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GTripp0012 12-30-2008 05:15 PM

Report: Shanahan out in Denver
 
The National Football Post is reporting this. Link as soon as it comes available.

Miller101 12-30-2008 05:19 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
No Way!!! He's been there forever! I know he hasn't been winning to many games lately, but the talent that he has is a good reason why. I mean, his linebacker corps just SUCKS! Its worse then Detroit's! He hasn't had a Running back since Clinton Portis left and he's only just gotten a quarterback in Jay Cutler!

If this is true, Denver is dumb................................and I did not see it coming!

SBXVII 12-30-2008 05:21 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Wow. just heard it on NFL network and came here. I just left this site not more then a minute ago. Wow.

Since I never get to start anything.....how could he help us. lol. just kidding.

GMScud 12-30-2008 05:22 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Holy Shit!

SBXVII 12-30-2008 05:23 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Any chance we can raid their coach's and get their O-line coach? lol.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 12-30-2008 05:24 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Wow. That's a surprise.

saden1 12-30-2008 05:28 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
He's the longest serving NFL head coach and I wouldn't be surprised if the decision to part ways was mutual.

SBXVII 12-30-2008 05:34 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Wonder what it would take to get Rick Dennison from the Bronco's. Wonder when his contract is up. He's the O-line coach/OC

GMScud 12-30-2008 05:38 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=SBXVII;516673]Wonder what it would take to get Rick Dennison from the Bronco's. Wonder when his contract is up. He's the O-line coach/OC[/quote]

You read my mind...

davy 12-30-2008 05:43 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
About time too, he's been using his DCs as scapegoats for years.

Saying it is down to talent doesn't wash either, he is the guy calling the personnel moves.

Dirtbag59 12-30-2008 05:50 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
No way........how long till someone says lets get him as our OC?

Miller101 12-30-2008 05:52 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;516682]No way........how long till someone says lets get him as our OC?[/quote]

OC!?!?!? How about HC? :)

SBXVII 12-30-2008 05:52 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;516682]No way........how long till someone says lets get him as our OC?[/quote]


Umm. I eluded to that when I said I wanted to be the first. lol. How could he help us. lol. just kidding though

I would rather have the OC Rick Dennison. He has been their staple for O-line coach.

JoeRedskin 12-30-2008 05:52 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
After Elway left, did he win a playoff game? I agree with Davy, this is a coach who had been pretty much teflon for the last 3 or 4 years.

JoeRedskin 12-30-2008 05:53 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Here's the link:

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3800768]ESPN - Denver Broncos fire Mike Shanahan after season falls apart[/url]

SBXVII 12-30-2008 05:55 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
I say find another position for our current OC and bring in Dennison. Then we have to get crafty with getting rid of Hixon and bringing in Christensen from the Colts. Talk about having a team with coaching talent. !!!

saden1 12-30-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Wow, straight up firing? That's cold...that's a Bronco legend right there.

SBXVII 12-30-2008 06:09 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=GMScud;516675]You read my mind...[/quote]


You know this move would go a long way in helping Portis get his long runs. lol.

GMScud 12-30-2008 06:15 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=SBXVII;516689]You know this move would go a long way in helping Portis get his long runs. lol.[/quote]

If the O-line coach comes here, can he bring Ryan Clady with him???:)

SFREDSKIN 12-30-2008 06:16 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
The "Rat" is out!! That's what my Raiders friends call him, cause when he smiles he looks like a RAT.

jamf 12-30-2008 07:01 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=SBXVII;516668]Any chance we can raid their coach's and get their O-line coach? lol.[/quote]

I hope so. Zone blocking anyone?

Paintrain 12-30-2008 07:26 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Zorn's pressure just got ratcheted up a couple notches. Can you imagine Shanahan, Holmgren and Cowher available next offseason? Snyder is probably trembling in anticipation to make the change!

BrunellMVP? 12-30-2008 07:55 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
spags or cowher the new broncos coach?

30gut 12-30-2008 08:00 PM

Re: Report: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=GTripp0012;516659]The National Football Post is reporting this. Link as soon as it comes available.[/quote]

Dude this is a dream right?
We need to raid their entire coaching staff!
Right their ripe for the plucking an entire staff top to bottom that ran one of
the most explosive WCOs in the league.
Dude, we should make everyone on his staff an offer.

[B] Jim Ryan[/B]

Offensive Assistant; born May 18, 1957, Bellmawr, N.J. Linebacker William & Mary 1974-1978. Linebacker Denver Broncos 1979-1988. Pro coach: Joined Broncos in 2005.

[B]Steve Watson[/B]

Associate Head Coach; born May 28, 1957, Baltimore. Wide receiver Temple 1975-78. Pro wide receiver Denver 1979-1987. Pro coach: Joined Broncos in 2001.

[B]Pat McPherson[/B]

Tight Ends; born April 15, 1969, Santa Clara, Calif. Linebacker Santa Clara 1991-92. No pro playing experience. Pro coach: Joined Broncos in 1998.

[B]Rick Dennison[/B]

Offensive Coordinator/Offensive Line; born June 22, 1958, in Kalispell, Mont. Tight end Colorado State 1976-79. Pro linebacker Denver Broncos 1982-1990. Pro coach: Joined Broncos in 1995

[url=http://www.nfl.com/teams/coaches?coaType=assist&team=DEN]Denver Broncos Coaching Staff[/url]

Hail to the Redskins 12-30-2008 09:08 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
Anyone else see the the Broncos as the Anti-Redskins? lol

* LOST that glorious Super Bowl to us (with a #17 at the helm!)

* Long-Term Coach (no need to explain the opposite here)

* Above Average Offense (Redskins - Above Average Defense)

* Terrible Defense (Redskins - Terrible Offense)

* Terrible Division - AFC West (Redskins - one of toughest divisions - NFC East)

It's kinda funny he's getting canned... the other night as I watched their game I thought... Imagine if there was the "Bronskins" or "Redscos" where our defense is teamed with their offense...

Super Bowl contender!!


By the way... Zorn recently said that he didn't think he was over his head doing 3 jobs and plans to remain QB coach (with help from Meidt), OC (with help from S Smith) and HC... maybe a new receiver coach, and maybe Buges hangs it up though...

Beemnseven 12-30-2008 09:22 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
The Broncos defense has been gashed all year, and with Shanahan in full control of personnel, the blame had to go somewhere. Looks like the Broncos' offense has a formidable trio of players with Cutler, Royal, and Marshall though.

He won't have trouble finding another job. I could see him in Kansas City if their new front office is done with Herman Edwards.

Beemnseven 12-30-2008 09:25 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=Paintrain;516708]Zorn's pressure just got ratcheted up a couple notches. Can you imagine Shanahan, Holmgren and Cowher available next offseason? Snyder is probably trembling in anticipation to make the change![/quote]

Man, you're not kidding. This would be an entirely new level of restraint from Lil' Danny if he can resist the urge.

DynamiteRave 12-30-2008 09:35 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=Miller101;516683]OC!?!?!? How about HC? :)[/quote]

There's already a thread on ExtremeSkins (I got desperate while WP was down) saying that we should fire Zorn and hire Shanahan.

tryfuhl 12-30-2008 09:37 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=Miller101;516663]No Way!!! He's been there forever! I know he hasn't been winning to many games lately, but the talent that he has is a good reason why. I mean, his linebacker corps just SUCKS! Its worse then Detroit's! He hasn't had a Running back since Clinton Portis left and he's only just gotten a quarterback in Jay Cutler!

If this is true, Denver is dumb................................and I did not see it coming![/quote]
Yeah well he's the one that makes personnel decisions... errr, made

GMScud 12-30-2008 11:21 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
King Speculator AKA Dr. Rumor Monger AKA Mike Florio of PFT posted this nugget a little while ago. I wouldn't put much into it yet, but still interesting.

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/30/shanahan-has-something-up-his-sleeve/"]SHANAHAN HAS SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE?[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on December 30, 2008, 7:51 p.m.


The immediate speculation in some league circles when word broke of the termination of long-time Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is that Shanahan has something else cooking, and that he forced his firing by refusing to agree to changes that owner Pat Bowlen wants to make.
According to Jeff Legwold of the [I]Rocky Mountain News[/I], part of that speculation is right on the money.
Per Legwold, Shanahan was fired because [URL="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/30/shanahan-broncos-agree-part-ways/"]he refused to fire defensive coordinator Bob Slowik[/URL], whose unit surrendered 52 points in a Week Seventeen loss to the Chargers.
Said Bowlen, in a release issued by the team: “After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Denver Broncos[/URL]. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned.
“I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history.”
So if Shanahan wanted to get out of town because he has something else cooking, what might it be?
Believe it or not, there’s speculation that Shanahan is trying to position himself for the Chargers job.
What’s that, you say? The Chargers are in the playoffs and they’ve made it clear that Norv Turner is coming back as head coach?
That was our reaction, too. But a highly-placed league source suspects that something is happening with Shanahan and San Diego.
In our book, it’s almost as unlikely as Shanahan coaching the Raiders. But we’ll continue to keep our eyes peeled on this one.

drew54 12-30-2008 11:46 PM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=GMScud;516790]King Speculator AKA Dr. Rumor Monger AKA Mike Florio of PFT posted this nugget a little while ago. I wouldn't put much into it yet, but still interesting.

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/30/shanahan-has-something-up-his-sleeve/"]SHANAHAN HAS SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE?[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on December 30, 2008, 7:51 p.m.


The immediate speculation in some league circles when word broke of the termination of long-time Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is that Shanahan has something else cooking, and that he forced his firing by refusing to agree to changes that owner Pat Bowlen wants to make.
According to Jeff Legwold of the [I]Rocky Mountain News[/I], part of that speculation is right on the money.
Per Legwold, Shanahan was fired because [URL="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/30/shanahan-broncos-agree-part-ways/"]he refused to fire defensive coordinator Bob Slowik[/URL], whose unit surrendered 52 points in a Week Seventeen loss to the Chargers.
Said Bowlen, in a release issued by the team: “After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Denver Broncos[/URL]. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned.
“I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history.”
So if Shanahan wanted to get out of town because he has something else cooking, what might it be?
Believe it or not, there’s speculation that Shanahan is trying to position himself for the Chargers job.
What’s that, you say? The Chargers are in the playoffs and they’ve made it clear that Norv Turner is coming back as head coach?
That was our reaction, too. But a highly-placed league source suspects that something is happening with Shanahan and San Diego.
In our book, it’s almost as unlikely as Shanahan coaching the Raiders. But we’ll continue to keep our eyes peeled on this one.[/quote]

I wonder who sells him his Pineapple Express.

htownskinfan 12-31-2008 12:33 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=drew54;516794]I wonder who sells him his Pineapple Express.[/quote]

I do,why do you ask?:Smoker::laughing2

djnemo65 12-31-2008 02:02 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
I'd be interested to know if Shanahan discussed staying on as a head coach while surrendering his GM powers, a la Holmgren a few years ago. While his game management is second to none, failure is not a strong enough word to describe his personnel decisions of the last several seasons, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

If Cowher comes back this year it will be for this job, mark it down.

Hog1 12-31-2008 09:03 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[B]The immediate speculation in some league circles when word broke of the termination of long-time Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is that Shanahan has something else cooking.[/B]Posted by GMScud via...some ......newspeople

Does not Shanahan have ties to Jerry Jones???

firstdown 12-31-2008 09:05 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=GMScud;516790]King Speculator AKA Dr. Rumor Monger AKA Mike Florio of PFT posted this nugget a little while ago. I wouldn't put much into it yet, but still interesting.

[B][URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/30/shanahan-has-something-up-his-sleeve/"]SHANAHAN HAS SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE?[/URL][/B]

Posted by Mike Florio on December 30, 2008, 7:51 p.m.


The immediate speculation in some league circles when word broke of the termination of long-time Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is that Shanahan has something else cooking, and that he forced his firing by refusing to agree to changes that owner Pat Bowlen wants to make.
According to Jeff Legwold of the [I]Rocky Mountain News[/I], part of that speculation is right on the money.
Per Legwold, Shanahan was fired because [URL="http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/dec/30/shanahan-broncos-agree-part-ways/"]he refused to fire defensive coordinator Bob Slowik[/URL], whose unit surrendered 52 points in a Week Seventeen loss to the Chargers.
Said Bowlen, in a release issued by the team: “After giving this careful consideration, I have concluded that a change in our football operations is in the best interests of the [URL="http://www.profootballtalk.com/category/rumor-mill/#"]Denver Broncos[/URL]. This is certainly a difficult decision, but one that I feel must be made and which will ultimately be in the best interests of all concerned.
“I appreciate the 21 years that Mike Shanahan has given to the organization as an assistant and head coach, and the two Super Bowl wins in that time. His contributions hold a special place in Broncos history.”
So if Shanahan wanted to get out of town because he has something else cooking, what might it be?
Believe it or not, there’s speculation that Shanahan is trying to position himself for the Chargers job.
What’s that, you say? The Chargers are in the playoffs and they’ve made it clear that Norv Turner is coming back as head coach?
That was our reaction, too. But a highly-placed league source suspects that something is happening with Shanahan and San Diego.
In our book, it’s almost as unlikely as Shanahan coaching the Raiders. But we’ll continue to keep our eyes peeled on this one.[/quote]
If I'm correct he was under contract and if he had talks with Okland then he and Okland have broken league rules of tampering. I also would think that if that was true he would loose the 23 million still left on his contract with the Bronco's.

birdz4gibbs 12-31-2008 09:26 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
all i can say is who,s next....

the axe is is swinging fast..

SBXVII 12-31-2008 09:50 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
^To be honest I'm supprised Jacksonville is still keeping their HC. I thought his job was on the bubble last yr?

I would think Oakland would keep their coach only 'cause it seems he has a hell of a time coaxing any coach to take over his team. but we are talking about Al Davis.

30gut 12-31-2008 10:02 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=firstdown;516840]If I'm correct he was under contract and if he had talks with Okland then he and Okland have broken league rules of tampering. I also would think that if that was true he would loose the 23 million still left on his contract with the Bronco's.[/quote]

I doubt Oakland is involved b/c Shanahan HATES Al Davis.

SFREDSKIN 12-31-2008 10:47 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=30gut;516851]I doubt Oakland is involved b/c Shanahan HATES Al Davis.[/quote]

Al still owes him money and vows to never pay him, just like Kiffin.

MTK 12-31-2008 11:01 AM

Re: Shanahan out in Denver
 
[quote=Hog1;516839][B]The immediate speculation in some league circles when word broke of the termination of long-time Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is that Shanahan has something else cooking.[/B]Posted by GMScud via...some ......newspeople

Does not Shanahan have ties to Jerry Jones???[/quote]

He does have a relationship with Jones, they were speculating this morning on ESPN radio that he could end up there. I wouldn't put it past Jones despite what he's saying about keeping Phillips.


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