Anyone like Blaine Gabbert, he just declared for the draft
 

[url=http://www.mutigers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/gabbert_blaine00.html]Player Bio: Blaine Gabbert - MISSOURI OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE[/url]

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/news/story?id=5985219]Blaine Gabbert of Missouri Tigers declaring for NFL draft - ESPN[/url]

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Yes .. I saw this guy at the Bowl game out here in Tempe .. he is the real deal and looks like a stud QB

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Personally reminds me of Alex Smith with slightly better physical tools. I'm glad he's declaring as it pushes everyone else in the draft back one spot. From the first round QB we target to the 3-4 LB or DE in the 2nd round.

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I've watched him play quite a bit, he's a decent player more likely a 2nd or 3rd round QB

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[quote=skinsfaninok;774892]I've watched him play quite a bit, he's a decent player more likely a 2nd or 3rd round QB[/quote]

I don't know man. I mean I'm not to high on him either but right now he's projected to go in the top 10. Maybe even as high as the top 5.

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Yes he is the 2 best Qb in the draft and is the only other QB besides Luck that is worthy of being drafted at the #10 spot. Unfortunately i dont see either of them being there at 10. That slot is too high for Newton, Mallet, or Locker.

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Skins have heavily scouted Ponder this year, much to my delight. I'd like to see thm take him in the 2nd round. The could even trade down a few spots and probably still get him

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[quote=skinsfaninok;774892]I've watched him play quite a bit, he's a decent player more likely a 2nd or 3rd round QB[/quote]

If your right, that would mean increased value.

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I like Ponder too, bias because im an FSU fan, he just has to be more durable and take less hits.

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[quote=SmootSmack;774937]Skins have heavily scouted Ponder this year, much to my delight. I'd like to see thm take him in the 2nd round. The could even trade down a few spots and probably still get him[/quote]

So you're picturing a Grossman-Smith-Ponder group? Interesting. I'll hold you to that prediction and if you're wrong, well lets just say that you're going to be missing an "o" key on your keyboard. Cross me again and I'll go after the "c" key.

Still it looks like the Skins are trying to make their QB position the island of misfit toys.

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I would love to get him in the early 2nd but idk about 10

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[quote=SmootSmack;774937]Skins have heavily scouted Ponder this year, much to my delight. I'd like to see thm take him in the 2nd round. The could even trade down a few spots and probably still get him[/quote]

SS we need to talk... Ponder is a bum

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Gabbert is not going to be available in the 2nd round. So many teams need QB's. AZ, MN, Carolina, Skins, possible Cinci, Buffalo, Raiders. A lot of qbs will be drafted this year. He is going to move up draft boards as it keeps getting closer.

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Luck is a stud and nobody is even close to his talent, tonight we are the seeing the next great future NFL QB. A superstar.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;774941]So you're picturing a Grossman-Smith-Ponder group? Interesting. I'll hold you to that prediction and if you're wrong, well lets just say that you're going to be missing an "o" key on your keyboard. Cross me again and I'll go after the "c" key.

Still it looks like the Skins are trying to make their QB position the island of misfit toys.[/quote]

Not predicting that by any means. Still early

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[quote=DGreene28;774943]SS we need to talk... Ponder is a bum[/quote]

Well he's no Chase Daniel...but I'd hardly call him a bum

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If we stay at 10 overall I'd take Gabbert. I'd prefer to trade down, though. McShay's latest mock has Gabbert in the top 5.

Luck tonight was absolutely phenomenal. What a talent. Sheesh.

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[quote=GMScud;774963]Luck tonight was absolutely phenomenal. What a talent. Sheesh.[/quote]

I would pull a Ditka for him if he comes out and Carolina is stupid enough to trade. Trade this years 1st, 2nd, McNabb, Haynesworth and if that's not enough, throw in next years 1st. This guy is the next Brady/Manning.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;774965]I would pull a Ditka for him if he comes out and Carolina is stupid enough to trade. Trade this years 1st, 2nd, McNabb, Haynesworth and if that's not enough, throw in next years 1st. This guy is the next Brady/Manning.[/quote]

You need to convince whoever is the next Carolina coach to keep Clausen. LOL.

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[quote=Ruhskins;774968]You need to convince whoever is the next Carolina coach to keep Clausen. LOL.[/quote]

The question is would Carolina be willing to pay up if he comes out, he won't be cheap.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;774965]I would pull a Ditka for him if he comes out and Carolina is stupid enough to trade. Trade this years 1st, 2nd, McNabb, Haynesworth and if that's not enough, throw in next years 1st. This guy is the next Brady/Manning.[/quote]

He's gonna come out. He's got a $50M guaranteed lottery ticket in his back pocket and Harbaugh is leaving.

Fail to Rece Davis for asking Harbaugh and Luck on the damn Rose Bowl podium about their futures with the program. Come on dude. Give the guys and their team a few minutes to enjoy the win. What a douche.

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If Carolina some how let's him slip there is no way Cleveland or buffalo will. And gabbert isn't that great guys, he plays in a spread offense that uses multiple screens. He's a guy that could fall down to the 20s maybe even like clausen did last yr. Chase Daniel put up the same numbers at mizz

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;774965]I would pull a Ditka for him if he comes out and Carolina is stupid enough to trade. Trade this years 1st, 2nd, McNabb, Haynesworth and if that's not enough, throw in next years 1st. This guy is the next Brady/Manning.[/quote]

Luck is a very good qb and I'm sure he's going to do well at the next level. But I think people are over doing it. This guy is not the next great thing at qb. If he is he certainly haven't showed it yet.

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I love Blaine Gabbert. In terms of who would fit our system best, I have him right behind Luck.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;774941]So you're picturing a Grossman-Smith-Ponder group? Interesting. I'll hold you to that prediction and if you're wrong, [B]well lets just say that you're going to be missing an "o" key on your keyboard. Cross me again and I'll go after the "c" key.[/B]

Still it looks like the Skins are trying to make their QB position the island of misfit toys.[/quote]
Between this and your SHF thread note, I would say someone was in a fighting mood last night~
:food-smil

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[quote=SmootSmack;774937]Skins have heavily scouted Ponder this year, much to my delight. I'd like to see thm take him in the 2nd round. The could even trade down a few spots and probably still get him[/quote]

Christian Ponder?? Are you serious?? I wouldn't even consider drafting him in the first few rounds. I don't see him as a very skilled passer. Yeah he can run around a lot but I just don't see his game working in the NFL. Mid to late round talent IMO.

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[quote=IrMitchell;774991]I love Blaine Gabbert. In terms of who would fit our system best, I have him right behind Luck.[/quote]

I also love Gabbert as a prospect. He has ideal size at 6-5 and around 240, he has a very strong, accurate arm, he is athletic, and he still has a lot of upside to his game. I think I'd take him at #10 but that may be just because I'm not that impressed with most of the top players in this year's NFL Draft.

In fainess to those who don't rate him as highly as we do, I'd have to admit that taking him at #10 would be a risk. Nevertheless, even if he would be a reach in the upper third of Round 1, I think that somebody is going to take that risk. That's because there are so many QB-starved teams in the NFL right now. I actually think he could go even higher than #10 because of the widespread need for QB's. Conversely, I think that trading down from #10 and still getting him would be highly unlikely.

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[quote=skinsfan69;775027]Christian Ponder?? Are you serious?? I wouldn't even consider drafting him in the first few rounds. I don't see him as a very skilled passer. Yeah he can run around a lot but I just don't see his game working in the NFL. Mid to late round talent IMO.[/quote]

He hasn't been healthy for most of the year, battling a right elbow injury. Played through it though, and should be fully healthy in a few months anyway. I like him. Not in a "I'm going to mess with the board and rock the boat with a Jevan Snead bandwagon" kind of way, but in a "While he may not be a stud, I genuinely believe people are overlooking Chase Daniel and he can be a legit NFL QB" kind of way...Though I would have never drafted Chase before the 4th as I think there's a difference between legit and franchise. Call me crazy, but I think Ponder could be a surprise franchise QB

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[quote=SmootSmack;775035]He hasn't been healthy for most of the year, battling a right elbow injury. Played through it though, and should be fully healthy in a few months anyway. I like him. Not in a "I'm going to mess with the board and rock the boat with a Jevan Snead bandwagon" kind of way, but in a "While he may not be a stud, I genuinely believe people are overlooking Chase Daniel and he can be a legit NFL QB" kind of way...Though I would have never drafted Chase before the 4th as I think there's a difference between legit and franchise. [B]Call me crazy[/B], but I think Ponder could be a surprise franchise QB[/quote]

You're crazy!

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[quote=SmootSmack;775035]He hasn't been healthy for most of the year, battling a right elbow injury. Played through it though, and should be fully healthy in a few months anyway. I like him. Not in a "I'm going to mess with the board and rock the boat with a Jevan Snead bandwagon" kind of way, but in a "While he may not be a stud, I genuinely believe people are overlooking Chase Daniel and he can be a legit NFL QB" kind of way...Though I would have never drafted Chase before the 4th as I think there's a difference between legit and franchise. Call me crazy, but I think Ponder could be a surprise franchise QB[/quote]

I've watched Ponder quite a bit & I agree; he could be a long time starter & win a lot of games. Chad Pennington & Jake Delhomme (before he starting throwing picks w/every other pass) come to mind when I think of comparisons. He has played in a pro style offense & has pretty good mechanics. I think he's a good fit in DC & in the 2nd would be great value. A trade back to get him & pick up an additional pick or two would be ideal.

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I disagree...I think Ponder will be a surprisingly good quarterback at the NFL level. If he is surrounded by decent talent, no reason he can't be a good quarterback. Guy has started 25+ games for a decent program, completed 63% of his passes in his career, has got great size (almost andrew luck size) and can run around to make plays with his feet. I wouldn't mind drafting him in the 3rd and seeing if he can't provide some competition.

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[quote=freddyg12;775062]I've watched Ponder quite a bit & I agree; he could be a long time starter & win a lot of games. Chad Pennington & Jake Delhomme (before he starting throwing picks w/every other pass) come to mind when I think of comparisons. He has played in a pro style offense & has pretty good mechanics. I think he's a good fit in DC & in the 2nd would be great value. A trade back to get him & pick up an additional pick or two would be ideal.[/quote]


A mobile Brad Johnson?

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[quote=Landry44;774989]Luck is a very good qb and I'm sure he's going to do well at the next level. But I think people are over doing it. This guy is not the next great thing at qb. If he is he certainly haven't showed it yet.[/quote]


Really? And I'm saying that very sarcastically. What does he need to do to show [b]you[/b] that he is the next great one? Walk on water? Turn water to wine? Walk on wine? Luck may not become the next great one, things like injuries happen, but there's nothing he's shown on the field that doesn't scream, I'm the best qb prospect since at least Peyton Manning if not the members of the class of '83.

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[quote=Terpfan76;775068]Really? And I'm saying that very sarcastically. What does he need to do to show [b]you[/b] that he is the next great one? Walk on water? Turn water to wine? Walk on wine? Luck may not become the next great one, things like injuries happen, but there's nothing he's shown on the field that doesn't scream, I'm the best qb prospect since at least Peyton Manning if not the members of the class of '83.[/quote]

He's the most polished/complete player since John Elway. You put Luck on any team in the NFL and he would start from day 1, how often can you say that? Last night and all season long the guy has displayed accuracy, touch, great decision making, smarts, athleticism and toughness. None of the other QB's coming out of college this year can compare to this guy.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775072]He's the most polished/complete player since John Elway. You put Luck on any team in the NFL and he would start from day 1, how often can you say that? Last night and all season long the guy has displayed accuracy, touch, great decision making, smarts, athleticism and toughness. None of the other QB's coming out of college this year can compare to this guy.[/quote]

More polished than Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford? Idk about that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;775076]More polished than Matt Ryan and Sam Bradford? Idk about that.[/quote]

Yep. Did you watch the game last night or have seen Stanford play this year? This kid is unreal, Ryan or Bradford are not even close to what they were in college compared to Luck. Remember he is only a Sophomore on his way to becoming a Junior if he stays in college.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So i was thinking about something. Would you rather have a QB that seems like he has all the skill in the world, but maybe be lacking a little bit mentally or maturity wise. Or would you rather have a QB that is really smart and works extremely hard, but lacks when it comes to some of the physical demands desired of a NFL QB.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]QB's coming out of college that seemed to have all the physical tools but lacked some of the mental stuff in my mind are Brett Farve (worked out), McNabb (worked out), Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf (didnt work out), Ben Roethlisberger (worked out).[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]QB's with the mental edge but lacking some physical characteristics would be Brady (more of a anomaly then anything), Chad Pennington (worked out in my mind), Drew Brees.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Obviously there are QBs that are deemed to have all the mental and physical tools coming out of college (Payton Manning, Matt Ryan) but they usually go number 1.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Then there are guys that grow up for whatever reason, Mike Vick being the prime example in my eyes. He was once lazy/immature, now he works hard and puts the mental and physical together.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So who would you rather take if you don’t have the option to pick a guy with all the physical and mental tools to get the job done? Im not completely sure but I would lean towards the hard worker/smart guy over a guy that has everything physical, especially if you want him to start for you within a year or 2. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;775078]Yep. Did you watch the game last night or have seen Stanford play this year? This kid is unreal, Ryan or Bradford are not even close to what they were in college compared to Luck. Remember he is only a Sophomore on his way to becoming a Junior if he stays in college.[/quote]

Yes I did and the guy is damn good BUT you seem to forget that Sam Bradford LED his team to a National Champ appearance and also WON the heisman trophy in only his Sophomore year. Passing for 50 Tds to just 8 Ints.
That's more TD's in 1 season than Luck has had in 2.. Just saying.

88 Tds to 16 Ints in just 2 seasons and he wasn't as good as Luck??? Sorry but your wrong on that my man.

Don't get me wrong Sam had more talent around him with a dominant LT, I understand that but there's a reason why even Kiper and McShay have both said NO qb's in this draft are close to Bradford last year.

I would take the guy(Luck) over anyone don't get me wrong, and Yes he has a tremendous pocket presence and very accurate. The only knock on him is Arm strength but that's overatted, I hope to god we can get him but WE know that won't happen. We'll be stuck with Rex or Orton for another 2 years....

BTW Luck was born in DC, that would be bad ass for him to come home! HTTR

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[quote=mlmpetert;775079][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So i was thinking about something. Would you rather have a QB that seems like he has all the skill in the world, but maybe be lacking a little bit mentally or maturity wise. Or would you rather have a QB that is really smart and works extremely hard, but lacks when it comes to some of the physical demands desired of a NFL QB.[/FONT][/COLOR][/B]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]QB's coming out of college that seemed to have all the physical tools but lacked some of the mental stuff in my mind are Brett Farve (worked out), McNabb (worked out), Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf (didnt work out), Ben Roethlisberger (worked out).[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]QB's with the mental edge but lacking some physical characteristics would be Brady (more of a anomaly then anything), Chad Pennington (worked out in my mind), Drew Brees.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Obviously there are QBs that are deemed to have all the mental and physical tools coming out of college (Payton Manning, Matt Ryan) but they usually go number 1.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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Then there are guys that grow up for whatever reason, Mike Vick being the prime example in my eyes. He was once lazy/immature, now he works hard and puts the mental and physical together.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]So who would you rather take if you don’t have the option to pick a guy with all the physical and mental tools to get the job done? Im not completely sure but I would lean towards the hard worker/smart guy over a guy that has everything physical, especially if you want him to start for you within a year or 2. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]


Well would you rather have Brady or Vick?

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Andrew Luck really took my Hokies to the shed last night. He looks like the real deal. You can say he didn't have the numbers Bradford had, but just watching the way he played last night it looks like he has all the tools to be an elite quarterback in the NFL. I kinda hope he comes out even though we don't have a shot at him, because it's like someone in this thread already said, if he declares it pushes everybody down a spot, which helps us. But if/when he does come out, I have no doubts he'll be #1. Unless your name is Carolina and you are more concerned with penny pinching than building a Super Bowl contender.