DRAFT Nightmare!!!!
 

Titans - "Pacman" Jones
Bucs - Mike Williams
Cardinals - artrell rolle
Vikings- Braylon Edwards

THIS IS A NIGHTMARE SCANARIO!!!!!!!!!!!

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I've heard the Bucs are high on him... BMW and Clayton would be a nightmare 1-2 punch for Gruden's offense... it's his hometown too.

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Who cares about NFL draft countdown. Who cares about any mock. They mean didly squat. There are plenty of players available in the first round with great talent to take. So if we don't get pac-man or williams oh well. Plenty of other players available.

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If the Cards take Antrel I will be pissed but I think a running back might be more pressing because we know how good Hammbrick is.

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don't be ridiculous..!! there are many good options, including trading down for more picks and taking someone other than the 4 guys as above.

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Although the players you mention are the top players in the draft, remember the later round players that became stars such as Joe Montana. And people must've scratched their heads when the Redskins drafted Darrell Green........the problem is do the Redskins have decent scouts to find these players. I wouldnt mind trading down.

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Most definitely. Especially if we sign Brown and someone else takes Williams, I would welcome the prospect of trading down.

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[QUOTE=PSUskinsfan11]If the Cards take Antrel I will be pissed but I think a running back might be more pressing because we know how good Hammbrick is.[/QUOTE]

plus the cards might wind up trading for alexander.

there's still over 4 weeks for things to happen and cause teams to adjust their draft plans, but this is fun sometimes with all the speculation. I know personally that draft day can't come fast enough 4 me.

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Man I say we draft Travis Johnson. Us skins fans have seen just how much a dominating D-tackle can help a defense. Imagine C Grif. and Johnson in the middle with Lavar and Marcus coming on the outside. Incredible.

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This is silly. We can't fret of what might happen! At our position (#9, I think), we will have the availability to draft a very good player, hopefully a starter. Maybe even move down, and get another second or third. However, in case we stick with our #1, we shouldn't stretch for any one position. So, it may be in the best interest of the skins to take the best avilable from OL, DL, CB, or LB.

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TRADE DOWN!!! There is plenty we can get and use. We could still get a good player later in the round. I am no longer enticed by big name player, who come to Washington. Give me a hard nose player at a good reasonable pick while helping the Skins obtain more talent...wait I am sorry this cant happen in todays game. F*(^ it, go for the top pick and get treated to "hot garbage" picks of the past like Westbrooke, Desmond Howard and Rod "its the offenses fault I have butterfingers" gardner.
sorry I couldn't let an oppurtunity to rank on gardner go bye...
The past says to trade down!

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I would be very surprised if Tampa, or Arizona went with anything other than a RB, Gruden I believe is looking for another C.Garner, I believe Cadillac William's is exactly what he want's in a RB, Arizona will take whoever is left they may get the steal of the draft if Benson fall's to them at 8.

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We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.[/QUOTE]


Confused by two things:
1. Who is the mediocre cornerback? Pac-Man Jones (who runs a 4.45 40 and has a 37"+ vertical, and is regarded by every scout as an outstanding shutdown corner) or Antrel Rolle (a 6', 200+lbs cornerback who is a great cover-man and a tremendous tackler)?
2. Taking the "best player available" does not always equate to a successful draft pick. If this mock draft is correct, and the top two WRs and CBs are taken when #9 rolls around, the Skins (who don't have a second round pick, yet again) would absolutely be best served trading down a few spots to acquire an additional pick(s). Why would they make a stretch on the 3rd best CB or WR when they could get them later in the draft? And why would they simply opt for the "best player available"? What if the best player available is a RB, or an OLB, or a Safety? That, to me, doesn't make sense. Just my opinion.

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its deep at center and corner, you trade down for better value when you're pick would have you overpaying someone you don't really need to have or isn't worth the price... its nice that you're all-knowing and anyone who has a different opinion is a dipshit though - it really shows your intelligence.

Mocks!
 

Mocks are only to be looked at in general! Do not think any one Mock has the concession on any other Mock. Use all of them, and realize, after we make our pick, we picked wisely! At the time of each draft, it always appears we get the best player available. Howard, Westbrook, Gardner all appeard to be solid during that particular draft. I'm not mocking the Mocks! I'm saying don't get all caught up in just one as a favorite, or another favorite! Realize that the guy we get will appear on most mocks somewhere near, or right dead on the spot we indeed draft at! It is all in opinions! Each of the 32 teams have their own opinion, just as we do. Just don't run you life by prospective mocks!

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.[/QUOTE]

:Smoker:

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Very succinct Matty. lol

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21]Confused by two things:
1. Who is the mediocre cornerback? Pac-Man Jones (who runs a 4.45 40 and has a 37"+ vertical, and is regarded by every scout as an outstanding shutdown corner) or Antrel Rolle (a 6', 200+lbs cornerback who is a great cover-man and a tremendous tackler)?
2. Taking the "best player available" does not always equate to a successful draft pick. If this mock draft is correct, and the top two WRs and CBs are taken when #9 rolls around, the Skins (who don't have a second round pick, yet again) would absolutely be best served trading down a few spots to acquire an additional pick(s). Why would they make a stretch on the 3rd best CB or WR when they could get them later in the draft? And why would they simply opt for the "best player available"? What if the best player available is a RB, or an OLB, or a Safety? That, to me, doesn't make sense. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

You DO NOT..........repeat..........DO NOT....draft a "mediocre" cornerback with the #9 overall. What about that do you not understand. Unless it is proven that he is a pure shutodwn corner, which he is not, do you even think about it.

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I can list for you just as many 1st round busts as I can 1st round gems over the last 5-10 years, so if you have a knack for scouting talent (i.e. Cooley) then you may want to trade down to get a few "Real Redskins" rather than an over priced star that may never pan out.

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]You DO NOT..........repeat..........DO NOT....draft a "mediocre" cornerback with the #9 overall. What about that do you not understand. Unless it is proven that he is a pure shutodwn corner, which he is not, do you even think about it.[/QUOTE]

So just so we all understand what you're saying is that the "best" cornerbacks in this year's draft, Rolle and Pac-Man, are "mediocre" and therefore are not worthy of being the #9 pick

Is that what you're saying?

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Cooley???????? Is that the best you can do? You homers act like he dominated. He was just another sad, putrid, overhyped part of our crappy offense.

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Whaaaaaaaat?! There was no hype to COloey whatsoever. HE was a go-ottoo guy andd just contintued to play soild all year. It wasntt like hwas our first round p ic k and we expected alot ouf of him.

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]Cooley???????? Is that the best you can do? You homers act like he dominated. He was just another sad, putrid, overhyped part of our crappy offense.[/QUOTE]

Cooley didn't dominate, nor was he "sad" or "putrid". He may have been overhyped by Redskins fans desperately searching for a "Redskins guy"-throwback kind of player, but he was very solid for a rookie, regardless of whether he played in crappy offense-- which he did.

It's certainly debatable whether he was worth trading away this year's 2nd round pick, but he was definitely one of the few bright spots in an otherwise dismal year offensively.

I think a lot of people got excited by Cooley's potential, and whenever he was able to make a good play-- and he did make a few this past season-- it just elevated the enthusiasm some of us have for him, particularly since there was little else to be excited about.

He has a long way to go before he becomes a "dominate" player-- and maybe he never will-- but I think a big part of the reason that people are so excited about him is the fact that he is a genuine, humble, likeable guy-- much like Skins fan favorites of the past.

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]Cooley???????? Is that the best you can do? You homers act like he dominated. He was just another sad, putrid, overhyped part of our crappy offense.[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:

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I laso dont think our offense is crappyp. We have an asload of playmeakers, we just need sto open it up more.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I laso dont think our offense is crappyp. We have an asload of playmeakers, we just need sto open it up more.[/QUOTE]

drew54 would have a blast with this post!

I'm going to have to ask you to stop posting young man. You're drunk. to prove that you're not post the alphabet...backwards

:food-smil

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]Cooley???????? Is that the best you can do? You homers act like he dominated. He was just another sad, putrid, overhyped part of our crappy offense.[/QUOTE]


I don't think Cooley is an all pro or anything, but there were only 4 TEs that had more TDs than him, Bubba Franks, Tony Gonzales, Daniel Graham and Antonio Gates (he was tied with Marcus Pollard, Alge Crumpler, Jason Witten and Jeremy Shockey), personally I think that pretty good company as far as TEs go

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ith ink im a little oldd to be posting and rinkign... i determind that due to lack of desginted driver im goin to buy a 6 of killinas and dirnk it here until i either pass out or grow ewweary of drunken acntics and I NEVER grow wearyy of drunken acntics

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and i rmemebr a time TAfKAS when you said "yyes, me nnd the others will met me one day..." yes, jsut wait until the sseason starts, we're getting nas many people as we can toghether and we're pregaming liek mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Cooley should play TE not H-Back. They did not throw the ball nearly enough to him last yr.

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If Cooley is one of the best players on our offense.........then we are in HUGE trouble.

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[QUOTE=John Hasbrouck]Cooley should play TE not H-Back. They did not throw the ball nearly enough to him last yr.[/QUOTE]
I dont know about that, he did have 6 touchdowns last year!!

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]If Cooley is one of the best players on our offense.........then we are in HUGE trouble.[/QUOTE]
So you are saying that Cooley is not one of the best players on our offense? I mean what else does a late drafted rookie have to do? Like I said he did score 6 recieving touchdowns playing H-back as a rookie. I would say that he is one of our best offensive players!!

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]You DO NOT..........repeat..........DO NOT....draft a "mediocre" cornerback with the #9 overall. What about that do you not understand. Unless it is proven that he is a pure shutodwn corner, which he is not, do you even think about it.[/QUOTE]

Then why draft a CB at all? Thats the problem with the draft, you never know what you are getting as far as talent goes. Look at how many players are drafted at the #1 spot and end up on there asses in the NFL.

Do you think that the chargers believe that they were drafting a "mediocre" QB when they drafted Leaf? Or how about when the Redskins drafted Heath Shuler, I suppose that they felt he was pretty "mediocre" so they thought what the the hell let's just wast our 1st round pick on a "mediocre" QB.

My point is that until any draft prospect plays in the NFL no one really knows who is "mediocre" and who is the second coming of Deion Sanders.

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i don't think he's a kins fan at all guys s:P probably just zack mills back for more or a philly fan with too much free time. He doesn't really care for reason or discussion for that matter...

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[QUOTE=SKINZ_DOMIN8]You DO NOT..........repeat..........DO NOT....draft a "mediocre" cornerback with the #9 overall. What about that do you not understand. Unless it is proven that he is a pure shutodwn corner, which he is not, do you even think about it.

Cooley???????? Is that the best you can do? You homers act like he dominated. He was just another sad, putrid, overhyped part of our crappy offense.
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First, no offense man, but please put down the crack pipe and wait a few hours before posting messages.

Now, since you've addressed my post directly, I will tell you what I don't "understand". As I said in my post before (and I'm still waiting on the answer to this), WHO DO YOU CLAIM IS A "MEDIOCRE" CORNERBACK? What don't YOU understand about a simple question like THAT? If you're claiming that Rolle or Jones are "mediocre" CBs, then please see my "crack pipe" comment above because you are the only person in America who doesn't consider them first-tier cornerbacks. In fact, most experts agree that Carlos Rogers is also worthy of a middle to late 1st round pick.

As for the comment about Cooley being "overhyped"? Can you please explain to me how a 3rd round rookie was ever overhyped? I'm pretty sure being drafted in the 3rd round prevents anyone from being overhyped.

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[QUOTE=That Guy]i don't think he's a kins fan at all guys s:P probably just zack mills back for more or a philly fan with too much free time. He doesn't really care for reason or discussion for that matter...[/QUOTE]

Hey now, easy on my PSU boys. As for the Philly fan comment: you're probably dead on the money there. I'm still yet to meet my first "reasonable" Philly fan.

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I beat the crap out of someone on PS2 2k5 last night. He was the Eagles. I laughed and laughed, and laughed. And Im laughing now.

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21] I'm pretty sure being drafted in the 3rd round prevents anyone from being overhyped.[/QUOTE]

except when clarrett gets drafted after the 3rd round this year.