Massive quake hits Japan; Tsunami in Pacific, nations on alert
 

A powerful earthquake hit Japan today, unleashing a tsunami that swept debris miles inland. The U.S. and 19 other countries are under a tsunami warning.

[url=http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/11/japan.quake/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1]At least 50 killed; tsunamis feared as massive quake hits Japan - CNN.com[/url]

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Looking at the pictures of the debris looks like someone took a giant pushbroom across the landscape of Japan

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[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-naw-hawaii-warning-20110312,0,5340743.story]Hawaiians brace for 6-foot tsunami waves - latimes.com[/url]

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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBt5VlZkdyY]YouTube - Raw Video: Earthquake Triggers Tsunami in Japan[/ame]

once in a while the earth reminds us of how violent nature can really get.
more videos at: [url=http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/11/video-of-the-earthquake-and-tsunami-in-japan/?no_interstitial#television-networks-show-images-of-destruction]Video of the Earthquake and Tsunami in Japan - NYTimes.com[/url]

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the footage is simply amazing, too crazy to wrap your head around.

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So terribly sad and tragic. Death toll will likely be much higher than current estimates. May Kannon be there to help them.

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Sadness:

BreakingNews
Japan police say 200-300 bodies found on beach near Sendai, closest city to epicenter [url=http://bbc.in/gsjWCQ]BBC News - Japan tsunami[/url]
2 minutes ago

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There is a nuclear power plant right now in Tokyo that is on fire due to the fact that the generators to cool the reactor failed in the fallout from the quake.

This is very scary due to the fact that it shares a similar situation with the 1986 Chernobyl disaster. It was actually a fire in the reactor due to a similar cooling problem that blew the dome off the building, and spewed radiation and poison across the landscape, leading to the city of pripyat being permanently abandoned.

I dont know what steps they are taking to try and stop the fire, and they have not commented yet on if there is any radiation leaking inside or around the building...very scary

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BreakingNews Breaking News
USGS has measured 67 aftershocks with a 5.0 magnitude or above in Japan since the quake [url=http://1.usa.gov/giDeqa]Latest Earthquakes in the World - Past 7 days[/url]


SolidSnake - Japanese government reports that no radiation is leaking. Also, I trust Japanese technical experts and nuclear facilities far more than 1970's era Soviet designs. No offense, just don't think the Chernobyl comparison is very relevant.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;788523]There is a nuclear power plant right now in Tokyo that is on fire due to the fact that the generators to cool the reactor failed in the fallout from the quake.

This is very scary due to the fact that it shares a similar situation with the 1986 Chernobyl disaster. It was actually a fire in the reactor due to a similar cooling problem that blew the dome off the building, and spewed radiation and poison across the landscape, leading to the city of[B] pripyat[/B] being permanently abandoned.

I dont know what steps they are taking to try and stop the fire, and they have not commented yet on if there is any radiation leaking inside or around the building...very scary[/quote]


Speaking of great read/pics of the city now.

[url=http://villageofjoy.com/chernobyl-today-a-creepy-story-told-in-pictures/]Chernobyl Today: A Creepy Story told in Pictures | Village Of Joy[/url]

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Here's a good article on the nuclear plant:
[url=http://www.deccanchronicle.com/international/nuclear-plant-oil-refineries-fire-japan-declares-atomic-alert-473]Nuclear plant, oil refineries on fire; Japan declares atomic alert | Deccan Chronicle | 2011-03-11[/url]

[QUOTE]Prime Minister Naoto Kan declared the emergency to enable authorities to implement emergency measures. Residents living near plants were not required to take special action, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yukio Edano told a news conference.

"We have declared a nuclear emergency state to take every possible precaution," Edano said. "Let me repeat that there is no radiation leak, nor will there be a leak."

"We ask residents in the areas near power plants to act calmly."

A fire broke out in the turbine building of Onagawa nuclear plant in Miyagi Prefecture, but operator Tohoku Electric Power said there were no indications of a radioactive leak, Kyodo News reported. [/QUOTE]

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Atomic Energy is so much more powerful now than it was in the 1980's...Plants put out way more energy than they did back then.

I imagine an plant explosion today would sadly make the Chernobyl disaster look small. Hard to imagine, but I imagine the people in Japan are already fearing the same kind of situation.

I know that Japan reps have said there is no leak, etc, blah blah blah.

But remember, it was not until almost 48 hours after Chernobyl exploded that people were evacuated, and even then they were told that they would only be gone from the city for about a week.

The government did not admit to the scale of the disaster/problem until 2 days later when nuclear plants in DIFFERENT COUNTRIES began to detect the spreading plume of radition. Only at that point did they fully admit to the disaster. God be with the people in Japan right now....The world cannot take another "Chernobyl"

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Unreal.....Japan is going to be fuxxorred for quite a while.
:(

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Great now the price of a barrel of TV's is going to sky rocket! Not to mention chop sticks, rice, video games, and Japanese porn!

Fawk this!

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[quote=mredskins;788530]Speaking of great read/pics of the city now.

[url=http://villageofjoy.com/chernobyl-today-a-creepy-story-told-in-pictures/]Chernobyl Today: A Creepy Story told in Pictures | Village Of Joy[/url][/quote]

definitely disturbing images. Much like one would picture a post-apocalyptic earth.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;788533]Atomic Energy is so much more powerful now than it was in the 1980's...Plants put out way more energy than they did back then.

I imagine an plant explosion today would sadly make the Chernobyl disaster look small. Hard to imagine, but I imagine the people in Japan are already fearing the same kind of situation.

I know that Japan reps have said there is no leak, etc, blah blah blah.

But remember, it was not until almost 48 hours after Chernobyl exploded that people were evacuated, and even then they were told that they would only be gone from the city for about a week.

The government did not admit to the scale of the disaster/problem until 2 days later when nuclear plants in DIFFERENT COUNTRIES began to detect the spreading plume of radition. Only at that point did they fully admit to the disaster. God be with the people in Japan right now....The world cannot take another "Chernobyl"[/quote]

Japan is not the Soviet Union in terms of public acknowledgement of tragedies. They are hyper sensitive to radiation concerns(Hiroshima/Nagasaki ring a bell), and if word got out that they tried to hide info, their political leaders would be recalled in a heartbeat.

[QUOTE=mredskins;788535]Great now the price of a barrel of TV's is going to sky rocket! Not to mention chop sticks, rice, video games, and Japanese porn!

Fawk this![/QUOTE]


Not funny man.

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Thoughts and prayers to all those affected by this. Hopefully, the international community will rise to the occasion to assist.

As to the nuclear plant, it is a concern but nothing more. The reactor in question is a modern Boiling Water Reactor and is Japan's "most modern reactor". It is simply incomparable to Russia's first generation'ish Light Water Graphite Reactors such as Chernobyl. (In Chernobyl, the graphite in the graphite moderator caught on fire).

[url=http://www.eoearth.org/article/Nuclear_power_reactor]Nuclear power reactor[/url]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onagawa_Nuclear_Power_Plant]Onagawa Nuclear Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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Is there any part of the world that isn't upside down? Geez...what next?

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[quote=12thMan;788544]Is there any part of the world that isn't upside down? Geez...what next?[/quote]
12/21/12

The ancient peoples of Mesoamerica were of a vast interconnected empire, filled with rich art, education and destruction. The Maya were one of these tribes. Other than archaeological intrigue why are these people so studied? Their written language was [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/mayan-man.gif[/IMG]based on pictographs, much like the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. Mayan culture was like most other native cultures.
The Maya had an understanding of mathematics and understood the value of zero long before its discovery in the Eastern parts of the world. Their understanding of numbers and astronomy gave us the Mayan calendars of the Long and Short Counts. So why does this calendar attract so much attention now? The Mayan calendar ends on the Gregorian calendar date of December 21, 2012, which most people believe is the total end of civilization, as we know it, while others believe it is simply a change of enlightenment in this current time. Many theories have sprung up about this end date, ranging from the laughable, to the religious, to the scientific.
There are actually three Mayan calendar systems, the 365-day Solar year, the 260-day Ritual year, and the 5,128 years of the World Time calendar. The Haab or Solar year was broken down into an 18 month plus five days cycle. 18 months of 20 days and the 5 soulless days which were thought to be of ill omen, kind of like 5 days of Friday the 13th. The Tzolkin (zol-KEEN) or Sacred Round was the 260-day ritual calendar was broken down by days, not months. This religious calendar was the basis on how the people, singly and collectively, went on with their day-to-day lives according to destiny.
August 11, 3.114 B.C. when the world began in, long count to Gregorian translation. This beginning date was reached by finding a point in future time (December 21 2012) and counting backwards, as theories go, which gives us a 5,126 year span.

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A little bit about the Chernobyl reactor: [url=http://www.eoearth.org/article/Light_water_graphite_reactor_(RBMK]Encyclopedia of Earth[/url]

"The combination of graphite moderator and water coolant is found in no other nuclear power reactors. The design characteristics of the reactor mean that it is unstable at low power levels, as was shown in the Chernobyl, Ukraine accident. The instability was due primarily to control rod design and a positive void coefficient. A number of significant design changes have now been made to address these problems."

Again, anytime nuclear reactions are involved it is appropriate to act with care and to carefully monitor the situtation. It seems that is being done.

Right now, the majority of the focus needs to be on rescuing, caring for, and otherwise assisting those injured or immediately threatened by the tsunami. Fortunately, unlike Haiti, Japan has a sufficiently resiliant infrastructure that will help limit the extent of the "collateral damage" caused by the earthquake/tsunami.

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[URL="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/03/11/vo.whirlpool.earthquake.nhk?hpt=C2"]Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com[/URL]

Crazy!


Would that not make you think there is a crack on the sea floor and the water is pouring in much like a draining tub acts or maybe the currents are just so messed up right now it is causing that.

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Breaking News
Passenger train with unknown number of people aboard missing in coastal area of Japan - Kyodo via BBC [url=http://bbc.in/eP8sto]BBC News - Japan earthquake: Tsunami hits north-east[/url]

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[quote=hooskins;788538]Not funny man.[/quote]


I thought it was pretty harmless but if it offended my apologies.

Sent from my Droid using Tapatalk.

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[LEFT][COLOR=#000000][B][SIZE=2]Japan Declares Nuclear Emergency, As Cooling System Fails At Power Plant[/SIZE]

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[quote=Mattyk;788554][LEFT][COLOR=#000000][B][SIZE=2]Japan Declares Nuclear Emergency, As Cooling System Fails At Power Plant[/SIZE]

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WOW! Not good!

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc7kIKI6baM&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - コスモ石油燃料タンク爆発の瞬間(3月11日地震）[/url]

Check out this video. In the back graound there are big explosions and the one guy is walking down the street like nothing is happening. I really had only seen a few clips of this until I clicked on this thread and right now I'm at a lost of words.

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[quote=mredskins;788550][URL="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2011/03/11/vo.whirlpool.earthquake.nhk?hpt=C2"]Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com[/URL]

Crazy!


Would that not make you think there is a crack on the sea floor and the water is pouring in much like a draining tub acts or maybe the currents are just so messed up right now it is causing that.[/quote]

Thats a dead spot protected from the rushing water which causes the whirlpool action. You see them all the time in strong currents but on a much much smaller scale.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2011/03/world/hires.japan.quake/index.html?hpt=T1]Earthquake rocks Japan[/url]

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[quote=12thMan;788544]Is there any part of the world that isn't upside down? Geez...what next?[/quote]

I did not know that Japan has earth quakes all the time but this one was much bigger. The world isn't upside down we just try to build in areas where its just a matter of time before these things happen. Where I live we fight the ocean but we know its just a matter of time before mother nature wins and kicks our ass. In Ca. we know there will be another large Quake but we keep building. In FL. we know Hurricanes will hit but we keep building.

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Prayers goes out to the people of Japan.

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This video really shows how big that wall of water was.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwC5QqGrMGo&feature=related"]YouTube - Earthquake / Tsunami Hits Japan | Live Footage| March 11, 2011[/URL]

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Update on Fukushima plant:

Japan evacuates thousands near Fukushima nuke plant; plans to release radioactive vapor to reduce pressure - AP

Also US sending cooling fluid to Japan.

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[quote=firstdown;788575]This video really shows how big that wall of water was.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwC5QqGrMGo&feature=related"]YouTube - Earthquake / Tsunami Hits Japan | Live Footage| March 11, 2011[/URL][/quote]

Watching that video, you knew you were watching people die. Horrible.

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[quote=Mattyk;788554][LEFT][COLOR=#000000][B][SIZE=2]Japan Declares Nuclear Emergency, As Cooling System Fails At Power Plant[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Read more: [/SIZE][URL="http://www.businessinsider.com/fukushima-nuclear-plant-2011-3#ixzz1GIz901jh"][SIZE=2]http://www.businessinsider.com/fukushima-nuclear-plant-2011-3#ixzz1GIz901jh[/SIZE][/URL][/B]

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Damn. This is a different plant then the earlier warning and is one of Japan's older ones.

Hopefully, it can be contained.

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AP article detailing what has been done so far at the nuke plant:

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110311/ap_on_bi_ge/as_japan_quake_power_plant]Nuke plant trouble after Japan quake; 3K evacuated - Yahoo! News[/url]

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[quote=SolidSnake84;788533]Atomic Energy is so much more powerful now than it was in the 1980's...Plants put out way more energy than they did back then.

I imagine an plant explosion today would sadly make the Chernobyl disaster look small. Hard to imagine, but I imagine the people in Japan are already fearing the same kind of situation.

I know that Japan reps have said there is no leak, etc, blah blah blah.

But remember, it was not until almost 48 hours after Chernobyl exploded that people were evacuated, and even then they were told that they would only be gone from the city for about a week.

The government did not admit to the scale of the disaster/problem until 2 days later when nuclear plants in DIFFERENT COUNTRIES began to detect the spreading plume of radition. Only at that point did they fully admit to the disaster. God be with the people in Japan right now....The world cannot take another "Chernobyl"[/quote]

No comparison between Soviet era gov't and Japan. The Japanese gov't wont wait like so many Soviet officials did (being afraid to tell superiors about the true nature of the problems). Also Nuclear power plants today have more fail-safes. Hard to a imagine a power plant being as susceptible today to a fire as back then.

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UPDATE 2:30PM - TOKYO (AP) -- Authorities say the pressure is rising at a nuclear power plant in northeastern Japan after its cooling system failed.

[URL="http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/157442/2/Hundreds-killed-in-Japan-quake-pressure-rising-at-nuclear-plant"]Massive 8.9 earthquake hits Japan; Tsunami Warning issued for Pacific | wzzm13.com[/URL]

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[url=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-crescent-city-california-20110311,0,3043382.story]Crescent City, Santa Cruz hit hard by tsunami from Japan quake - latimes.com[/url]