]

Yeah honestly, winning four of our next seven games doesn't seem too unrealistic to me. That of course means us cutting out the shooting ourselves in the foot routine that we did today.

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the other silver lining is that clinton portis looked completely devastated after the loss... I love the guy and he looked like he was stabbed in the heart as he was walking off the field... I felt connected to him in a way because that's exactly what I felt.

I wish more guys felt that way...I love the guy's passion and his efforts to win. I said a couple of weeks ago I thought he was still the face of the franchise.... and to my surprise no one really agreed with me...

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Want some more good news? Giants play the Lions next week. And the Giants still have to play the Patriots. Lions have the Packers twice and the Chargers. There might only be 5 teams that finish over .500 (I doubt anyone in the west will).

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[quote=canthetuna;376889]the other silver lining is that clinton portis looked completely devastated after the loss... I love the guy and he looked like he was stabbed in the heart as he was walking off the field... I felt connected to him in a way because that's exactly what I felt.

I wish more guys felt that way...I love the guy's passion and his efforts to win. I said a couple of weeks ago I thought he was still the face of the franchise.... and to my surprise no one really agreed with me...[/quote]
I hate it when I am cursing the TV and feel like my heart was ripped in half but the players are all smiles and "aww shucks we lost".

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[QUOTE=canthetuna;376889]the other silver lining is that clinton portis looked completely devastated after the loss... I love the guy and he looked like he was stabbed in the heart as he was walking off the field... I felt connected to him in a way because that's exactly what I felt.

I wish more guys felt that way...I love the guy's passion and his efforts to win. I said a couple of weeks ago I thought he was still the face of the franchise.... and to my surprise no one really agreed with me...[/QUOTE]


I hear ya! When he looked like he was in a slump early this season, I felt he just wasn't 100% yet. People were jumping in line waiting for their turn to bash the guy, and now there is silence since he seems to be back to his old form. He's on pace to go over 1,000 yards rushing this season, which is still an impressive feat in my eyes. I will admit that if there has been any Redskin that I have been very critical about, it's been Carlos Rogers. But, he seemed to have started coming around before he had gotten injured. I'm just wondering where we would be right now if we hadn't had all the injuries we've had so far this season?

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[quote=canthetuna;376889]the other silver lining is that clinton portis looked completely devastated after the loss... I love the guy and he looked like he was stabbed in the heart as he was walking off the field... I felt connected to him in a way because that's exactly what I felt.

I wish more guys felt that way...I love the guy's passion and his efforts to win. I said a couple of weeks ago I thought he was still the face of the franchise.... and to my surprise no one really agreed with me...[/quote]Portis is the man - I hope I don't hear ANYONE saying they prefer Betts after seeing Clinton put this team on his back the last couple of games. The guy is an absolute warrior.

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The best thing about today's game is that it likely didn't help or hurt our chances to make the playoffs. The Giants, Saints, Lions, and Panthers all lost today.

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[quote=SouperMeister;376905]Portis is the man - I hope I don't hear ANYONE saying they prefer Betts after seeing Clinton put this team on his back the last couple of games. The guy is an absolute warrior.[/quote]Clinton has definitely stepped up these last two games.

My only beef with putting our hopes on the running game is that every team in our division has a back better than Portis. So if we are going to run the ball until the cows come home, our offense is going to get outgained by all our divisional opponents.

It's Cooley and Campbell that make us unique and will allow us to separate us from our competition.

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[quote=GTripp0012;376915]
My only beef with putting our hopes on the running game is that every team in our division has a back better than Portis.[/quote]

you really think that??? westbrook cannot get a short yardage run... they shoveled it in today, and he's a great speedy recieving back, but I'd take portis over any other back in our division....

is brandon jacobs better? and julius jones? or are you talking about marion barber?

Either way portis is the second leading rusher in the NFC and number 3 in the entire league... in yards and in td's...

I'm not trying to call you out or be mean, but what you say makes no sense to me.

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if anything i would argue that the TEs compare closest in our division, with witten playing lights out, shockey constantly performing and lj smith for the eagles as well...

cooley is great for us, but there's alot of great te's in our division...

campbell doesn't compare to any of the other qb's in our division yet... unless you're talking about potential. He has the potential to be better than eli, and probably as good as mcnabb is in his prime, but right now he only sets us apart in the fact that he's inexperienced and makes mistakes...

He had a great game today and continues to improve, but right now our running game is what is going to set us apart and where we should outperform our opponents throughout the league...

I'm glad we're getting the passing game on track, but our offense isn't even the concern today... for the last couple of weeks our d has been very suspect.

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[quote=canthetuna;376926]you really think that??? westbrook cannot get a short yardage run... they shoveled it in today, and he's a great speedy recieving back, but I'd take portis over any other back in our division....

is brandon jacobs better? and julius jones? or are you talking about marion barber?

Either way portis is the second leading rusher in the NFC and number 3 in the entire league... in yards and in td's...

I'm not trying to call you out or be mean, but what you say makes no sense to me.[/quote]Westbrook wouldn't last half a season here if asked to get the tough yards that Portis gets. He's an excellent fit for what Philly likes to do - spread the field with the pass, run a lot of draws and screen passes. He is not a classic pounder like Portis.

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Portis is as good as anyone in our division, IMO--I agree with CTT. But we were very balanced today--this was not a repeat of the Jets game. The only offensive fuckups were that nauseating red zone series and the Betts fumble, IMO. The late game stuff wasn't great, but that's hard to do for anyone.

Back to back 100+ yard games from CP, a great overall outing from JC, and good O-line play--today, the offense looked good, and that is a silver lining, no doubt. Now, the D, on the other hand...

THough Carter had another forced fumble--it was a HUGE play, even though we still couldn't get it done. He's been pretty good, IMO--not great against the run, and at times gets too far upfield, but he's making plays for us.

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[quote=canthetuna;376926]you really think that??? westbrook cannot get a short yardage run... they shoveled it in today, and he's a great speedy recieving back, but I'd take portis over any other back in our division....

is brandon jacobs better? and julius jones? or are you talking about marion barber?

Either way portis is the second leading rusher in the NFC and number 3 in the entire league... in yards and in td's...

I'm not trying to call you out or be mean, but what you say makes no sense to me.[/quote]Jacobs is better, Barber is better, Westbrook is better.

Westbrook can't get a short yardage run...that's not based in reality. You don't have to look any further than today, but if you choose to, he's got incredible statistical splits in every situation. He's just a great player, probably the best RB in the conference.

Barber is just really, really good. Probably the 2nd best running back in the conference. Great vision, runs hard, great receiving skills. You can't really argue that Portis is a better running back than those two.

Now, Jacobs is the most controversial, but based on what he's done so far this year, he is very clearly better than Portis. He's still got a long way to go to establish himself as an elite back, but right now I would say he's running better than Portis. Jacobs is having a great, great year so long as hes been healthy. Much better than Portis, thus far. We'll see if I'm right on this one. One thing is for sure, the Giants running game over the past few years has been much better than ours.

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[quote=GTripp0012;376936]Jacobs is better, Barber is better, Westbrook is better.

Westbrook can't get a short yardage run...that's not based in reality. You don't have to look any further than today, but if you choose to, he's got incredible statistical splits in every situation. He's just a great player, probably the best RB in the conference.

Barber is just really, really good. Probably the 2nd best running back in the conference. Great vision, runs hard, great receiving skills. You can't really argue that Portis is a better running back than those two.

Now, Jacobs is the most controversial, but based on what he's done so far this year, he is very clearly better than Portis. He's still got a long way to go to establish himself as an elite back, but right now I would say he's running better than Portis. Jacobs is having a great, great year so long as hes been healthy. Much better than Portis, thus far. We'll see if I'm right on this one. One thing is for sure, the Giants running game over the past few years has been much better than ours.[/quote]None of those guys you named are running behind an O-line that lost two starters on one side.

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And what are the numbers? I think Portis is right up there as well.

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[quote=skinsguy;376765]Instead of following the Prozac crowd who only wishes to point out the "mistakes" of today's game, let's look at the positives.

1. Clinton Portis rushed for over 130 yards today. He's definitely back on track and this is a good sign for our offense if Portis is running like he has the past two weeks.
2. Jason Campbell - should've had four TD passes today, but three TD passes and appeared to really get on a roll today. The guy is going to be a real solid QB in this league. I think he only gets better from here on out.
3. The offense has been opened up. Nobody should complain about our offense being too conservative today. The offense was attacking the Eagles defense and appeared to be unstoppable.
4. Randall Godfrey - had a really good game and was in position for two INTs.
5. Shawn Springs - Continues to prove that he's our #1 CB. A definite shut down corner for us. I hope he has a few more good years left.
6. Our offensive line - it's starting to open holes for our running backs which is in turn allowing us to open our offense up for a balanced passing attack.
7. MacCardell - In year 16, he's still a dependable WR that can step in and make plays for us when our other receivers are out. Even though we might have lost him for the rest of the season, James Thrash has been another solid guy for us to turn to.

Through all the many injuries we've had to solid veteran players this year and for us to still be above .500 is a big accomplishment. I believe this team is getting closer to being the team we want to see Sunday in and Sunday out. This loss sucked big time today, but I guarantee we beat a team this season that we're not supposed to beat and that will balance everything out.[/quote

Yeah, and the point being? We still lost. This franchise has shitty luck since Jack Kent Cooke dies. One phase of the game is great, but another collapses. I will be a grandfather before we make the playoffs it looks like. We can never catch a break or play a full 60 minutes of football. If the offense sucks, the D looks great and vice versa. The NFL is a rather mediocre product overall this decade it seems. Thank God I am in Detroit with some nice alternatives(Pistons, Wings) to fall back on once the Skins pack it up.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;376943][quote=skinsguy;376765]Instead of following the Prozac crowd who only wishes to point out the "mistakes" of today's game, let's look at the positives.

1. Clinton Portis rushed for over 130 yards today. He's definitely back on track and this is a good sign for our offense if Portis is running like he has the past two weeks.
2. Jason Campbell - should've had four TD passes today, but three TD passes and appeared to really get on a roll today. The guy is going to be a real solid QB in this league. I think he only gets better from here on out.
3. The offense has been opened up. Nobody should complain about our offense being too conservative today. The offense was attacking the Eagles defense and appeared to be unstoppable.
4. Randall Godfrey - had a really good game and was in position for two INTs.
5. Shawn Springs - Continues to prove that he's our #1 CB. A definite shut down corner for us. I hope he has a few more good years left.
6. Our offensive line - it's starting to open holes for our running backs which is in turn allowing us to open our offense up for a balanced passing attack.
7. MacCardell - In year 16, he's still a dependable WR that can step in and make plays for us when our other receivers are out. Even though we might have lost him for the rest of the season, James Thrash has been another solid guy for us to turn to.

Through all the many injuries we've had to solid veteran players this year and for us to still be above .500 is a big accomplishment. I believe this team is getting closer to being the team we want to see Sunday in and Sunday out. This loss sucked big time today, but I guarantee we beat a team this season that we're not supposed to beat and that will balance everything out.[/quote

Yeah, and the point being? We still lost. This franchise has shitty luck since Jack Kent Cooke dies. One phase of the game is great, but another collapses. I will be a grandfather before we make the playoffs it looks like. We can never catch a break or play a full 60 minutes of football. If the offense sucks, the D looks great and vice versa. The NFL is a rather mediocre product overall this decade it seems. Thank God I am in Detroit with some nice alternatives(Pistons, Wings) to fall back on once the Skins pack it up.[/QUOTE]

Go crap on someone else's thread. There is already two "Joe must Go" threads for you to do your crappin' in.

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Great thread. F'ing brilliant. It's perfectly ok it seems to bitch after wins, so why not have a thread like this after a loss.

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[quote=SouperMeister;376939]None of those guys you named are running behind an O-line that lost two starters on one side.[/quote]


Good point, but guess what? Those guys are gone so we have to deal with it and hope the backups play good ball. Hopefully next season they will be back 100% and we can give it another go.

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;376943]
Yeah, and the point being? We still lost. This franchise has shitty luck since Jack Kent Cooke dies. One phase of the game is great, but another collapses. I will be a grandfather before we make the playoffs it looks like. We can never catch a break or play a full 60 minutes of football. If the offense sucks, the D looks great and vice versa. The NFL is a rather mediocre product overall this decade it seems. Thank God I am in Detroit with some nice alternatives(Pistons, Wings) to fall back on once the Skins pack it up.[/QUOTE]

Well put! Nice silver lining there! I hate to see what you think the negatives are...:doh:

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Also, Andre Carter continues to look like a stud with 11 sacks in the last 14 games (7 in this season's 9 games).

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;376957]Also, Andre Carter continues to look like a stud with 11 sacks in the last 14 games (7 in this season's 9 games).[/QUOTE]

Plus, another pivotal forced fumble that nearly saved/won the game for us. Too bad it went unrewarded.