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I hope everyone had a great Christmas!

Week 17 always sucks for me, It's basically the end of football season and lately (basically for 20 years) the Redskins play their last game this week.
That's all changed now, I already have the playoffs pretty much marked down.

Bears will lose to Detroit in a Big Upset, and GB will roll Minnesota but what makes it even better? The skins will defeat Dallass at home in primetime in our biggest game in a decade! HTTR, Enjoy the finale of the NFL Regular season.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/27/richard-sherman-says-he-won-his-appeal/]Richard Sherman says he won his appeal | ProFootballTalk[/url]

this is big for the Seahawks. Very Ryan Braun-like technicality

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Doesn't bode well for when we host them at Fed Ex next week

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/mcnabb-philly-is-finding-out-that-getting-to-the-playoffs-isnt-easy/]McNabb: Philly is finding out that getting to the playoffs isn’t easy | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Apparently McNabb thinks him and Dan Marino are in the same league. Not close.

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http://deadspin.com/5971513/espns-lomas-brown-spent-his-christmas-insulting-people-on-twitter#13567195485663&{"type":"iframeUpdated","height":1184}


LOL wtf!


And then of course:

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[quote=Chico23231;980624][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/mcnabb-philly-is-finding-out-that-getting-to-the-playoffs-isnt-easy/]McNabb: Philly is finding out that getting to the playoffs isn’t easy | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Apparently McNabb thinks him and Dan Marino are in the same league. Not close.[/quote]



Yeah, about as stupid as this comparison.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000116774/article/michael-vick-on-robert-griffin-he-reminds-me-of-me]Michael Vick on Robert Griffin: He reminds me of me - NFL.com[/url]


RGIII reminds Vick of himself? :laughing2 Even in Vick's best year, he couldn't even touch the numbers (or talent) that RGIII has displayed so far.


Listen to this dumbass and his ego.

[quote]"I'm a big RGIII fan," Vick told USA Today before the game. "He reminds me of what I do. I'm the originator of everything that's transpired in the league with the style of quarterback. It makes it gratifying to me."[/quote]

Originator? ROOOOOOOFFLLLL :rofl: Somebody needs to test this guy for drugs because he's smoking some good shit if he believes that. Vick is a moron. Hope he enjoys being a backup. He's done for in this league.

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[B]Beneath the well deserved hype of RG3 emerges another Incredible Redskins Rookie - The Amazing -
[SIZE="5"]...........................Alfred Morris........................[/SIZE][/B]

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[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1460395-alfred-morris-chasing-two-more-washington-redskins-records-in-week-17]Alfred Morris Chasing Two More Washington Redskins Records in Week 17 | Bleacher Report[/url]

*He is currently tied with Hall of Famer Charley Taylor. The running back turned wide receiver set the mark in 1964.

*Now Morris has a bigger franchise landmark in sight. He is 104 yards short of the Redskins record for rushing yards in a season.The current record is held by Clinton Portis. He rushed for 1,516 yards in 2005, helping push the Redskins into the playoffs.

Morris has a good chance to beat that mark, based on the last time he played the Cowboys. In Week 12's 38-31 win in Dallas, Morris powered his way for 113 yards on 24 carries.

He averaged 4.7 yards a carry and scored on a 1-yard run. Morris has a strong chance to repeat those numbers against the Cowboys' 17th-ranked run defense.

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[quote=Chico23231;980624][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/28/mcnabb-philly-is-finding-out-that-getting-to-the-playoffs-isnt-easy/]McNabb: Philly is finding out that getting to the playoffs isn’t easy | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Apparently McNabb thinks him and Dan Marino are in the same league. Not close.[/quote]I remember when McNabb was signed here, he said Andy Reid was a HOF coach too. Lol.

(They both deserve to be in the "Hall of Very Good" at best, IMO.)

Don't downplay vicks impact while in Atlanta, he carried that team for a while and was the most exciting player the league had seen in a while. That being said he's not or was the passer Griff is but a runner he was just as talented as RGIII.

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I'd give the edge to Vick in the running dept but there's no comparing them as passers. RG3 is light years ahead of Vick in that regard, also in pocket presence and being able to read a defense. And then there's the work ethic and character comparisons, again Vick simply can't match up.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;980709]Don't downplay vicks impact while in Atlanta, he carried that team for a while and was the most exciting player the league had seen in a while. That being said he's not or was the passer Griff is but a runner he was just as talented as RGIII.[/quote]

Vick in Atlanta was nothing but a glorified RB. Nothing more, nothing less. Carried the team? Not hardly. That team had good RBs (Dunn) and a decent defense lead by Abraham and Brooking. Let's not act like Vick carried the team. He didn't. If anything, he hindered that team due to him lacking ability at the QB spot.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;980712]Vick in Atlanta was nothing but a glorified RB. Nothing more, nothing less. Carried the team? Not hardly. That team had good RBs (Dunn) and a decent defense lead by Abraham and Brooking. Let's not act like Vick carried the team. He didn't. If anything, he hindered that team due to his lacking ability at the QB spot.[/QUOTE]

Idk man I think your being a little hard on the guy, defenses struggled to stop him from having good games. He's not Griffin or was I'm just saying Vick was no bum either. Also his first year in Philly was incredible

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Why do I still have to read nonsense from those on my ignore list (NCSkins)?

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[quote=The Goat;980714]Why do I still have to read nonsense from those on my ignore list (NCSkins)?[/quote]

Because I still have to read your idiotic and useless posts.

[QUOTE=The Goat;980714]Why do I still have to read nonsense from those on my ignore list (NCSkins)?[/QUOTE]

What did he say that was nonsense? Lol he's just giving his opinion on it.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;980716]What did he say that was nonsense? Lol he's just giving his opinion on it.[/quote]

The comment about Vick in Atlants...just nonsense. He was phenomenal. Could have been better undoubtedly if he actually studied, practiced and worked on his passing game.

I'm all for opinions, such as my (incorrect) one that Shanahan would not have a winning season again. But the past can be fact checked.

[QUOTE=The Goat;980718]The comment about Vick in Atlants...just nonsense. He was phenomenal. Could have been better undoubtedly if he actually studied, practiced and worked on his passing game.

I'm all for opinions, such as my (incorrect) one that Shanahan would not have a winning season again. But the past can be fact checked.[/QUOTE]

I agree about vick, guy was a stud in Atlanta just lazy obviously. And for opinions no doubt we all have some and are right or wrong about them no biggie

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[quote=The Goat;980718]The comment about Vick in Atlants...just nonsense. He was phenomenal. Could have been better undoubtedly if he actually studied, practiced and worked on his passing game.

I'm all for opinions, such as my (incorrect) one that Shanahan would not have a winning season again. But the past can be fact checked.[/quote]

yeah, Vick was a playmaker. first guy ever to get a road win in Green Bay in a playoff game. it was amazing. Vick still way behind as a passer in comparison to RG3.


Just my personal opinion, i dont like an ignore list. People should want to hear opinions no matter how crazy. Plus its funny when NC and Goat fight.

I agree. How hard is it to ignore something that's posted when you don't agree and can't mount a reasoned counter?

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[quote=Chico23231;980723]yeah, Vick was a playmaker. first guy ever to get a road win in Green Bay in a playoff game. it was amazing. Vick still way behind as a passer in comparison to vick.


Just my personal opinion, i dont like an ignore list. People should want to hear opinions no matter how crazy. Plus its funny when NC and Goat fight.[/quote]

Vick completed a season in which he had a 100.0 passer rating 2 years ago. I'm hoping that his skills aren't starting to erode. He's certainly a player of value playing for a bad team. Once he moves on to his third NFL team, he might start playing better again.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;980727]Vick completed a season in which he had a 100.0 passer rating 2 years ago. I'm hoping that his skills aren't starting to erode. He's certainly a player of value playing for a bad team. Once he moves on to his third NFL team, he might start playing better again.[/quote]

teams who want to fill their stadium will give him a chance. Sleeper team is Oakland imo

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i think that season may prove an outlier. I don't think he's terrible, but i don't think he's ever been nearly as game changing as all the hype.

atlanta season tickets went up over 25,000 seats after he was drafted though. so atlanta didn't make any kind of mistake in drafting him.

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[quote=That Guy;980730]i think that season may prove an outlier. I don't think he's terrible, but i don't think he's ever been nearly as game changing as all the hype.

atlanta season tickets went up over 25,000 seats after he was drafted though. so atlanta didn't make any kind of mistake in drafting him.[/quote]

id get rid of rexy and put him in the backfield with RGthiz-erd, let them run the option together. vick can still move with the best of them.

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Stud in Atlanta? Phenomenal? Sure, he was a stud at running the ball, but he was a absolute failure as a #1 QB. He couldn't touch Randall Cunningham's jock as a QB.

Let me ask you, are these the stats you expect to see from a guy being drafted #1 coming out of college to be your QB?

181 attempts
2065 yards
13 TDs
5 Ints


Had you told me the Redskins were going to draft a QB in the first round with these type of college stats I would drive to Landover and kick whoever drafted that person in the balls.

Vick was good at "making ESPN highlights" and "selling jerseys". His entire career in Atlanta, he surpassed 2,500 yards passing ONE time. Once and even then he didn't even manage 3,000 yards.

62,81,69,78,73,75

The above numbers are his QB rating numbers in Atlanta. Stud to you? Phenomenal? No, he was a flat out bust as a QB.

44,54,50,56,55,52

His completion percentage numbers above from his time in Atlanta. Stud? Phenomenal?

Vick was the best in the NFL at "making plays", but making plays doesn't win champsionships. Running the offense does. [I](These were the quote words used by Steve Young, but in reference to McNabb. Vick fits just as easily in this quote) [/I]

Much like Lohmiller, people's revision on Vick's history as a QB in Atlanta is much different than reality. :rolleyes:

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8788618/sean-payton-new-orleans-saints-agree-five-year-contract-extension-according-source]Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints agree to five-year contract extension, according to source - ESPN[/url]

Looks like Jerrah is getting screwed a couple times this weekend.

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[quote=Chico23231;980739][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8788618/sean-payton-new-orleans-saints-agree-five-year-contract-extension-according-source]Sean Payton, New Orleans Saints agree to five-year contract extension, according to source - ESPN[/url]

Looks like Jerrah is getting screwed a couple times this weekend.[/quote]

Get suspended for a year, lose your team draft picks and end up rewarded with a brand new 5 year deal. MURICA!!!

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[quote=NC_Skins;980737]Stud in Atlanta? Sure, he was a stud at running the ball, but he was a absolute failure as a #1 QB. He couldn't touch Randall Cunningham's jock as a QB.

Let me ask you, are these the stats you expect to see from a guy being drafted #1 coming out of college to be your QB?

181 attempts
2065 yards
13 TDs
5 Ints


Had you told me the Redskins were going to draft a QB in the first round with these type of college stats I would drive to Landover and kick whoever drafted that person in the balls.

Vick was good at "making ESPN highlights" and "selling jerseys". His entire career in Atlanta, he surpassed 2,500 yards passing ONE time. Once and even then he didn't even manage 3,000 yards.

62,81,69,78,73,75

The above numbers are his QB rating numbers in Atlanta. Stud to you? No, he was a flat out bust as a QB.

44,54,50,56,55,52

His completion percentage numbers above from his time in Atlanta. Stud?

Vick was the best in the NFL at "making plays", but making plays doesn't win champsionships. Running the offense does. [I](These were the quote words used by Steve Young, but in reference to McNabb. Vick fits just as easily in this quote) [/I]

Much like Lohmiller, people's revision on Vick's history as a QB in Atlanta is much different than reality. :rolleyes:[/quote]

Amen to this...Tyrod Taylor can do better than hi,

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[URL="http://www.courant.com/sports/football/giants/hc-giants-newtown-1229-20121228,0,7871111.story"]Newtown Tragedy: At Sunday's game against the Eagles, the Giants will host about 400 people from the Sandy Hook section of Newtown who were directly affected by the school shooting tragedy. - Courant.com[/URL]


Staff ReportThe Hartford Courant6:48 p.m. EST, December 28, 2012



The [URL="http://www.courant.com/topic/sports/football/new-york-giants-ORSPT000197.topic"][COLOR=#0066cc]New York Giants[/COLOR][/URL] will host more than 400 members of the Sandy Hook community directly affected by the tragic shooting of Dec. 14 on Sunday during the team's regular-season finale vs. the [URL="http://www.courant.com/topic/sports/football/philadelphia-eagles-ORSPT000211.topic"][COLOR=#0066cc]Philadelphia Eagles[/COLOR][/URL] at [URL="http://www.courant.com/topic/sports/football/metlife-stadium-PLREC000191.topic"][COLOR=#0066cc]MetLife Stadium[/COLOR][/URL], the [URL="http://www.courant.com/topic/sports/football/national-football-league-ORSPT000007.topic"][COLOR=#0066cc]NFL[/COLOR][/URL] team announced.
The Giants announced details in a press release Friday afternoon, saying they were expecting a at least 200 students and 200 parents, faculty and family members to attend. They will be escorted onto the field by 50 members of the Wounded Warriors veterans group, participate in a pregame ceremony and then watch the 1 p.m. game.
On the field, the group from Sandy Hook and the Wounded Warriors will form two lanes — one for each team — and the players will run through the lanes onto the field, the release said. Then the players, coaches, Sandy Hook residents and Wounded Warriors will form a circle for a moment of silence and the national anthem. The Giants are also providing bus transportation for the Newtown group

Lol. Vick is terrible.

7-3 Bears and the Lions just fumbled at their 24 yard line.

What does GSH on the left shoulder of the Bears uniform stand for?

[QUOTE=mooby;980934]What does GSH on the left shoulder of the Bears uniform stand for?[/QUOTE]

Former owner/pres of the Bears.

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[quote=mooby;980925]Lol. Vick is terrible.[/quote]

So is the Eagles o-line.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8793018/andy-reid-wants-coach-2013-fired-philadelphia-eagles-sources]Andy Reid wants to coach in 2013, if fired by Philadelphia Eagles -- sources - ESPN[/url]

Fat man is already planning his exit strategy.


Laughable that Vick said he saw himself in RGIII.....lol What a clown.

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The Texans are insisting on giving the Patriots a home playoff game :doh:

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Mark Sanchez back to normal....lol


4/8....14 yards....1 INT


I'm still laughing at that contract extension for Sanchez and trade for Tebow. You have to fire Rex and Tannebum after this season.

Vick has always been overrated. Folks here talk about gimmicks, Vick is the ultimate gimmick. His success has depended upon his athletic gifts and his ability to improvise. He is not and never will be a disciplined player who can succeed in multiple systems. As such, his style can't be replicated by other teams or QB's.

In his prime, he caught folks off guard, but as he has aged and slowed down, his glaring deficiencies as a QB become more and more obvious. They were always there but his freakish athletic gifts covered for them.

He is done and I, for one, am hopeful I dont have to watch this douche ever again.

His small brain in that large head is prone to concussions.

Man, what happened to Matt Stafford? I've never seen a qb have such highs (last year) and lows (this year) like he has.

Also, based off this Chi-Det game, it looks like a win-and-in, lose-and-out scenario for us.