Now who thinks we're winning 9+ games...?
 

I remember a poll on this site asking us onliners what we thought the Skins would finish this season & I was bashed a bit for being pessimistic & stating I thought the Skins would be lucky to finish 8-8 or worse.

8 - 8 would now be the best this team can expect to finish with 2 more loses on the way to the Eagles.

It is clear that Gibbs does not have the players he needs to turn this sinking ship around yet.

I am not blaming Joe & his staff or the players, Gibbs inherited this mess & 1 season is not enough to turn it around.

Let just be honest in the future when we poll in preseason, being hopeful is one thing, but 10 wins would have been a miracle....!

Please don't flame :argue: me on this posting..... TY

I can't fault anyone for thinking 10 wins sounded realistic back in August. On paper the team has a decent amount of talent and the coaching staff is the most experienced in the league. Most of us didn't count on such a rough adjustment period.

Chouns, even with your guarded optimism I don't think even you would have expected us to be 1-4 at this point, am I correct?

Point is I think we all were being honest when we predicted 10 wins, I guess 10 wins is looking more likely... for next season maybe.

I would say we will now win about 6 or 7. I can see us struggling a little bit longer but not much longer. By the end of the season I am sure we could be the best team but too little too late. Giving us once again something to look foreward to next year.

You are correct to a point Mattyk72, but our inability to perform offensively has been the problem now for several seasons & no one has resolved this yet.

I'm just tired of watching poor execution & pathetic production. An offense begins with a stable line & it's abvious that our o-line is not stable. With Jansen things would have been much better, but I'm not sure that it would have constituted into 10 wins...?

This team just needs time, like all great teams this year they are built with time & not in 1 season with a great coach fresh out of retirement.

I just hope Gibbs stays for 4 years....

Chounsman:

The Skins have lost 4 times. Even if you concede the 2 games to the Eagles - which I am not yet ready to do - that gives them 6 losses. So 10-6 would still be the "best the team can expect" under your scenario.

You are ABSOLUTELY correct that this team has holes in it and that Gibbs inherited those holes and cannot plug all of them in a single season.

I had the Skins at 10-6 for the year before the season started. I had the Browns down as a win but I had the Ravens as a loss so I still think that 9-7 is possible. But my crystal ball is getting cloudier and cloudier as the days go by...

The sadest thing of late is I'm actually taking losing easier than in the past. I'm starting to forget what it meant to be a Redskins fan....? How pathetic!!!!

I'm no fair weather fan, but I need to just feel that we are playing competitive.

I'm an asst baseball coach for the 10-12 age group & I never let them play uncompetitive ball, no matter what, so I take losing pretty personal :(

We will win 9 games!!!!! It might be over two seasons but...

No, redwagon, we're gonna win at least 10 next season. I'm really proud of this defense, just can't wait 'till LaVar comes back

This year we are finished because the O-line can't execute a running play to save there lives. The ravens were in the back field before Portis barely had the ball in his hands a lot of times. If we can't run the ball we can't do anything offensively.

9+ wins while difficult isn't impossible. We could be like the 1992 Chargers who started 1-4 and finished 11-5 with a wild card win, or the 2001 Patriots who started 1-3 and finished 11-5 with the Lombardi Trophy

I know, we're already penciled in to lose two to the Eagles and one to the Packers. But we we're penciled in to beat the Giants at home and the Browns, but we lost. So who's to say we can't win against Philly and GB? That's why they play the game

[QUOTE=ChounsMan]You are correct to a point Mattyk72, but our inability to perform offensively has been the problem now for several seasons & no one has resolved this yet.

I'm just tired of watching poor execution & pathetic production. An offense begins with a stable line & it's abvious that our o-line is not stable. With Jansen things would have been much better, but I'm not sure that it would have constituted into 10 wins...?

This team just needs time, like all great teams this year they are built with time & not in 1 season with a great coach fresh out of retirement.

I just hope Gibbs stays for 4 years....[/QUOTE]

Very good comment on the O-line. We have, arguably one of the best O-line coaches ever. With Brunell in there, Jansen's absence is a huge weakness for us.

We don't have O-linemen who play with any attitude, though. Buges tried to fire them up for the year by giving them the name Dirtbags, but they're not living up to that smashmouth name. Randy Thomas is smashmouth, and he's the only one on the line with any attitude. What good are Dockery's 340 pounds if he's as tame as a blind man's labrador. Samuels? Yea, he's pass blocking a lot better this year, but he's not tearing it up like Ogden. I suspect Mark Wilson has more attitude than Kenyatta & Ray - put him in at RT.

portis isnt makin them look too good either...

Jamaican'Skin:
No doubt we will win a ton in the upcoming year. Our defense is strong even without Lavar, Barrow... I never said we wouldn't win more than 9 games in two seasons but I know we won't win less!!!

I could still see us winning 8 games, just because or defense is rediculous. Our offense couldnt score a touchdown on a Varisty Football Team. No points = No wins. If somehow we just start clicking on offense, which I doubt is going to happen, I think anythings possible. Right now, with our offense, I'll be happy with 2 wins, cause thats all we deserve if we play like that.

Remember this: In '98, the Skins started 0-7 and ended up 7-9 (I think)....and won the division the following year. And we all remember starting 0-5 and finishing 8-8 under Marty. Hall Of Fame coach Joe Gibbs is better than both Marty and Norv, so 9 or 10 wins are still possible. Yeah, at this point, 7-9 or 8-8 is more of a realistic thought, but I'm still hoping....

Yeah I still say 8-8 maybe 7-9...which isn't that bad...Gibbs went 7-9 before...he's been 8-8 before too...Schottenheimer was 8-8 in his first (and stupidly only) year here.

The Skins need that one big play, like the LaVar INT return for a touchdown against Carolina in 2001

If one of those interceptions yesterday had been returned for a TD that would have been huge.

it was 6-10 in 1998

I really wanted to make the playoffs this year more than anything. Honestly all I can hope for now, is for us to hit that stride and start winning alot of football games and be at least respectable. How you finsih one season, defintley carries over to your play the next season.

welcome to reality redskins fans

say hello to another top 5 pick whoooohooooo

D this year, O next year?... unless brunell gets kicked and the oline gets better...

If our offense was even halfway decent this year we would be 4-1, maybe 5-0. God I'm so shocked at how bad they have been, I thought that they were gonna carry this team when the defense had time to gel.

It is week six and I can't believe what I'm reading. If many of you believe that Ramsey can come in and get this offense going like Roethlisberger is doing for the Steelers, then try to least be optimistic about this season. Aren't you tired of repeating the same line for the last 12 seasons? Next year we'll do this or that. The reality is tommorrow isn't promised to this team and if they don't play well from this point out what makes us sure that Gregg Williams or Joe Gibbs will stay for next year? Contracts are made to be broken and if the talent on this team is not responding to Gibbs's leadership it is going to be very Difficult to bring new players in and produce with great success.

Well, I'm no QUITTER. I said 9 wins in the poll. I still feel 9 is very possible. Sure, the offense has to find its way. That is still very, very possible. Don't QUIT on the team when the going gets tought, guys. Hang in there. LONG way to go. a lot can happen.

tampa switched QBs and won, steelers had an injured maddox, went young and won 3 straight (wtf would SD want rivers over roth? i was confused during the draft and i'm even more confused now ;))

gibbs has a scrambling QB that he's told not to scramble or fix broken plays, and who isn't capable of being deep & accurate consistantly enough to matter, so he lives off 4 yard passes... shove ramsey in, let him get a full week at #1 and a full game... hopefully mark has to leave or ramsey gets a start after the bye... i don't see brunell throwing up an awesome game though... besides one quarter in dallas, i haven't seen anything in 5 games to garner any hope he can win... :(

[QUOTE=denim_monger]welcome to reality redskins fans

say hello to another top 5 pick whoooohooooo[/QUOTE]

Who is this F-ing guy?

5 wins tops bank on it losers whoohooo!

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]Who is this F-ing guy?[/QUOTE]

Well just look where he's from. He obviously is married to his toothless sister and his mother is bearing his children...