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Redskin Warrior 12-23-2009 05:04 PM

Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[url=http://www.betfirms.com/panthers-williams-trade-1223/]DeAngelo Williams Final Days as Carolina Panther?[/url]

First of all, I believe we should stockpile draft picks I'm not at all saying we should trade for Williams just simply what is he worth base on his production? Schefter also reported this on ESPN.com but I don't have ESPN Insider.

Nomad 12-23-2009 05:13 PM

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a low first rounder a high second, but since RB come a dime a dozen, I wouldn't trade now more than a mid-second for him..... cause there be studs coming out of college we can get in the second........ J. Best from Cali, I like him as a game changer

Chico23231 12-23-2009 05:17 PM

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I like him, but 27 the start of next season...2nd round may get him, but Id say keep it draft a younger guy.

Redskin Warrior 12-23-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=Chico23231;645363]I like him, but 27 the start of next season...2nd round may get him, but Id say keep it draft a younger guy.[/quote]

He has low mileage tho

skinsfan69 12-23-2009 06:50 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
Noooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

budw38 12-23-2009 06:51 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
Maybe M. Kelly and a 4th rd pick in 2011 ? Not that I think they take that ... or Betts and Kelly ?

LMsexyAO 12-23-2009 07:00 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
To be honest, 90% of the running backs in this league aren't worth trading for. Too easy to replace and don't hold up long enough.

SkinzzFan 12-23-2009 08:04 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=LMsexyAO;645386]To be honest, 90% of the running backs in this league aren't worth trading for. Too easy to replace and don't hold up long enough.[/quote]

Amen.

Paintrain 12-23-2009 08:23 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
Carlos Rogers and a 2nd round pick? How ironic would it be if Shanahan comes in and we trade a CB and a pick for another team's franchise.

Seriously, I wouldn't mind Williams but I'd rather not trade any picks for him.

skinsfaninok 12-23-2009 08:44 PM

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I would say a 2nd RD, I heard they were about to clean house.... Peppers, Williams and even S.Smith may all be dealt..

MTK 12-23-2009 08:46 PM

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Some of us never learn.

:nono:

skinsfaninok 12-23-2009 08:46 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
There's only 2 RB's I would even want to trade for (A.D) and C.Johnson

53Fan 12-23-2009 08:50 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
He's probably worth a 2nd rounder....but not ours. :)

Hog1 12-23-2009 09:16 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
I would need to consult with Bruce first..........our new GM
He has a plan

FRPLG 12-23-2009 09:59 PM

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I wouldn't trade a 1st for Jim Brown in his prime. RBs are too easy to plug and play. A good line and decent RB = 1300 yards and 15 TDs. A good RB and a decent line = 1300yards and 15 TDs. The problem is it is about 1/5 as easy to put together a decent RB since you don't have to actually assemble one. A line on the other hand takes 5 guys. And I haven't even brought up that there are a ton of decent backs in the league and available in the draft every year. The main distinction between a great deal of them is the ability to simply stay healthy for a 5 year period.

44Deezel 12-23-2009 10:05 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=Redskin Warrior;645357][url=http://www.betfirms.com/panthers-williams-trade-1223/]DeAngelo Williams Final Days as Carolina Panther?[/url]

First of all, I believe we should stockpile draft picks I'm not at all saying we should trade for Williams just simply what is he worth base on his production? Schefter also reported this on ESPN.com but I don't have ESPN Insider.[/quote]

Cooley for Williams straight up!

tryfuhl 12-23-2009 10:11 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
We have a near beginning of the round pick so I definitely wouldn't do a 2nd round. I'll second the guy who said Jahvid Best should get a look; but I haven't watched enough teams to know who else is out there.

mlmdub130 12-23-2009 10:25 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;645435]We have a near beginning of the round pick so I definitely wouldn't do a 2nd round. I'll second the guy who said Jahvid Best should get a look; but I haven't watched enough teams to know who else is out there.[/quote]

there is a lot this is a really talented offensive draft at almost all positions, i would say qb and rb have to be the deepest they have been in a while, there will be great players at both positions into the 4th round

Redskin Warrior 12-23-2009 10:55 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;645409]Some of us never learn.

:nono:[/quote]

A lot of y'all replies are like i was lobbying for Williams to be brought in but that not what i asked. i simply asked with what is his worth or trade value on the market. It's hard to judge IMO because he's always split carries with another RB plus they obviously thought he wouldn't be the featured back when they drafted Stewart & placing him on the trading block now.

SBXVII 12-23-2009 11:14 PM

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Here we go again....same ole, same ole....

FRPLG 12-23-2009 11:43 PM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;645456]A lot of y'all replies are like i was lobbying for Williams to be brought in but that not what i asked. i simply asked with what is his worth or trade value on the market. It's hard to judge IMO because he's always split carries with another RB plus they obviously thought he wouldn't be the featured back when they drafted Stewart & placing him on the trading block now.[/quote]

He's worth a late 3rd rounder.

Eknox 12-24-2009 12:22 AM

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I wouldn't do anything higher than a 3rd maybe 4th or stand pat and draft one of the many RB's coming out of college ..

EARTHQUAKE2689 12-24-2009 12:40 AM

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In Madden a 1st rounder, real life late second early third

JGisLordOfTheRings 12-24-2009 12:50 AM

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He is worth nothing, wtf is this

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Pocket$ $traight 12-24-2009 01:05 AM

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[quote=FRPLG;645470]He's worth a late 3rd rounder.[/quote]

This is great! We have people who think we can get a 3rd rounder for Portis but Williams is worth a late 3rd rounder???

I would trade Cooley and or Portis and Cooley straight up for him but it will never happen so it really doesn't matter.

Skins4L 12-24-2009 02:35 AM

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DEFINETLY TRADE FOR WILLIAMS!!!!

Hes the explosive player all year i was saying to buddies i wish wed trade for.. him or Chris Johnson.....speakin as if it would never happen.. AND NOW HES AVAILABLE?... Id trade picks for him all day.

Sure well have to FULLY fix the OL... but that can be done too.
Were the perfect team for him right now... Especially with Shanahan on the horizon.

But D Williams would be a MONSTER PICKUP... Thing is this time we dont have a Champ Bailey to deal.

And i wouldnt wanna give up Cooley... id like to have both, shit.

MTK 12-24-2009 09:21 AM

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;645456][B]A lot of y'all replies are like i was lobbying for Williams to be brought in but that not what i asked. i simply asked with what is his worth or trade value on the market.[/B] It's hard to judge IMO because he's always split carries with another RB plus they obviously thought he wouldn't be the featured back when they drafted Stewart & placing him on the trading block now.[/quote]

I hear ya, but people are naturally going to take it to the next level and wonder if we should trade for him.

Son Of Man 12-24-2009 10:04 AM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
Carlos Rogers for D. Williams

or

Jason Campbell and a 5th for D. Williams and a 3rd.

Running backs are always available in the later rounds of the draft (however their blitz pick-up is the problem).

KLHJ2 12-24-2009 10:55 AM

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In all honesty they are better off keeping him. They might get a 3rd for him like others have said, but he is a proven commodity to his team. Getting rid of him may end up backfiring in their face, especially if they do not use one of their picks on another back. I can understand wanting to get better in other areas of your team, but chances are you will not get in return what his value is to the team.

Edit: Yes I know that they have Stewart waiting in the wings, but you have to have 2 good backs these days.

FRPLG 12-24-2009 11:03 AM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=Pocket$ $traight;645478]This is great! We have people who think we can get a 3rd rounder for Portis but Williams is worth a late 3rd rounder???

I would trade Cooley and or Portis and Cooley straight up for him but it will never happen so it really doesn't matter.[/quote]

There are lots of people who are clueless. We couldn't get more than a 5th for Portis. And I wouldn't trade Cooley for a RB. I would trade Portis straight up for him though.

KLHJ2 12-24-2009 11:08 AM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=FRPLG;645570]There are lots of people who are clueless. We couldn't get more than a 5th for Portis. And I wouldn't trade Cooley for a RB. [B]I would trade Portis straight up for him though[/B].[/quote]

Unfortunately Carolina is not dumb enough to take that deal.

SolidSnake84 12-24-2009 11:34 AM

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Portis wont be part of the trade agreement that would bring Williams here. Portis wont get us a high enough pick... Does anybody know what they are shopping Williams for yet?

FRPLG 12-24-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=Angry;645575]Unfortunately Carolina is not dumb enough to take that deal.[/quote]

Al Davis could make that deal. That's about it.

FRPLG 12-24-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;645578]Portis wont be part of the trade agreement that would bring Williams here. Portis wont get us a high enough pick... Does anybody know what they are shopping Williams for yet?[/quote]

Prob a #1. They won't get it unless a donkey like Davis gives it to them.

joethiesmanfan 12-24-2009 02:28 PM

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I disagree most running backs are not the same. There is an unmeasured quality in some. The panthers would be stupid to trade Williams. Stewart has fumblitis and Sutton does not have that quality. He is like a Ganther or a Mason. In other words "hot garbage". Rock is way better than Mason or Ganther. I don't get this plug an play scenario, show me one example please.

joethiesmanfan 12-24-2009 02:30 PM

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Williams is not on Portis level. You guys underestimate alot of athletes in the NFL, I have noticed that. I disagree!!!

GusFrerotte 12-26-2009 09:10 PM

Re: Rumor: Panthers Could Trade RB Williams!!! What Is He Worth?
 
Come on now bub!!!!!!! Good young RBs will be coming out of the draft like water. WE can draft a starter even in the 3rd round if we scouted well. Use all $$$$$$ allocated for FA on a younger linemen or CB coming off his first contract. No giving up picks anymore!!!!!!!!

Redskin Warrior 12-27-2009 04:37 PM

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Stewart rushed for 206 yards against the Giants the dude is a beast this very well could have decided his fate today.

diehardskin2982 12-28-2009 03:41 PM

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Williams for Cooley straight up

SOUL-SKINS 12-28-2009 04:16 PM

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[quote=diehardskin2982;647056]Williams for Cooley straight up[/quote]

I hate to say this but......i'd do it.


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