Haynesworth "Wanted Badly" By Eagles' D-Line Coach
 

[url=http://dc.sbnation.com/washington-redskins/2011/6/15/2225813/albert-haynesworth-rumors-washington-redskins-philadelphia-eagles-]Albert Haynesworth Wanted 'Badly' By Philadelphia Eagles Defensive Line Coach Jim Washburn, According To Report - SB Nation DC[/url]

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So this rumor has legs. This is the very definition of high risk high reward. We could let the Eagles have him and he helps the locker room implode from within, or he treats us and other Eagle opponents like Suh did this past year.

Damnit Albert put down the phone and stop reading the newspaper.

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That report has come from a couple different sources of late, don't how much weight it carries. Despite all his transgressions here, could it be he's still wanted somewhere by somebody?

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i can't wait until this jackass is out of the nfl and broke, such a waste of talent, and overall peice of garbage.

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Haynesworth for Maclin.

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how much would you guys need to have to have him traded to the eagles. I say third but most likely we will get a fourth

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Keep him far away from the NFC East. Still one of the most dangerous 4-3 DTs in the NFL if properly motivated. PLaying us = proper motivation.

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They are more than welcome to have him and McNabb for a 1st round pick. You can't get any sweeter deal than that!

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[quote=saden1;807174]They are more than welcome to have him and McNabb for a 1st round pick. You can't get any sweeter deal than that![/quote]Once we get a CBA, the first second afterwards I'd ink that one. Hell, I'd do it for a 2nd rounder.

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you think they'd give us back anthony dixon for him?

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I think it boils down to two things....

1- How bad does the Eagles DC want Haynesworth?
2- How bad does Haynesworth want out of here and with the Eagles?

To the Skins its obviously smart to get what we can get, some here would say he "should" be worth a 1st or 2nd round draft pick. Others would laugh and say he's not worth that now. Some would say he's worth a 3rd round or 4th round pick and again others would laugh and say we'd be lucky to get that. Persoanally with no one wanting him he's worth nothing. So lets see how bad the Eagles want him. We all know he's an out of shape player and can't last more then 4-6 plays in a row before tiring out and leaving the field. Thats solved by zone blocking and rolling out the QB until ole Haynesworth tires out then we can run right around him. But.... again how bad do the Eagles want him?

Then there is how bad does Haynesworth want to be out of here and with the Eagles? Enough to pay back some of the money? Because "if" it's true the Eagles want him we actually have options now... we can trade him to the Eagles for perhaps decent value, we can trade him to one of the other teams that were mentioned to be interested for cheap, or we can sit on him and let him rot on the bench pissing off him and his ole ball coach with the Eagles.

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Mike Shanahan isn't going to deal Haynesworth to a division rival unless Philly are willing to cough up some premium draft picks. I'm talking second [i]and[/i] third round draft picks, or at least one or the other, on top of possibly another player.

Without that, I don't see Mike trading him. Maybe Haynesworth signs there as a free agent, but he won't be worth the money he spends. I don't see him being motivated to work for Juan Castillo if he wouldn't work for Jim Haslett. I don't care if Washburn is the d-line coach. Castillo still calls the plays.

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[quote=NLC1054;807184]Mike Shanahan isn't going to deal Haynesworth to a division rival unless Philly are willing to cough up some premium draft picks. I'm talking second [i]and[/i] third round draft picks, or at least one or the other, on top of possibly another player.

Without that, I don't see Mike trading him. Maybe Haynesworth signs there as a free agent, but he won't be worth the money he spends. I don't see him being motivated to work for Juan Castillo if he wouldn't work for Jim Haslett. [B]I don't care if Washburn is the d-line couch[/B]. Castillo still calls the plays.[/quote]

If there's a couch, you know AH will be on it rather than doing his fitness drills.

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[quote=Lotus;807185]If there's a couch, you know AH will be on it rather than doing his fitness drills.[/quote]

...Quiet, you...

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Is there anything other than our own conjecture indicating that the Redskins are intent on trading Haynesworth?

I mean it makes sense to do it, but it's quite possible the 'Skins are willing to just sit on the guy.

Regardless though, there's no way I'd trade him within the division, especially not to a team who runs a system he likes and has a coach he's worked well with in the past. The whole reason he won't play for us is he hates our system. As soon as he gets back into a system he likes he's going to turn it back on. If he goes to the Eagles he'll destroy us, there's no circumstance where I'd make that trade.

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[quote=Daseal;807173]Keep him far away from the NFC East. Still one of the most dangerous 4-3 DTs in the NFL if properly motivated. PLaying us = proper motivation.[/quote]

I agree completely. I mean as much crap as he gets (and deservedly so) he has played 2-4 motivated games even with us and he's a freaking beast. You know he'd kick our ass twice a year if he went to Philadelphia. Send him to the AFC for a mid round pick and just forget he was ever here.

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After McNabb I never want to trade with the Iggles again.

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NFL Network's Jason La Canfora suspects that the Redskins will not get more than a fifth-round pick in a trade of Albert Haynesworth.

La Canfora, a former longtime Skins beat writer, believes Washington would be wary of trading Haynesworth to the Eagles, who are known to have interest. "I think they'd trade him for a seventh-round pick somewhere outside the division before they dealt him to the Eagles now, with (DL coach Jim) Washburn there, or cut him," says La Canfora. "They should have taken a fifth for him last offseason and ended the circus then."

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/06/15/la-canfora-possible-replacements-for-haynesworth/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive La Canfora: Possible replacements for Haynesworth «[/url]

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Sure, trade him to the Eagles. Let him become their problem. If he were to become an Eagles player, I would enjoy watching him take a short nap during a play in front of their understanding and supportive fans.

Having him in the division wouldn't hurt us. He's sure to be way out of shape when the season starts so he'd probably only play about ten or twelve plays a game for the Eagles. Plus, it's a good bet that he'll do something to get himself suspended before the Eagles even play us.

The important thing is to get him off our team as soon as possible.

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Hanynesworth for Kolb or Vick is the only way I would deal him to the Eagles. Trades like that only happen on Madden though.

Everyone knows that the Skins are just going to get rid of him so they are going to hold off on any trades of value and just wait for him to be a free agent.

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NO, NO, and NO ! I would NOT trade him to the Eagles, Boys, Giants, let alone anyone in the NFC period. He can go to the AFC all day long but NOT the NFC. Personally, I'd keep him but if I get rid of him it would be trade or nothing.

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I dont understand why people would be against trading him to the eagles but be okay with cutting him. I think philly would be a pretty attractive team to him; playoff caliber team, reunite with Washburn and the 4-3, constant supply of cheese steaks. If we cut him id say theres a pretty good chance of him going there anyway. If its either cut him and let him go to the eagles on his own or trade him for a low round pick to philly, whats so bad about at least getting something for him?

Maybe we can trade him to the Panthers for a conditional 7th? If not id just assume keep him

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No way he goes to the Eagles. I say if we cannot get a decent pick for him we just hold on to him until someone makes us an offer. I'd like to see him go to a team like Miami so we can watch his fat ass wither away in the heat. Nothing worse then an over weight out of shape person trying to deal with the heat.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;807215]Sure, trade him to the Eagles. Let him become their problem. If he were to become an Eagles player, I would enjoy watching him take a short nap during a play in front of their understanding and supportive fans.

Having him in the division wouldn't hurt us. He's sure to be way out of shape when the season starts so he'd probably only play about ten or twelve plays a game for the Eagles. Plus, it's a good bet that he'll do something to get himself suspended before the Eagles even play us.

The important thing is to get him off our team as soon as possible.[/quote]

This is totally how I feel. "Could" he end up in camp and turning out to be a beast for them? Yes, possible but not probable.

Plus its all about knowing how he would be used. Apparently he's not good enough or bright enough or whatever to simply sit back and plug a hole for any team since all he want to do is be cut loose to blitz every down. If you can design a couple of plays around him for the first 4-6 plays he kinda takes himself out of the game for that series. Screan pass. QB roll to the opposite side. Zone block. Shot gun. AH then would walk off the field huffing and puffing for us to run the ball. ;) better yet just run the ball when he's not in, pass when he is.

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[quote=firstdown;807227]No way he goes to the Eagles. I say if we cannot get a decent pick for him we just hold on to him until someone makes us an offer. I'd like to see him go to a team like Miami so we can watch his fat ass wither away in the heat. Nothing worse then an over weight out of shape person trying to deal with the heat.[/quote]

I'll also agree with having fun watching him suffer also. Which is why I said lets see what the Eagles offer because it would have to be enough to entice us to want to send him to a division rival. Otherwise send him to Tampa who is interested supposedly or back to the Tenn where he lives.

Heck if AH is the last piece to the Eagles puzzle they should be willing to give up just about anything to get him..... maybe an OL?

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[quote=Lotus;807166]Haynesworth for Maclin.[/quote]

You would need to have a very large caliber weapon at Andy Reid's head to make that trade work...

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We shouldn't need another WR.

I say we swap a DL for an OL player.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;807295]You would need to have a very large caliber weapon at Andy Reid's head to make that trade work...[/quote]

I wouldn't want to trade AH to Philly so my asking price would be very high. AH for Maclin. Take it or leave it, Andy Reid.

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I'd trade AH to the Eagles in a heartbeat. Let him be someone elses problem, but since they are in the division I'd ask for a lot more then what the going price is. If a 5th or 6th is the going price I'd ask for a 3rd or 4th from them. If they are willing to trade a player.... we don't need another WR. I'd take an OL.

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I would trade AH for VY before I would trade him to the shegles.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;807319]I would trade AH for VY before I would trade him to the shegles.[/quote]

:doh:

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Trade him where we get the best value. We're in a rebuilding mode and we need all the help we need. That's where the team's focus should be, not trying to teach POS players a lesson. If he was a problem here, he'll be a problem everywhere.

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[quote=Lotus;807166]Haynesworth for Maclin.[/quote]

Lol Hayneworth for either Maclin.. or Samuel...or we don't deal with Philly in my opinion

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[quote=Ruhskins;807325]Trade him where we get the best value. We're in a rebuilding mode and we need all the help we need. That's where the team's focus should be, not trying to teach POS players a lesson. If he was a problem here, he'll be a problem everywhere.[/quote]

Personally, I think we should send AH to Denver. Send Albert Haynesworth to the AFC West, where his fat behind will be sucking wind in the thin Colorado air, for a 5th round draft pick and Brady Quinn. We get a third quarterback and a young guy to develop and a draft pick. Maybe not a huge pick, but at that point we'd have three picks in the early rounds, two fours and two fives.

Denver gets a DT that they actually need since they're going back to a 4-3, and maybe John Fox can bring something out of Fat Al that we couldn't.

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[quote=Ruhskins;807325]Trade him where we get the best value. We're in a rebuilding mode and we need all the help we need. That's where the team's focus should be, not trying to teach POS players a lesson. If he was a problem here, he'll be a problem everywhere.[/quote]

I completely agree. We are trying to rebuild our old team with good young, talent. The more draft picks the better. If it helps the Eagles next year, so what? It is not like the Skins are a contender.

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[quote=heybigstar;807534]I completely agree. We are trying to rebuild our old team with good young, talent. The more draft picks the better. If it helps the Eagles next year, so what? It is not like the Skins are a contender.[/quote]

Because regardless of whether the Redskins will be "contenders" or not, the goal is still to win football games. And you don't trade a guy in the division that you feel can still beat you two times a year if he's motivated enough to do it.

The only reason the Iggles traded McNabb in the division is because they felt like he wasn't going to be a legitimate threat to them, and they were right, he wasn't. Albert can suck it up in Philly, but all he has to do is be motivated to win two times a year, and the relatively low cost of having him on the team will at least be somewhat justified.

In other words, you don't trade a guy in the division if you think that guy will make the team you're facing better. I'm all for trading him and getting something in return for him being a jackass for the past two seasons, but I'd rather him get traded somewhere far away where we don't have to face him very often.

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Trade him anywhere!!! I think we can handle AH on the other side of the line in Philly. If one "man" going to make the difference between the Skins beating Philly or not, then it really does not matter...

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[quote=NLC1054;807551]Because regardless of whether the Redskins will be "contenders" or not, the goal is still to win football games. And you don't trade a guy in the division that you feel can still beat you two times a year if he's motivated enough to do it.

[B]The only reason the Iggles traded McNabb in the division is because they felt like he wasn't going to be a legitimate threat to them, and they were right, he wasn't.[/B] Albert can suck it up in Philly, but all he has to do is be motivated to win two times a year, and the relatively low cost of having him on the team will at least be somewhat justified.

In other words, you don't trade a guy in the division if you think that guy will make the team you're facing better. I'm all for trading him and getting something in return for him being a jackass for the past two seasons, but I'd rather him get traded somewhere far away where we don't have to face him very often.[/quote]

I wouldn't say the "only reason" cause they got 2 high picks out of the deal. If the iggles will give up a 2nd & 3rd for AH I say go ahead & do it!

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It WOULD be fun to watch the battle between Haynesworth and the Philly fans. :D

You know they won't be able to play nice all season.

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[quote=NLC1054;807374]Personally, I think we should send AH to Denver. [B]Send Albert Haynesworth to the AFC West, where his fat behind will be sucking wind in the thin Colorado air, [/B]for a 5th round draft pick and Brady Quinn. We get a third quarterback and a young guy to develop and a draft pick. Maybe not a huge pick, but at that point we'd have three picks in the early rounds, two fours and two fives.

Denver gets a DT that they actually need since they're going back to a 4-3, and maybe John Fox can bring something out of Fat Al that we couldn't.[/quote]

:lol: He'd be coming out of games after one play.