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30gut 03-29-2009 11:13 PM

Redskins@Cowboys NFL Network
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap?game_id=29586&displayPage=tab_recap]NFL Game Center: Game Recap - Washington Redskins at Dallas Cowboys - 2008 4[/url]

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Quarterback Jason Campbell led the Redskins on four consecutive scoring drives that spanned the second and third quarters as Washington took control of the game. Campbell finished with two touchdown passes and is the only quarterback (with at least 50 attempts) without an interception this season.
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This game was a reminder of how producitve our offense can be.

It also made me wonder how some fans can feels such negativity towards Jason Campbell?

Campbell was 20-of-31 for 231 yards with 2 TDs

HTTR!

Eknox 03-29-2009 11:17 PM

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Yeah he looked like a Franchise QB then, unfortunately there was a flip flop on that look in the 2nd half of the season

skinsfaninok 03-30-2009 01:07 AM

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It shows he has potential, but like EKnox said, he was terrible down the stretch! Jason is a good player but I doubt he will be a redskin in 2010 unless he has a GREAT season and we make a playoff run (It doesn't help that he has no TRUE #1 WR)

Swarley 03-30-2009 01:27 AM

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Yeah but was it Jasons fault or was it the fact that he was running for his life most of the time? You see what this game shows is that if you can protect him than Jason can make things happen. Not to mention he's quite good even with the occasional pressure at either evading the rusher and passing or running.

Meks 03-30-2009 01:52 AM

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our team lossed the games we lost, our team, not jason campbell

Ruhskins 03-30-2009 02:03 AM

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[quote=Meks;540554]our team lossed the games we lost, our team, not jason campbell[/quote]

Well said. The day that Jason Campbell has the game that [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=290110029"]Delhomme had in the playoffs[/URL], then you can say that he lost the game.

freddyg12 03-30-2009 08:46 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540551]It shows he has potential, but like EKnox said, he was terrible down the stretch! Jason is a good player but I doubt he will be a redskin in 2010 unless he has a GREAT season and we make a playoff run (It doesn't help that he has no TRUE #1 WR)[/quote]

"terrible?"
To me that means making bad decisions & having no awareness in the pocket. Even when he had no protection & nobody open, JC didn't hurt the team. And he started running when all else failed & made some big plays w/his feet.

SBXVII 03-30-2009 09:07 AM

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I guess my problem is with people who think the JC who played lights out for 8 games all of a sudden lost his mind and forgot how to play.

Do you guys who want to blame JC think it was that he digressed, or that other teams figured out what we were doing and found a way to ruffle his feathers?

For those who blame JC have you not put any thought into the fact that possibly injuries may have caused our O-line to break down faster leaving JC no where to go with the ball?

and...lastly do we not put some if not a good majority of the blame on coach Zorn for not sending in plays that would give JC time to throw the ball since the line seemed to break down quickly?

2BIG2BSKINNY 03-30-2009 09:34 AM

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This game was a reminder of some of our holes... Rabach was terrible all game... look at it... this game was a reminder that his skills are diminishing. I would not mind the Skins trading down and get a new beast center (Unger/Mack or Wood in 2nd round) and pick up a good not great LB! This game also showed the reason Markus Washington is on the streets right now... Steps slower than his pro bowl season. Also need to get more pass rush, this is how the Cowgirls started to mount a comeback!!!

That game shows me tons!!!!!

JC is doing fine!!! He is not great but we can win with him.

CRedskinsRule 03-30-2009 09:55 AM

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[quote=2BIG2BSKINNY;540572]This game was a reminder of some of our holes... Rabach was terrible all game... look at it... this game was a reminder that his skills are diminishing. I would not mind the Skins trading down and get a new beast center (Unger/Mack or Wood in 2nd round) and pick up a good not great LB! This game also showed the reason Markus Washington is on the streets right now... Steps slower than his pro bowl season. [B]Also need to get more pass rush, [/B] this is how the Cowgirls started to mount a comeback!!!

That game shows me tons!!!!!

JC is doing fine!!! He is not great but we can win with him.[/quote]

I watched this game last night, and (since we now have AH) all I kept thinking was how little rush our DT's accomplished. I was dreaming about AH taking one of those single blockers that they had up front and just mauling through them to Romo. Of course I doubt AH will ever have a single blocker on him!!

dmek25 03-30-2009 10:33 AM

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can never get enough of the skins whipping alittle dallas tail

Miller101 03-30-2009 10:56 AM

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[quote=GreekSkin;540553]Yeah but was it Jasons fault or was it the fact that he was running for his life most of the time? You see what this game shows is that if you can protect him than Jason can make things happen. [B]Not to mention he's quite good even with the occasional pressure at either evading the rusher and passing or running.[/B][/quote]

AMEN! Remember that time when he ducked the inside blitz then hit Santana for an 80 yard bomb against the Cardinals?

Zorn has a good quarterback to work with. I'm glad that we got him. I won't forget when he was a rookie against the Giants in 2006...............it was the fourth quarter and we were down by six points. Gibbs called a busted play, but Campbell found Betts and scored a touchdown with it anyway. Campbell is a good quarterback. Zorn just needs to realize that you can't leave the edges open for a blitz if you're going to throw the ball 60% of the time.

P.S. Read my sig!!!

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-30-2009 11:10 AM

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[quote=Miller101;540588]AMEN! Remember that time when he ducked the inside blitz then hit Santana for an 80 yard bomb against the Cardinals?

Zorn has a good quarterback to work with. I'm glad that we got him. I won't forget when he was a rookie against the Giants in 2006...............it was the fourth quarter and we were down by six points. Gibbs called a busted play, but Campbell found Betts and scored a touchdown with it anyway. Campbell is a good quarterback. Zorn just needs to realize that you can't leave the edges open for a blitz if you're going to throw the ball 60% of the time.

P.S. Read my sig!!![/quote]


wasnt that pass against the saints

skinsfan69 03-30-2009 11:39 AM

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Enough of all you JC haters! My god give it a rest. To say the guy played terrible is just stupid. He played good the first half and I'd say average (considering the circumstances) the second half. He needs to take it to the next level in 09. Everyone knows that. But to sit here and say he's terrible makes me wonder if some of you have any football IQ.

skinsfaninok 03-30-2009 11:43 AM

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Guys Jason is a decent QB but you can't blame the OLINE every season, Or talent around him because Cooley is a Pro Bowler, Portis is a Pro bowler, Sellars and Samuels aswell!! He has to make plays not the OLINE.

GTripp0012 03-30-2009 11:47 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540598]Guys Jason is a decent QB but you can't blame the OLINE every season, Or talent around him because Cooley is a Pro Bowler, Portis is a Pro bowler, Sellars and Samuels aswell!! He has to make plays not the OLINE.[/quote]Well then maybe we should get Sellers and Samuels on the outside running verticals, since, you know, they are pro bowlers and what Jason really needs are pro bowlers on the outside.

And look at you, while sitting on your "8 bad games" high horse, telling the rest of us that season-long issues around the offense aren't an excuse. Are you for real?

terpsez11 03-30-2009 12:25 PM

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[quote=Eknox;540543]Yeah he looked like a Franchise QB then, unfortunately there was a flip flop on that look in the 2nd half of the season[/quote]

Brunell looked good vs Them...once upon a time...long long ago

firstdown 03-30-2009 12:38 PM

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I notice the original post mentioned he went 50 passes withou an int. but to me that was one of JC problems. He is so worried about throwing a int. that he does not take chances and instead of on 3rd down dumped off passes rather then going for the first down. I'm not looking for him to play like Farve but there are times when he needs to take more chances with the ball. Some of this probably stems back to Gibbs and his conservative approch to ball protection.

Swarley 03-30-2009 05:17 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;540598]Guys Jason is a decent QB but you can't blame the OLINE every season, Or talent around him because Cooley is a Pro Bowler, Portis is a Pro bowler, Sellars and Samuels aswell!! He has to make plays not the OLINE.[/quote]

The point is how many plays can a QB make if everything around him is falling apart? Suer every once in a while you want to see your QB make a great play when the protection isnt doing it's job but you cant expect that all the time. Just think where Troy Aikmen would be without that Oline and running game.

Boston Brave 03-30-2009 08:07 PM

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Defense figured out the Skins O, at the beginning Zorn was new as a HC. By mid season, teams played Portis or the short pass (<5yds) on 1 and 2 downs, put us in 3rd and 5 to 7 yards.

30gut 03-30-2009 10:03 PM

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[quote=firstdown;540614]I notice the original post mentioned he went 50 passes withou an int. but to me that was one of JC problems. He is so worried about throwing a int. that he does not take chances and instead of on 3rd down dumped off passes rather then going for the first down. I'm not looking for him to play like Farve but there are times when he needs to take more chances with the ball. Some of this probably stems back to Gibbs and his conservative approch to ball protection.[/quote]

Did you watch the game?
I kinda get the feeling you didn't.
JC was throwing the ball downfield.

Zerohero 03-30-2009 10:30 PM

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[quote=30gut;540733]Did you watch the game?
I kinda get the feeling you didn't.
JC was throwing the ball downfield.[/quote]

Oh he threw the ball downfield, just not accurately.

The Goat 03-30-2009 10:33 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;540737]Oh he threw the ball downfield, just not accurately.[/quote]

He completed about two-thirds of his attempts... muff said.

Zerohero 03-30-2009 10:37 PM

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[quote=The Goat;540739]He completed about two-thirds of his attempts... muff said.[/quote]

My bad i was referring to the season, not that actual game.

Ruhskins 03-30-2009 11:04 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;540750]My bad i was referring to the season, not that actual game.[/quote]

You should stick to the thread topic then.

Zerohero 03-30-2009 11:13 PM

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thus the

[quote=Zerohero;540750][B]My bad[/B] [/quote]

Ruhskins 03-30-2009 11:14 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;540767]thus the[/quote]

Just playing man. :food-smil

GTripp0012 03-30-2009 11:18 PM

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[quote=GreekSkin;540682]The point is how many plays can a QB make if everything around him is falling apart? Suer every once in a while you want to see your QB make a great play when the protection isnt doing it's job but you cant expect that all the time. Just think where Troy Aikmen would be without that Oline and running game.[/quote]Well said.

He made a bunch of great plays with the pocket breaking down, but then it would get called back for Casey Rabach being downfield or Stephon Heyer cheap shotting a dude or something.

Oh wait, but a real quarterback like Jay Cutler would have willed the offensive lineman to be more aware of whatever is going on behind him and would have mediated Stephon Heyer's anger in real time. Sure, Campbell's good, but if your Quarterback can't even control the behavior of players around him, is he really worth all that money?

70Chip 03-30-2009 11:19 PM

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[quote=Boston Brave;540713]Defense figured out the Skins O, at the beginning Zorn was new as a HC. By mid season, teams played Portis or the short pass (<5yds) on 1 and 2 downs, put us in 3rd and 5 to 7 yards.[/quote]

Yup. Second verse same as the first.

53Fan 03-30-2009 11:28 PM

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[quote=The Goat;540739]He completed about two-thirds of his attempts... [B]muff[/B] said.[/quote]

Muff said that? Are you sure? I've never heard Muff speak that clearly.

Zerohero 03-30-2009 11:31 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;540769]Just playing man. :food-smil[/quote]

I hear ya bro, by all means i want Campbell to be OUR probowl qb. Compared to most players he's been giving tons of chances albeit the constantly changing offenses. I think my frustration with him is one more bad year and we start all over at QB.

Ruhskins 03-30-2009 11:36 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;540778]I hear ya bro, by all means i want Campbell to be OUR probowl qb. Compared to most players he's been giving tons of chances albeit the constantly changing offenses. [B]I think my frustration with him is one more bad year and we start all over at QB[/B].[/quote]

I would def agree with this. Even those of us who feel JC will be a better QB this year feel that this is his last chance to prove that he's the QB of the future.

SkinDogg 03-30-2009 11:38 PM

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[quote=GreekSkin;540553]Yeah but was it Jasons fault or was it the fact that he was running for his life most of the time? You see what this game shows is that if you can protect him than Jason can make things happen. Not to mention he's quite good even with the occasional pressure at either evading the rusher and passing or running.[/quote]

True, yet they still cry for Colt.

53Fan 03-31-2009 12:03 AM

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Colt does'nt need protection. His arm is his protection.

Ruhskins 03-31-2009 01:14 AM

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[quote=53Fan;540798]Colt does'nt need protection. His arm is his protection.[/quote]

Yup, his arm is adept at protecting him from 3rd stringers and camp scrubs.

:benched:

30gut 03-31-2009 09:55 PM

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[quote=GTripp0012;540771]Well said.

He made a bunch of great plays with the pocket breaking down, but then it would get called back for Casey Rabach being downfield or Stephon Heyer cheap shotting a dude or something.

Oh wait, but a real quarterback like Jay Cutler would have willed the offensive lineman to be more aware of whatever is going on behind him and would have mediated Stephon Heyer's anger in real time. Sure, Campbell's good, but if your Quarterback can't even control the behavior of players around him, is he really worth all that money?[/quote]

:laughing2: Jay Cutler....would have mediated Stephon Heyer's anger in real time

Still laughing, bro
good stuff

Monkeydad 04-01-2009 10:00 AM

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[quote=Eknox;540543]Yeah he looked like a Franchise QB then, unfortunately there was a flip flop on that look in the 2nd half of the season[/quote]


Losing your offensive line will do that to you.

I watched the replay of this game. He DID look great.

Jason will have a great 2009.


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