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Torn ACL stadium will live on.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000139185/article/bruce-allen-redskins-wont-have-fieldturf-in-2013]Bruce Allen: Redskins won't have FieldTurf in 2013 - NFL.com[/url]

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FieldTurf.....is that the same as what I grew up with which we called/call Astro Turf?
Or is it the stuff with the shredded tires in it?

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Sweet! I love good ol natty grass !!

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Very stupid move, need to get that done. Why no explination?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994298]FieldTurf.....is that the same as what I grew up with which we called/call Astro Turf?
Or is it the stuff with the shredded tires in it?[/quote]

It's different no one in the NFL uses astro turf anymore. If I remember correctly.

Astro turf was the equivalent of a high school gym mat thrown over concrete. Really crappy stuff.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994298]FieldTurf.....is that the same as what I grew up with which we called/call Astro Turf?
Or is it the stuff with the shredded tires in it?[/quote]

Field Turf is not the sad old astroturf. It's the shredded tire stuff like they have in Detroit.

Personally I'm fine if we stick to grass.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;994310]Astro turf was the equivalent of a high school gym mat thrown over concrete. Really crappy stuff.[/quote]


You are being very kind!I actually practiced on it in the 70's,Schafer Stadium in Foxboro,it was concrete a 1/2 inch rubber sheet and outdoor carpet.The field had an arch to it,if you where on one sideline looking across the field you could not see from the knees on down on the other side.Kick a ball(punt in the middel of the field and you never knew which way it would go.When it got wet they would roll it to squeze out the water .The carpet burns were the worst.

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Good. Football is supposed to be played outside, on grass.
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Raise prices by over 50% on season tickets but he won't do what it takes to protect the safety of his players.

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[quote=Lotus;994312]Field Turf is not the sad old astroturf. It's the shredded tire stuff like they have in Detroit.

Personally I'm fine if we stick to grass.[/quote]

I'm fine with grass, so long as it can actually be maintained this year. That game against Seattle was a disgrace.

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[quote=Chico23231;994300]Very stupid move, need to get that done. Why no explination?[/quote]

I don't understand why everyone wants field turf. Lots of players get hurt on this surface. Other stadiums have nice natural grass and don't have issues. The question is why can't we get our grass maintenance to be as nicely kept up as other team's facilities?

FA priority #1. Field maintenance team!!!

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I prefer real grass, if maintained.

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Players complain about the field turf too, and it's rougher on the knees, maybe not a good idea when you have a QB coming off knee surgery?

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[quote=Monkeydad;994357]I prefer real grass, if maintained.[/quote]

Pittsburgh re-sods (or does something similar) halfway through the season. BA said that the Skins didn't do that last year, but will going forward.

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What they should do is put down brand new grass and not schedule any events at FedEx during the football season. If you continuing having these concerts, soccer and football games there during the season, it's simply going to destroy the grass.


I think you'll see what Dan cherishes more. His players safety or money.



This is how grass is supposed to be for a outdoor football stadium.

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Our crew does a excellent job at keeping the field in top shape all year long. (especially the football season)

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[quote=cpayne5;994319]Good. Football is supposed to be played outside, on grass.
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Whatever Ron Swanson says works for me.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994365]What they should do is put down brand new grass and not schedule any events at FedEx during the football season. If you continuing having these concerts, soccer and football games there during the season, it's simply going to destroy the grass.


I think you'll see what Dan cherishes more. His players safety or money.



This is how grass is supposed to be for a outdoor football stadium.

[IMG]http://www.studentpirateclub.com/default/assets/Image/StadiumTLS10b.jpg[/IMG]

Our crew does a excellent job at keeping the field in top shape all year long. (especially the football season)[/quote]

I'm sure PG county would for DS to stop holding events there for half the year. They'll be all over that idea. The place exists to hold events, 10 a year are football games. Don't ignore the fact that owning the Redskins isn't the only thing DS does. He is a business guy and owning Fedex means using it to make money.

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Some of you really make me shake my head.
I've watched the Redskins have some of their greatest wins in the sloppy mud trenches of RFK back in the day.
It was 10 times worse than that Seattle game.
Maybe we should give the players silk hankies and Grey Poupon during the game too.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994378]Some of you really make me shake my head.
I've watched the Redskins have some of their greatest wins in the sloppy mud trenches of RFK back in the day.
It was 10 times worse than that Seattle game.
Maybe we should give the players silk hankies and Grey Poupon during the game too.[/quote]

Exactly! That's why I thought it was kind of "pantyish" of the media, especially Pete Carroll as well, to bitch and moan about the playing field when I've seen the Redskins play on much, much worse and have some of their greatest games on such fields.

The biggest mistake was it wasn't re-sodded during the bye week. They'll hopefully take care of that this season, and the 'skins will WIN their playoff game(s) there this year.

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[quote=NC_Skins;994365]What they should do is put down brand new grass and not schedule any events at FedEx during the football season. If you continuing having these concerts, soccer and football games there during the season, it's simply going to destroy the grass.


[B]I think you'll see what Dan cherishes more. His players safety or money.[/B]



This is how grass is supposed to be for a outdoor football stadium.

[IMG]http://www.studentpirateclub.com/default/assets/Image/StadiumTLS10b.jpg[/IMG]

Our crew does a excellent job at keeping the field in top shape all year long. (especially the football season)[/quote]


These types of responses are so stupid. His player safty = $$$$$$. Also he has shown over and over again he will spend money on the team so that's not even an issue.

ECU
[B]Playing Surface[/B] During the summer of 1983, a complete renovation was done on the playing surface. A new drainage system, a new base of gravel and sand, new treated topsoil, and a new grass--Tifton 419 Hybrid Bermuda--was installed.

Bermuda would be nice in DC but it would be dormant by the begining of November.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;994378]Some of you really make me shake my head.
I've watched the Redskins have some of their greatest wins in the sloppy mud trenches of RFK back in the day.
It was 10 times worse than that Seattle game.
Maybe we should give the players silk hankies and Grey Poupon during the game too.[/quote]

No doubt!! Thats what i said weeks ago! Go look at the 82 NFC Championship game and the 91 Championship game!! Live on Natty grass live on!!

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You will not see any of those types of fields again with the drainage they now use under the turf.

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[quote=FRPLG;994376]I'm sure PG county would for DS to stop holding events there for half the year. They'll be all over that idea. The place exists to hold events, 10 a year are football games. [B] Don't ignore the fact that owning the Redskins isn't the only thing DS does. He is a business guy and owning Fedex means using it to make money.[/B][/quote]

I think I acknowledged that by saying "we'll see if Dan cherishes his players safety over money. If he continues holding events, then the answer is he cherishes money more.


[quote=firstdown;994387]These types of responses are so stupid. His player safty = $$$$$$. Also he has shown over and over again he will spend money on the team so that's not even an issue.[/quote]

How is it stupid response? It's a correct response. Spending money on player salaries doesn't mean you are spending money on player safety. The two doesn't go hand and hand. These are the same guys that pushed for a 18 game season so I think it's quite evident that owners aren't genuine in their push for player safety.

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Plans to take care of the field / not change the team name
from BA

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskins-gm-says-team-not-001924178--nfl.html]Y! SPORTS[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;994397]I think I acknowledged that by saying "we'll see if Dan cherishes his players safety over money. If he continues holding events, then the answer is he cherishes money more.




How is it stupid response? It's a correct response. Spending money on player salaries doesn't mean you are spending money on player safety. The two doesn't go hand and hand. These are the same guys that pushed for a 18 game season so I think it's quite evident that owners aren't genuine in their push for player safety.[/quote]

If he *really* cared abut their safety he would pay them to sit on the sideline and forfeit every game.

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[quote=FRPLG;994402]If he *really* cared abut their safety he would pay them to sit on the sideline and forfeit every game.[/quote]

Exactly. Like most things in life, it's a balancing act. Lots of teams play on natural grass, it just needs to be kept up better, which they have already said they intend to do.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;994404]Exactly. Like most things in life, it's a balancing act. Lots of teams play on natural grass, it just needs to be kept up better, which they have already said they intend to do.[/quote]

Chicagos field is god awful. I remember one year they put new grass in half the field from the 35 to the other 35 yard line, and how many torn acls occured then? None that I can think of.

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[URL="http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/FedExField-Surface-Contingent-On-Schedule/88c373fd-51af-4b2a-9672-7c006ab85498"]2013 Field [/URL]

[I]As long as there is enough time between games to allow the grass to take hold, the Redskins will plan to have fresh a fresh surface at the end of the 2013 season.

"We missed an opportunity last year in the window between the seventh game and the tenth game to resod the field," he said. "Obviously it’s not going to grow, we’re not in Florida, but we think it’s going to address the playing field in December and January."
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Not sure why everyone is complaining - it's been over 1-2 months now. The turf did not cause RG3's injury, he was injured for weeks and an awkward run at the goal line worsened it. AstroTurf or MoonTurf wouldn't have made a difference. Clemons.. well - he was on the other team at least..

It's football, a man's game. They play in rain, snow and sleet and we're supposed to care that it gets muddy in December?

And yes, I get it, nothing else to talk about this time of year.

[QUOTE=Lotus;994312]Field Turf is not the sad old astroturf. It's the shredded tire stuff like they have in Detroit.

Personally I'm fine if we stick to grass.[/QUOTE]

Is that any safer? I've played on field turf before and being the world class athlete that I am, I can say it's not too bad. You do get the rubber pellets everywhere though.

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[quote=hooskins;994928]Is that any safer? I've played on field turf before and being the world class athlete that I am, I can say it's not too bad. You do get the rubber pellets everywhere though.[/quote]

I played on the old astroturf and have walked on Field Turf. IMO they are two different animals. Astroturf was a green covering over concrete and was terrible. Field Turf has much more give to it.

One of the arguments I hate the most is, it was that way back in the day so it will be fine to continue with. It really makes no sense to me, things evolve. I don't necessarily think it has to be field turf, but I would think that would be better with these hellish winters the dc area has seen as of late. Regardless something needs to and will be done. But to say its just fine as is and tough it up seems kinda ludicrous.

For me as a fan I enjoy a completely level playing field with conditions at the best when watching games. It's fun to watch a sloppy game every now and then. But I'll take a good well matched game with the only advantage being location any day of the week.

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Just put domes in every NFL city.
End of story.
Then they can just rotate the super bowl in alphabetical order and stop this bidding crap.

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[quote=hooskins;994928]Is that any safer? I've played on field turf before and being the world class athlete that I am, I can say it's not too bad. You do get the rubber pellets[B] everywhere though[/B].[/quote]

Everywhere?

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The NFL has been a safety oriented league for some time now. Under Roger Goodell's leadership, reforms within the NFL have come at a blazing rate, and now, the NFL is eyeing another way to improve player safety on the field.

According to Clark Judge of CBS Sports, the NFL will be "more proactive" when deciding if a field needs to be re-sod.

The current rule is rather decentralized. Every individual team determines whether their playing surface is safe enough to play on, and the league has no particular responsibility in approving such determinations.

“Going forward, we’re going to be much more proactive about making sure we, at the league level, make determinations, particularly with natural surfaces, later in the year subject to weather factors,” Ray Anderson, the NFL's vice president of football operations said. “We must be more attentive and more assertive about when certain standards or re-soding or maintenance needs to be redone.”

While the specifics of what exactly "more proactive" mean aren't clear, it seems as if the NFL will simply try to push teams towards re-soding their fields if the playing surface becomes questionable. If that doesn't work, look for the NFL to push for a centralized method of determining when to re-sod fields.

This is a policy that should have been introduced years ago, and it probably doesn't go far enough in its effort to improve player safety. There's no doubt that the high-profile injury to Robert Griffin III, which was largely blamed on the playing surface's poor quality, pushed the league towards more oversight in the matter, and hopefully playing surfaces will be held to a higher standard moving forward.



[url=http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/nfl_to_be_proactive_in_evaluating_field_quality/12963064]NFL to be proactive about field quality[/url]

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Stupid that RG3 is even mentioned with the turf. ^

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[quote=Mattyk;995099]Stupid that RG3 is even mentioned with the turf. ^[/quote]

It sure wasn't kneeded.

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Both have their pro's and con's. Can't say RGIII's injury happened because of the grass. Happened because he got lit up against the Ravens for not knowing when to get down. Or you could go further and say Shanahan not having the common sense to yank him when he was hobbling around on the field.

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[quote=Mattyk;995099]Stupid that RG3 is even mentioned with the turf. ^[/quote]

Yes, his initial injury happened in mid-air.