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OM FIELD: Is Jay Cutler Worth the Risk?
[B]Is Jay Cutler Worth the Risk?[/B]
[I]April 2, 2009[/I] According to multiple sources, the Redskins are actively pursuing a trade for Denver QB Jay Cutler. Yesterday at this time I thought that rumor was off the table and had moved on to other things–the draft, preseason schedule, being just days away from sleeping with the windows open for the two weeks Spring lasts in the D.C. area. As of last night however, the rumor was not only back on the table, but a flashing neon centerpiece. So at the risk of publishing while the news cycle is still spinning and having this all rendered moot before the pixels dry ... Thoughts and observations, shotgun-style: [B]Effect on Jason Campbell[/B] Count on Campbell and/or his agent being on the phone to Cerrato since last night trying to find out whether the buzz has merit. If the Redskins are seriously pursuing Cutler, they have two choices in how to respond: they can lie to his face, or tell him the truth. The former becomes a problem only if the Cutler deal doesn’t materialize and word filters back to Campbell that the Redskins were in fact trying to make the deal. The latter—telling him the truth—would put Campbell in the unenviable and difficult position of knowing his team has lost faith in him. Sound familiar? [B]Effect in the Locker Room[/B] To hear tell, Jason Campbell is popular with and has the confidence of his teammates. So in trying to decide if they should bring in Jay Cutler, the team may or may not want to poll the team leaders in the locker room ... [I][URL="http://www.theomfield.com/2009/04/is-jay-cutler-worth-risk.html"][B]CLICK[/B][/URL] to read more[/I] |
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Link doesn't work for me
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[quote=Mattyk72;541826]Link doesn't work for me[/quote]
There was a typo in the link, here's the corrected one: [url=http://www.theomfield.com/2009/04/is-jay-cutler-worth-risk.html]The Om Field: Is Jay Cutler Worth the Risk?[/url] |
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Great write-up.
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Who plagiarized whom?
[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/redskins-trying-to-land-cutler.html?wprss=redskinsinsider"]Redskins Insider - Redskins Trying to Land Cutler (Update 2)[/URL] :D |
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Part of knowns that this is going to cost a lot to get Cutler but is the cost to much? As for Campbell I am not sold that he will be better then he has been. Do I ever think Campbell will win a Super Bowl my best guess is no. He takes one step forward and two steps back each season. Still would have love to see Him with Holt at WR and a strong vet RT really know if he has what it takes! But we over payed on two players and now we have big holes at RT,OLB and DE. If it wasn't for those needs trading that 1st round pick in this draft would not be that big a thing to get Cutler. Look at our draft a year ago our best player may have been Horton in the 7th round. So to go after Cutler is a real unknown because the cost may be to much and kill what little we have in draft picks to fill hole and needs.
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I would be very unhappy if Cutler came to D.C. Right now we have much more pressing needs and it would be a terrible idea to sacrifice them in order to get a marginally better quarterback. I also think Cutler is an off-the-field liability; he's full of himself, and that does not make good chemistry with the rest of the team. I think Jason Campbell deserves one more year to show us he's the guy, and I think if we upgrade at RT and give him another legitimate receiving threat downfield, he does just fine.
The only thing Jay Cutler may have over Campbell is his out-of-the-pocket ability to throw the ball. He's quoted saying he learned to throw on the run at Vanderbilt (my alma mater), because his o-line was so bad haha. The redskins o-line might not be THAT bad, but it's still shaky enough that having a quarterback with those skills might be important. But that comment also reflects his arrogance.. Bottom line - he's got skills, and probably would be an improvement over campbell, but I like campbell, and I think addressing the needs we already have is a much higher priority. Plus I think Cutler is a whiny b**** |
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You, like many others on this board, called him Culter
I almost believe that was on purpose, but I would've preferred seeing Cult Brennan listed in that manner fix your link homey |
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ESPN, more specifically Trent Dilfer, saying that Zorn would be able to harness him well and create boundaries for him... how much do we want to put him on a leash though if we get him?
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[quote=tryfuhl;541905]
fix your link homey[/quote] He did. |
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[quote=Ruhskins;541827]There was a typo in the link, here's the corrected one:
[URL="http://www.theomfield.com/2009/04/is-jay-cutler-worth-risk.html"]The Om Field: Is Jay Cutler Worth the Risk?[/URL][/quote] Thanks, brother. Managed to eff that up pretty good. Fixed in the OP now as well. |
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[quote=Buster;541945]He did.[/quote]
40 mins after I posted that yes.. thanks for following me around though |
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tryfuhl, are you going to answer any of the questions in your other thread?
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you guys are HIGH!!! Of course he is worth the risk lol... cutler is a FRANCHISE qb and jason is not, no matter what you think. I have always backed campbell and yet he always is just average! It's time to send him somewhere else, who knows he may be a better player somewhere else just not in our system.
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[quote=dmek25;541966]tryfuhl, are you going to answer any of the questions in your other thread?[/quote]
Seriously, I don't think any of us want to hear from him until he starts answering some questions |
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[quote=dmek25;541966]tryfuhl, are you going to answer any of the questions in your other thread?[/quote]
whoa bro sorry, my pager didn't go off edit: wait what is unanswered? tampering thread? I'm so lost bro; help me out and I'll ensure that I don't disappoint this board again. |
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Your thread in the off topic forum where we get to ask you questions.
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[quote=Daseal;541973]Your thread in the off topic forum where we get to ask you questions.[/quote]
hrmm now I see, was coming back to re-edit drinking and the internet - my two weaknesses that seem to hang onto each other |
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[quote=tryfuhl;541975]hrmm
now I see, was coming back to re-edit [B]drinking and the internet[/B] - my two weaknesses that seem to hang onto each other[/quote] So that explains some of your posts. :laughing- |
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hahahaha
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This is a very good summary of the potential impact, though I don't even think Cutler is [I]that[/I] much better than JC:
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040201747.html?hpid=topnews]washingtonpost.com[/url] |
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No Cutler is not worth the risk, give JC an OL and watch the improvement.
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You can't blame the ol all the time jc is just not a playmaker!
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Maybe it's a smoke screen to get other teams higher than the Redskins to jump into a top ten pick so that the Redskins would have a better chance at getting an elite OT to fall their way at 13th...hmmmm?
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[quote=skinsfaninok;542029]You can't blame the ol all the time jc is just not a playmaker![/quote]
Yeah, I'm sure Ramsey and Brunell agree with you 100%. They're still coughing up Fedex field. |
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[quote=Ruhskins;541992]So that explains some of your posts. :laughing-[/quote]
definitely |
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[quote=skinsfaninok;542029]You can't blame the ol all the time jc is just not a playmaker![/quote]
i didn't know playmakers could throw the ball with a big lineman on top of them? |
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[quote=freddyg12;542015]This is a very good summary of the potential impact, though I don't even think Cutler is [I]that[/I] much better than JC:
[URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/02/AR2009040201747.html?hpid=topnews"]washingtonpost.com[/URL][/quote] If he not maybe Denver will accept tradebacks at the end of the '09 season, even steven. |
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I think if you can do it, You just have to to. It will hurt to lose the 13th pick. But we're not that bad off at RT between Heyer and Jansen we should survive there. We could still find a OLB in the 3rd round. And maybe we can get a 2nd or 3rd in the deal. If it all goes well maybe our 1st next is'nt that big of a lose cause of the great season we'll have with Cutler. When denver's D holds opponents to under 21 pts Cutler was almost unbeaten. With our D and Cutler you gotta think that makes us a serious contender.
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I'd trade for Cutler if the price is right and 2 1st round picks aint it! Yes I'd rather have Cutler than JC and yes I think Cutler is a better QB than JC but Denver's asking price is ridiculous. Let JC have 1 final year to prove he's the franchise QB.
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[quote=horse;542050] When denver's D holds opponents to under 21 pts Cutler was almost unbeaten. With our D and Cutler you gotta think that makes us a serious contender.[/quote]
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[quote=horse;542050]I think if you can do it, You just have to to. It will hurt to lose the 13th pick. But we're not that bad off at RT between Heyer and Jansen we should survive there. We could still find a OLB in the 3rd round. And maybe we can get a 2nd or 3rd in the deal. If it all goes well maybe our 1st next is'nt that big of a lose cause of the great season we'll have with Cutler. When denver's D holds opponents to under 21 pts Cutler was almost unbeaten. With our D and Cutler you gotta think that makes us a serious contender.[/quote]
Lol funny, but i higly doubt it. In Denver Cutler had A tall playmaker reciver in Brandom Marshal to throw too; not to mention that also had Royal and That one guy from indy who i cant think of at the moment. Plus didt Denver have a better oline? |
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[quote=Ruhskins;542041]i didn't know playmakers could throw the ball with a big lineman on top of them?[/quote]It doesn't really matter who catches it. It's the feat that counts.
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If we have to give up two first round picks in back to back years then Cutler isn't worth the deal. Keep JC, see if he does improve this season and then go to Brennan and manuever to get McCoy or Bramford in 2010. If next year is a wash give Colt playing time in the last couple games for evaluation purposes. If we knew the cap was a thing of the past for sure, I would resign JC to a 2 year extension, get a whizkid QB in 2010 and we should be OK. The thing that is bothering me is why all the BS with the JC is our boy crap. I know you don't want to announce it to the world if you are going for Cutler, but you don't have to lie and jerk folks around. Just keep mum!!! I don't think our FO and Owner are on the same page and that doesn't bode well for us.
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No no no no
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[quote=GusFrerotte;542205]If we have to give up two first round picks in back to back years then Cutler isn't worth the deal. Keep JC, see if he does improve this season and then go to Brennan and manuever to get McCoy or Bramford in 2010. If next year is a wash give Colt playing time in the last couple games for evaluation purposes. If we knew the cap was a thing of the past for sure, I would resign JC to a 2 year extension, get a whizkid QB in 2010 and we should be OK. The thing that is bothering me is why all the BS with the JC is our boy crap. I know you don't want to announce it to the world if you are going for Cutler, but you don't have to lie and jerk folks around. Just keep mum!!! [B]I don't think our FO and Owner are on the same page[/B] and that doesn't bode well for us.[/quote]
Aren't they one in the same? |
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The price is too steep for Cutler, keep JC. Pick up a QB in the draft next year, if he doesn't perform up to par.
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hey... i'm a noob, here...
sorry, to bump this thread if everyone is sick of talking about this... just wanted to give my 2 cents the cutler risk... i'm not sure if someone has brought this up already, if so, i apologize, but most skins fans i talk to don't even realize that: we already gave the broncos three picks for the first rounder we used on jason in 2005... if we did the same trade that the bears did, we'd,[I] in essence[/I], be trading SIX picks (including THREE first rounders) for cutler and a fifth... i don't care if you're joe-brady-manning-unitas-montana, no one is worth that many draft picks... i recently watched the nfl replay of the games at dallas and at philly... watch those games and tell me that jason doesn't have the potential to be an all-pro QB... i'm predicting a great season for him... thanks... |
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Well Jason Campbell will be breathing a lot
Easier now. That Jay is with the Broncos! |
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[quote=JPPT1974;544648]Well Jason Campbell will be breathing a lot
Easier now. That Jay is with the Broncos![/quote] Friends don't let friends drink and post on thewarpath; you must be a lonely fella |
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