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Bill B 01-06-2009 03:44 PM

If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
Saw a report that Matt Hasselback is entering the final year of his contract with the Seahawks and his cap number is $6.3 million and he may be a possible cut. With the coach leaving the team maybe the Seahawks would consider cutting him? If he were to get cut should the Skins make a run and sign him? If the Skins signed him I guess this would send the clear message to JC that he is not the future - Scout.com said Hasselback at 33 still has 3-4 good years left in his career. My gut tells me leave qb alone and just start building the lines....

[url=http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html]Scout.com: Cut Matt Hasselbeck?[/url]

Redskin Warrior 01-06-2009 03:48 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
I doubt they will cut him at all, but you will never know with him and Zorn's relationship it could happen.

44ever 01-06-2009 03:49 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Bill B;518270]Saw a report that Matt Hasselback is entering the final year of his contract with the Seahawks and his cap number is $6.3 million and he may be a possible cut. With the coach leaving the team maybe the Seahawks would consider cutting him? If he were to get cut should the Skins make a run and sign him? If the Skins signed him I guess this would send the clear message to JC that he is not the future - Scout.com said Hasselback at 33 still has 3-4 good years left in his career. My gut tells me leave qb alone and just start building the lines....

[url=http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html]Scout.com: Cut Matt Hasselbeck?[/url][/quote]

Bill, I'm going to have to go with your gut on this one :)

Soup's Uncle 01-06-2009 03:50 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
NO Way.

KLHJ2 01-06-2009 03:51 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
Then those Expedia commercials will be really weird to watch. Could you imagine the tension on the set?

firstdown 01-06-2009 04:01 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
If we can not get Vick when he gets out of the pin I say Matt might be a good second choice.

GMScud 01-06-2009 04:02 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
They would be dumb to let him go. He's a proven pro-bowl talent when healthy, and 33 isn't over the hill for a QB by any means. They should draft a solid QB prospect and let him develop for a few years under Hasselbeck.

And if they do cut him, NO, we should not bring him here.

MTK 01-06-2009 04:05 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
He still has some quality years left in him as a starter, not sure that he would want to come here as a backup.

Paintrain 01-06-2009 04:05 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Bill B;518270]Saw a report that Matt Hasselback is entering the final year of his contract with the Seahawks and his cap number is $6.3 million and he may be a possible cut. With the coach leaving the team maybe the Seahawks would consider cutting him? If he were to get cut should the Skins make a run and sign him? If the Skins signed him I guess this would send the clear message to JC that he is not the future - Scout.com said Hasselback at 33 still has 3-4 good years left in his career. My gut tells me leave qb alone and just start building the lines....

[url=http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html]Scout.com: Cut Matt Hasselbeck?[/url][/quote]

If we were simply a QB away from a SB run then I'd say go for it. We're not, so let's not.

GTripp0012 01-06-2009 04:12 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
I'd love to have Hasselbeck on the roster, but obviously he would have to be cut first, and then the money issue would have to work. That, and the guy is clearly in decline, so if he doesn't give Zorn a significant discount (less than 3 mil a year, what TC is making), we'd be overpaying for sure.

KI Skins Fan 01-06-2009 04:19 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
Now, here's a topic we can sink our teeth into!

If I put myself in Jim Zorn's shoes and Hasselbeck becomes available, then I would want him. This one is a no brainer for Zorn. Zorn has got to believe that he had better make the playoffs next year if he wants to stick around and he just may think that he would have a much better shot at the playoffs with Hasselbeck as his QB. He has already put the work in on Hasselbeck. HB knows the system Zorn wants to run and how to play the QB position the way Zorn wants it to be played.

Now, how does that sit with Dan Snyder and VC, especially since Zorn was brought in to develop JC? I don't know.

Personally, I have little doubt that HB would do a better job than JC as our QB in the short term and, for Zorn, there may not be a long term unless he wins in the short term.

In the interest of full disclosure, my thoughts on this topic are affected by my growing suspicion that JC's future in the NFL may be as a career backup QB.

Meks 01-06-2009 04:24 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
i plain dont like the PLAYER, so i wouldnt want him here.

infamous Green Bay playoff game still haunts me in overtime coin toss...

"we'll take the ball, and we're going to score!"

and u thrwo a pick on the 2nd play for the game winning TD. HA! serves u right, i hate seattle.

MTK 01-06-2009 04:24 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
The only way I bring in Hasselbeck is under these conditions: he comes cheap, and he understands that he is the clearcut backup for 2009 and is a mentor for JC.

Beyond that will depend on Campbell's development. If JC falters Hasselbeck takes over in 2010. If JC is worthy of a new contract and is the clear answer for the long term, we cut Hasselbeck to let him try to start elsewhere.

GMScud 01-06-2009 04:31 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;518304]The only way I bring in Hasselbeck is under these conditions: he comes cheap, and he understands that he is the clearcut backup for 2009 and is a mentor for JC.

Beyond that will depend on Campbell's development. If JC falters Hasselbeck takes over in 2010. If JC is worthy of a new contract and is the clear answer for the long term, we cut Hasselbeck to let him try to start elsewhere.[/quote]

I totally agree with those conditions, and I also don't ever see that happening. There are enough teams out there in need of a quality starting QB that (IF he's cut) he won't have to take a backup role with a backup's paycheck.

SirClintonPortis 01-06-2009 04:32 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
Address a need first, like the lines or Marcus Washington's replacement. Cap space is tight this year, so they shouldn't make a run for Hasslebeck.

WaldSkins 01-06-2009 04:34 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
Not saying we should cut him, but what do you think Campbell is worth?

Skinny Tee 01-06-2009 04:37 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Angry;518275]Then those Expedia commercials will be really weird to watch. Could you imagine the tension on the set?[/quote]

Lol...

If we were running a full WCO then I'd like to do it. The whole leftover Gibbs style offense seems to be jamming our WC style up.

For some reason I wouldn't mind having Hasselback. We'd have to go whole hog WCO though.

I really wouldn't like the instabilty of changing Campbell out but even our own front office seems to not have his long term prospects in mind here. Hypotheical situation I'd say yes to Hasselback, but when real life application pans out I'd probably say NO.

DarkKnight 01-06-2009 04:50 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Bill B;518270]Saw a report that Matt Hasselback is entering the final year of his contract with the Seahawks and his cap number is $6.3 million and he may be a possible cut. With the coach leaving the team maybe the Seahawks would consider cutting him? If he were to get cut should the Skins make a run and sign him? If the Skins signed him I guess this would send the clear message to JC that he is not the future - Scout.com said Hasselback at 33 still has 3-4 good years left in his career. My gut tells me leave qb alone and just start building the lines....

[url=http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html]Scout.com: Cut Matt Hasselbeck?[/url][/quote]


maybe, maybe maybe .......

warriorzpath 01-06-2009 04:56 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
if he's released and Zorn still believes in him as a quarterback - I say do it. Who else can make a better judgment? He has worked closest with both Hasselback and Campbell to make the best decision. The qb is THE most important decision on any team; a team's dependence on success doesn't end on this decision, but it should start there.

It is obvious that the most important position to address is quarterback. Having a qb that fits great always works wonders. Just look at Parcells (and I hate to admit how successful he is with player personnel matters); he makes the hard and sometimes unpopular decision at the time, at this position - both short and long term.

KI Skins Fan 01-06-2009 04:56 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;518304]The only way I bring in Hasselbeck is under these conditions: he comes cheap, and he understands that he is the clearcut backup for 2009 and is a mentor for JC.

Beyond that will depend on Campbell's development. If JC falters Hasselbeck takes over in 2010. If JC is worthy of a new contract and is the clear answer for the long term, we cut Hasselbeck to let him try to start elsewhere.[/quote]

You would allow JC to falter through the entire 2009 season before going to Hasslebeck? Oh no, I'm too old and impatient for that!

How about this instead? If JC falters in the 3Q of the first game of 2009, then Hasslebeck takes over in the 4Q of that game.

Then, JC can start the next game. If he plays well, he stays in. If not, we go to the relief pitcher again.

I think it's good for a player to live in fear of losing his job. That way, a coach knows that he's got the player's attention.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-06-2009 04:59 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
I'd say no to Matt Hasselback if, for no other reason than, i fully expect Zorn to be fired after this year. I dont want Bill Cowher or Mike Shanahan being stuck with a WCO QB. I guess Holmgren would be fine with Hassleback, but I'd prefer Cowher or Shanahan to him.

freddyg12 01-06-2009 05:08 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
Before anyone asks for it, I don't have a link (espn's site has been freezing on me this afternoon), but earlier in the day on the nfc blog, they had the nfc north reporter taking questions & someone asked him about this. He said it's only a 1mil cap figure & he expects MH back in seattle as the coaches expect him to fully heal.

SmootSmack 01-06-2009 05:09 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/512201-post1.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Someonewhotriedtocasuallydropasubtlehintlastmonththatthiswasntanimpossiblescenario]Jason Campbell I need to go back and watch the game again, but what I saw wasn't impressive. What's the problem? Is it really the offensive line? Is it the schemes? Do you need some competition to get your juices flowing again? Should we call it an open competition with Colt this summer? Should we maybe bring in a veteran to put a little scare in you. You want Hasselbeck here?[/QUOTE]

warriorzpath 01-06-2009 05:09 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;518322]I'd say no to Matt Hasselback if, for no other reason than, i fully expect Zorn to be fired after this year. I dont want Bill Cowher or [B][I]Mike Shanahan[/I][/B] being stuck with a WCO QB. I guess Holmgren would be fine with Hassleback, but I'd prefer Cowher or Shanahan to him.[/quote]

Mike Shanahan is from the Bill Walsh... George Siefert coaching tree; so if I'm not mistaken, his offense is the WCO.

WaldSkins 01-06-2009 05:18 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=warriorzpath;518329]Mike Shanahan is from the Bill Walsh... George Siefert coaching tree; so if I'm not mistaken, his offense is the WCO.[/quote]

Good Point, also why would Holgrem come here after Zorn gets fired.

Meks 01-06-2009 05:21 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
^ zorn could get demoted to QB coach again lol then holmgren could step in.

not my cup of tea.

WaldSkins 01-06-2009 05:27 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Meks;518337]^ zorn could get demoted to QB coach again lol then holmgren could step in.

not my cup of tea.[/quote]

I'd like to see Holgrem as our GM and Zorn stay as our coach.

WaldSkins 01-06-2009 05:29 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Meks;518337]^ zorn could get demoted to QB coach again lol then holmgren could step in.

not my cup of tea.[/quote]

I'd like to see Holgrem as our GM and Zorn stay as our coach. Then i'd like to see Vinny be in charge of cleaning the bathrooms after home games.

MTK 01-06-2009 05:31 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;518319]You would allow JC to falter through the entire 2009 season before going to Hasslebeck? Oh no, I'm too old and impatient for that!

How about this instead? [B]If JC falters in the 3Q of the first game of 2009, then Hasslebeck takes over in the 4Q of that game.[/B]

Then, JC can start the next game. If he plays well, he stays in. If not, we go to the relief pitcher again.

I think it's good for a player to live in fear of losing his job. That way, a coach knows that he's got the player's attention.[/quote]

I'd prefer to not play musical QBs that drastically. You've gotta give JC a realistic time to show that he's developing from this year to the next. 3/4 of the first game? :doh:

MTK 01-06-2009 05:32 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=GMScud;518306]I totally agree with those conditions, and I also don't ever see that happening. There are enough teams out there in need of a quality starting QB that (IF he's cut) he won't have to take a backup role with a backup's paycheck.[/quote]

Yeah I agree, I was just tossing that out there. If MH was cut there would be a number of teams lining up to sign him as their starter.

SmootSmack 01-06-2009 05:36 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;518344]Yeah I agree, I was just tossing that out there. If MH was cut there would be a number of teams lining up to sign him as their starter.[/quote]

Starting with the Bears and Vikings I'm sure

MTK 01-06-2009 05:37 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;518348]Starting with the Bears and Vikings I'm sure[/quote]

yeah no doubt, the Vikes would actually be a great fit.

GMScud 01-06-2009 05:37 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=SmootSmack;518348]Starting with the Bears and Vikings I'm sure[/quote]

And the Lions...

WaldSkins 01-06-2009 05:42 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=GMScud;518351]And the Lions...[/quote]

The only people that play for the lions are draft picks

saden1 01-06-2009 06:13 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
The Seahawks are not going to cut Matt Hasselback. I would wager $500 he'll be a Seahawk for a few more years. They have nobody that can step in and play QB and if this team doesn't win Hawks fans will go the way of the dodo. They're a fickle bunch up here and their management isn't going to mess with what's working out of fear of losing the fan base. I expect them to draft a QB in April though.

Of course if his back is total shit, he'll be shit-canned quickly.

WaldSkins 01-06-2009 06:39 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=saden1;518364]The Seahawks are not going to cut Matt Hasselback.[B] I would wager $500 he'll be a Seahawk for a few more years.[/B] They have nobody that can step in and play QB and if this team doesn't win Hawks fans will go the way of the dodo. They're a fickle bunch up here and their management isn't going to mess with what's working out of fear of losing the fan base. I expect them to draft a QB in April though.

[B]Of course if his back is total shit, he'll be shit-canned quickly.[/B][/quote]

Hmmmmm

saden1 01-06-2009 06:43 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=WaldSkins;518369]Hmmmmm[/quote]

We don't know the severity of his injury...if he's healthy he's a Seahawk for the foreseeable future. I'm not betting on a broken man but if he is healthy and you want to take that bet I'm down.

53Fan 01-06-2009 07:18 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;518304]The only way I bring in Hasselbeck is under these conditions: he comes cheap, and he understands that he is the clearcut backup for 2009 and is a mentor for JC.

Beyond that will depend on Campbell's development. If JC falters Hasselbeck takes over in 2010. If JC is worthy of a new contract and is the clear answer for the long term, we cut Hasselbeck to let him try to start elsewhere.[/quote]

That is the only way it would make sense for me. But I don't think Matt would accept that at this point in his career and by the time he would, we should'nt need him. This scenario is the only way I could see it happening.

saden1 01-06-2009 07:37 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=53Fan;518374]That is the only way it would make sense for me. But I don't think Matt would accept that at this point in his career and by the time he would, we should'nt need him. This scenario is the only way I could see it happening.[/quote]

If you sign Hasselback then it's "may the best man win." The job has to be earned and at this point it's time for JC to grow up and be a baller or pack his bags. The offense ain't new after one year. Throwing the football is throwing the football and reading defenses is reading defenses. There's no magic o it. No more baby sitting, he has to earn his keep.

If you get your hands on the football you got to catch it. This is business.

itvnetop 01-06-2009 08:41 PM

Re: If the Seahawks released Matt Hasselback should the Skins make a run at signing him?
 
[quote=saden1;518378]If you sign Hasselback then it's "may the best man win." The job has to be earned and at this point it's time for JC to grow up and be a baller or pack his bags. The offense ain't new after one year. Throwing the football is throwing the football and reading defenses is reading defenses. There's no magic o it. No more baby sitting, he has to earn his keep.

If you get your hands on the football you got to catch it. This is business.[/quote]

+1. If this somehow played out and the Skins did sign him, it's open competition.


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