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[URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2010/02/24/wednesday-february-24-bruce-allen-talks-about-the-combine/"]Matt Terl blogged about getting ready to go to Indy[/URL] for the Combine and here are a couple quotes from Bruce Allen's take:
[QUOTE]But if [Matt Terl is] still working out how I can best handle the Combine experience, Allen has no such concerns.

"Scott [Campbell, director of player personnel] has managed to put together quite a tight agenda for me," Allen said, holding up an inch-thick three-ring binder. "I don't know how specific you want me to be, but ... in the evenings, it's gonna be mostly player interviews. During the day, you're inside the dome watching the players work out. And in between everything, we're meeting with a lot of agents who have our players to discuss, what tenders we might be putting on them, where they stand on our current roster. And, really, it becomes a twenty-hour-a-day football fest, so to speak."

This is also, to a certain extent, the true start of the 2010 offseason. "It's the first time I'm gonna be able to speak to some of the agents about our players," Allen said, "and -- obviously -- they're curious about what tenders we're gonna put on and what Coach Shanahan and the coaches' visions are for their clients."

So Allen and Shanahan will be working not only on their draft class, but laying the groundwork for the veteran portion of the offseason as well. "We're gonna have some vacancies," Allen said bluntly, "and there's gonna be good competitions. All the coaches, that's what they're looking for, and I think the players will embrace it. Now, not all the players that were on the team last year are gonna be here this year, but -- once again -- that's not unique to the Redskins. We're looking for players who wanna get better, because we have coaches who wanna help them get better."[/QUOTE]

Nothing earth shattering in this quote, but as I have said before, every quote from Bruce Allen has the right tone, and good spin.

Here is a good article that breaks down Combine results by position:
[url=http://www.milehighreport.com/2010/2/21/1320290/mhr-draft-resources-know-your-nfl]MHR Draft Resources -- Know Your NFL Combine - Mile High Report[/url]

Does anyone have any other good Combine links or discussions?

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Nice, I came back to start this thread but it's already here.

Haven't looked a lot but of course there's the NFL.com coverage, they'll have the workouts, which start Saturday and last through Tuesday online to view. Shouldn't be much news until then I wouldn't think.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/combine"]NFL.com - Combine[/URL]

Saturday, Feb. 27 Group 1 (OL, SPECIALISTS)
Group 2 (OL)
Group 3 (TE)
Sunday, Feb. 28 Group 4 (QB, WR)
Group 5 (QB, WR)
Group 6 (RB)
Monday, March 1 Group 7 (DL)
Group 8 (DL)
Group 9 (LB)
Tuesday, March 2 Group 10 (DB)
Group 11 (DB)

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Glad you started this thread. This will be a key week ahead

[url=http://www.nflcombine.net/]Home | NFL Scouting Combine[/url]

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Nice kick-off C! This thread should be rockin' the next few days. Looking forward to any and all reports. Anyone else excited? :woot:

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[quote=53Fan;665828]Anyone else excited? :woot:[/quote]

heck yes! i wish that bradford and clausen were throwing though.

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Yeah, we got pro days not too far off though in March.. I think Clausen's is the 19th and Bradford won't be doing his but will have a personal one on the 25th I think

gives us plenty of time to look at the other QBs and positions

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This is probably dumb, but I am looking forward to the rumor mills. Once you get all those agents and GM's and coaches in the same bldg for a couple of days, we ought to start hearing some REALISTIC options and trade scenarios. That would be great.

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Colt McCoy and CJ Spiller are two guys I'm very interested in seeing (among others of course)

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Nevermind...Colt reportedly won't throw at the combine now. Dr. Andrews says he's not ready

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665859]This is probably dumb, but I am looking forward to the rumor mills. Once you get all those agents and GM's and coaches in the same bldg for a couple of days, we ought to start hearing some REALISTIC options and trade scenarios. That would be great.[/quote]

its funny you say that, because i also really enjoy all of the [B]actual[/B] trade possibilities that bubble up to the surface as the combine, franchise tag, draft deadlines approach. i feel as though there are lots of people on this board that really dislike all of the rumors etc., but not me.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665859]This is probably dumb, but I am looking forward to the rumor mills. Once you get all those agents and GM's and coaches in the same bldg for a couple of days, we ought to start hearing some REALISTIC options and trade scenarios. That would be great.[/quote]

I'll have my ears to the ground (or whatever the expression is)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;665859]This is probably dumb, but I am looking forward to the rumor mills. Once you get all those agents and GM's and coaches in the same bldg for a couple of days, we ought to start hearing some REALISTIC options and trade scenarios. That would be great.[/quote]

I like the word "realistic" enough emphasis cannot be placed on it. Good thread that will begin to gain traction in a few days. I look for Allen to keep a lid on his true intentions, but speculation is going to run rampant as a result.

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With McCoy not throwing, which I think is a bit disconcerting I'm curious to see if a guy like Jevan Snead can now take advantage and move up

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[quote=SmootSmack;665904]With McCoy not throwing, which I think is a bit disconcerting I'm curious to see if a guy like Jevan Snead can now take advantage and move up[/quote]

I thought he was throwing. This would have been a good opportunity for him to gain some ground. That's too bad.

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Random Thought: I must say that I agree with Holmgren on this one (about to p QB's not throwing in the combine). I understand if a QB is hurt, but I hate this whole "only throwing at the school's pro day" deal.

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_browns_president_mik_1.html]Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren says it's a mistake for QBs not to throw at NFL combine | cleveland.com[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;665945]Random Thought: I must say that I agree with Holmgren on this one (about to p QB's not throwing in the combine). I understand if a QB is hurt, but I hate this whole "only throwing at the school's pro day" deal.

[URL="http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_browns_president_mik_1.html"]Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren says it's a mistake for QBs not to throw at NFL combine | cleveland.com[/URL][/quote]Let's see, I'm Bradford or Clausen, most if not all projections have both gone before pick # 10 = 8 figure payday. Why risk a sub-par performance, dropping, and losing millions, so Mike Holgren (or any other GM/coach) can be happy. Is Holmgren going to pass on either one at # 6...I don't think so.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;665949]Let's see, I'm Bradford or Clausen, most if not all projections have both gone before pick # 10 = 8 figure payday. Why risk a sub-par performance, dropping, and losing millions, so Mike Holgren (or any other GM/coach) can be happy. Is Holmgren going to pass on either one at # 6...I don't think so.[/quote]

Why would they have a subpar performance if they are supposed to be that good? Just because you don't have a choreographed pro day at their school?

I know that this will never change, so I'm not going to bother making an argument for it, but I just feel they should be required to throw at the combine just like all the other players.

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[quote=SmootSmack;665879]Nevermind...Colt reportedly won't throw at the combine now.[B] Dr. Andrews [/B]says he's not ready[/quote]

I'd like to see this guys house. It has to be huge considering his standing in the medical community and the number of high profile clients he gets to work on.

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[quote=SmootSmack;665904]With McCoy not throwing, which I think is a bit disconcerting I'm curious to see if a guy like [B]Jevan Snead[/B] can now take advantage and move up[/quote]

You've got some man-love for this kid. I'm just nowhere close to sold on him. Workouts are great and all, but on the field of play in a season where he was supposed to emerge as a high first round pick, he totally flopped.

That said, if Smoot gets released and we end up with Snead, we may need to figure out how to incorporate his name into your username. :)

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[quote=Ruhskins;665945]Random Thought: I must say that I agree with Holmgren on this one (about to p QB's not throwing in the combine). I understand if a QB is hurt, but I hate this whole "only throwing at the school's pro day" deal.

[url=http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_browns_president_mik_1.html]Cleveland Browns President Mike Holmgren says it's a mistake for QBs not to throw at NFL combine | cleveland.com[/url][/quote]

I agree with you and Holmgren. Leaving injured players aside, as a pro-to-be you should desire an opportunity to strut your stuff. And having players work in an unfamiliar environment with unfamiliar teammates is what coaches naturally want, given that it simulates some NFL scenarios and is more genuine than a choreographed pro day.

I understand The Great Sammy Baugh's logic regarding risking huge sums of money, but as it is the QB scene at the combine is lame.

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[quote=GMScud;665966]You've got some man-love for this kid. I'm just nowhere close to sold on him. Workouts are great and all, but on the field of play in a season where he was supposed to emerge as a high first round pick, he totally flopped.

That said, if Smoot gets released and we end up with Snead, we may need to figure out how to incorporate his name into your username. :)[/quote]
I have some suggestions

because Snead didn't do so well this past year "SneadLack"

or because choosing a QB at any spot means we won't use all of our picks on O-Line and we'll be doomed you can go "SneadSacked"

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But basically we won't have the "top 4" QBs throwing

top 4 in quotes because Tebow is still learning how to throw the ball and he's still a media darling at the time

what was LeFevour's excuse?

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[quote=Lotus;665970]I agree with you and Holmgren. Leaving injured players aside, as a pro-to-be you should desire an opportunity to strut your stuff. And having players work in an unfamiliar environment with unfamiliar teammates is what coaches naturally want, given that it simulates some NFL scenarios and is more genuine than a choreographed pro day.

I understand The Great Sammy Baugh's logic regarding risking huge sums of money, but [B]as it is the QB scene at the combine is lame[/B].[/quote]

So far I've read the following QB's will not throw at the combine.

Bradford
Clausen
McCoy
Tebow
LeFevour

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[quote=tryfuhl;666002]But basically we won't have the "top 4" QBs throwing

top 4 in quotes because Tebow is still learning how to throw the ball and he's still a media darling at the time

[B]what was LeFevour's excuse[/B]?[/quote]

He says he will focus solely on throwing on his Pro Day. He wants to focus on other things at the combine. It seems most QB's this year want to be more ready and comfortable by throwing in their own enviroment with some of their own receivers.

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Yeah, I get that, but they're going to have new receivers wherever they get drafted, but not hurting draft stock is the goal.

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[quote=53Fan;666004]So far I've read the following QB's will not throw at the combine.

Bradford
Clausen
McCoy
Tebow
LeFevour[/quote]

Arguably the best QB's in the draft.

Now this means that Robinson, Kafka, and Pikes draft stocks will increase just by them participating in passing drills, as long as they don't really screw their throws.

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[quote=53Fan;666004]So far I've read the following QB's will not throw at the combine.

Bradford
Clausen
McCoy
Tebow
LeFevour[/quote]

I'm surprised that Tebow isn't throwing, he seems like he's on a mission to prove to scouts that he can play QB at the pro level.

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[quote=WaldSkins;666017]I'm surprised that Tebow isn't throwing, he seems like he's on a mission to prove to scouts that he can play QB at the pro level.[/quote]
He's still working on his mechanics/new throwing motion/timing, etc

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[quote=tryfuhl;666000]I have some suggestions

because Snead didn't do so well this past year "SneadLack"

or because choosing a QB at any spot means we won't use all of our picks on O-Line and we'll be doomed you can go "SneadSacked"[/quote]

LOL. I find Jevan Snead intriguing more than anything else. I'm not any sort of huge fan of his per se.

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[quote=WaldSkins;666017]I'm surprised that Tebow isn't throwing, he seems like he's on a mission to prove to scouts that he can play QB at the pro level.[/quote]

Both he and his parents are missionaries, so I'm not surprised.



:tongue

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Probably a wise move by Tebow. He's already under one of the more intense microscopes we've seen in recent years. A bad combine and that's all we would be hearing about until his pro day.

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[quote=SmootSmack;666025]LOL. I find Jevan Snead intriguing more than anything else. [B]I'm not any sort of huge fan of his per se.[/B][/quote]

Otherwise Chase Daniel would be extremely jealous :)

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Some early reports from the Combine re: measurables

Charles Brown-6'5", 303 lbs, 35 1/4 arm length
Bryan Bulaga-6'5" (that's all the info I have on right now)
Trent Williams-6'4", 314 lbs, 34 1/4 arm length
Bruce Cambpell- 6'6", 314 lbs, 36 1/14 arm length
Jared Veldheer-6'8", 312 lbs, 33 arm length
Anthony Davis-6'5", 323 lbs, 34 arm length
Russell Okung-6'5", 306 lbs, 36 arm length

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Veldheer is tall, but weird that he would have the shortest arm length isn't it?

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[quote=SmootSmack;666094] Jared Veldheer-6'8", 312 lbs, 33 arm length
[/quote]

i have read ad nausea about all of the guys on that list except for him. anyone have any info on him? projected draft position? system he played in previosly? injuries?

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(DREAMING) We trade back and are able to pick up 3 guys on the list RO, BC & CB wouldn't life be great.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;665949]Let's see, I'm Bradford or Clausen, most if not all projections have both gone before pick # 10 = 8 figure payday. Why risk a sub-par performance, dropping, and losing millions, so Mike Holgren (or any other GM/coach) can be happy. Is Holmgren going to pass on either one at # 6...I don't think so.[/quote]

Plus the combine is the most over rated event in general to begin with. IMO biggest value are the player interviews, getting to know the person, character, and personality you cant get on tape. Hopefully that stuff isnt too scripted.

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[quote=johno;666100]i have read ad nausea about all of the guys on that list except for him. anyone have any info on him? projected draft position? system he played in previosly? injuries?[/quote]

[url=http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=3758]Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale[/url]

[url=http://walterfootball.com/draft2010OT.php]WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Draft: Offensive Tackle Rankings[/url]

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I want to know all the information about Mike Iupati. I think he could play Tackle in the NFL.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;666174]I want to know all the information about Mike Iupati. I think he could play Tackle in the NFL.[/quote]

Overview
Slipping through the cracks due to questions about his ability to qualify academically after moving to the United States at 14, Iupati quietly signed with Idaho and has since emerged as one of the more intriguing big men in this draft. Iupati, who entered his senior season with only 20 career starts, did not allow a single sack in 2009, earning consensus All-American honors -- the first Vandal to gain such attention since defensive end Ryan Phillips was recognized in 1995.

While all of his 34 career starts have come at left guard, some feel his ultimate pro position could lie outside at offensive tackle or even as a defensive tackle. His unique combination of size, strength and quick feet could be enough to warrant a top 50 selection.

Analysis
Pass blocking: Good initial quickness off the snap. Provides a significant jolt to the defender with his punch. Too high in his pass protection but has the strong hands to latch on to the defender and ride him throughout the play. Good balance and lateral agility to slide with the defender and remain square. Can get himself in trouble with leverage by playing too high. Long arms and great lower strength to lock out. Rarely takes a step back even against a powerful bull rush, but this could be an area of concern against NFL defensive linemen, especially when Iupati fails to move his feet. Has developed into a savvy blocker. Looks to help out his teammates when not covered. Wants to hit someone.

Run Blocking: Can dominate as a run blocker due to his mass and rare upper-body strength. Provides an explosive initial pop that often knocks the defender back. Has to do a better job of latching on, as he'll knock his opponent back only to see him regroup and get back into the play. Very good drive blocker when he plays with leverage and keeps his hands inside. Can physically remove the defender from the hole. Looks to eliminate more than one defender on the play and will release to the second level. Good effort downfield.

Pulling/trapping: Surprisingly agile in getting out and blocking at the second level. Good body control and straight-line speed for a player of his size. Can re-adjust in space to hit the linebacker. Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.

Initial Quickness: Good initial quickness off the snap in pass protection. Even on the rare occasions when beaten off the snap, his long arms and wide-body make it difficult for defenders (including blitzing linebackers) to sneak through his gap. When beaten by quicker defensive tackles in the running game, has the agility and long arms to catch them as they slide by, typically knocking them down and pancaking them.

Downfield: Intimidating presence on the move. Good athleticism and balance for a man his size and can redirect to make the effective block when he gets close. Will misjudge angles at times, and miss his intended target. When he does so, rather than turn to stand helplessly around the pile, he moves on to the next target. Good effort to block downfield.

Intangibles: Made significant progress over the past two seasons and appears to be just scratching the surface of his potential. Size and athleticism combination enough that some will view him as a better offensive tackle or even defensive tackle prospect. Born in American Samoa and moved to the United States at 14. Began learning English (and football) at that time. Has only played football since high school. Signed with Idaho after bigger programs had concerns about his ability to qualify academically. Voted team captain by his peers for 2009.

2008 Season
Second team All-WAC. Had off-season shoulder surgery … returned to the lineup against Western Michigan … went on to start eight of the 10 games in which he played.

2007 Season
Cemented a starting role last spring and became in impact player on the line for the Vandals … started all 12 games at left guard.

2006 Season
Saw action in a backup role.

2005 Season
Focused on academics as a non-qualifier as English was not his native language.

High School
Graduated from Anaheim's Western High School in 2005 … team captain … earned all-state and all-conference honors … also competed in wrestling and track.

Personal
Son of Belinda and Aposetolo Iupati … born May 12, 1987 in American Samoa … majoring in Justice Studies.