DRAFT Nightmare!!!!

NFLNetwork · 03-16-2005, 09:03 PM

Titans - "Pacman" Jones
Bucs - Mike Williams
Cardinals - artrell rolle
Vikings- Braylon Edwards

THIS IS A NIGHTMARE SCANARIO!!!!!!!!!!!

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itvnetop · 03-16-2005, 09:19 PM

I've heard the Bucs are high on him... BMW and Clayton would be a nightmare 1-2 punch for Gruden's offense... it's his hometown too.

skin4Life28 · 03-16-2005, 09:31 PM

Who cares about NFL draft countdown. Who cares about any mock. They mean didly squat. There are plenty of players available in the first round with great talent to take. So if we don't get pac-man or williams oh well. Plenty of other players available.

PSUskinsfan11 · 03-16-2005, 09:33 PM

If the Cards take Antrel I will be pissed but I think a running back might be more pressing because we know how good Hammbrick is.

shallyshal · 03-16-2005, 09:48 PM

don't be ridiculous..!! there are many good options, including trading down for more picks and taking someone other than the 4 guys as above.

monk81 · 03-16-2005, 10:14 PM

Although the players you mention are the top players in the draft, remember the later round players that became stars such as Joe Montana. And people must've scratched their heads when the Redskins drafted Darrell Green........the problem is do the Redskins have decent scouts to find these players. I wouldnt mind trading down.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-16-2005, 11:12 PM

Most definitely. Especially if we sign Brown and someone else takes Williams, I would welcome the prospect of trading down.

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-16-2005, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSUskinsfan11

If the Cards take Antrel I will be pissed but I think a running back might be more pressing because we know how good Hammbrick is.

plus the cards might wind up trading for alexander.

there's still over 4 weeks for things to happen and cause teams to adjust their draft plans, but this is fun sometimes with all the speculation. I know personally that draft day can't come fast enough 4 me.

skins009 · 03-17-2005, 12:07 AM

Man I say we draft Travis Johnson. Us skins fans have seen just how much a dominating D-tackle can help a defense. Imagine C Grif. and Johnson in the middle with Lavar and Marcus coming on the outside. Incredible.

lifetimeskin · 03-17-2005, 12:58 AM

This is silly. We can't fret of what might happen! At our position (#9, I think), we will have the availability to draft a very good player, hopefully a starter. Maybe even move down, and get another second or third. However, in case we stick with our #1, we shouldn't stretch for any one position. So, it may be in the best interest of the skins to take the best avilable from OL, DL, CB, or LB.

2BIG2BSKINNY · 03-17-2005, 12:58 AM

TRADE DOWN!!! There is plenty we can get and use. We could still get a good player later in the round. I am no longer enticed by big name player, who come to Washington. Give me a hard nose player at a good reasonable pick while helping the Skins obtain more talent...wait I am sorry this cant happen in todays game. F*(^ it, go for the top pick and get treated to "hot garbage" picks of the past like Westbrooke, Desmond Howard and Rod "its the offenses fault I have butterfingers" gardner.
sorry I couldn't let an oppurtunity to rank on gardner go bye...
The past says to trade down!

offiss · 03-17-2005, 01:39 AM

I would be very surprised if Tampa, or Arizona went with anything other than a RB, Gruden I believe is looking for another C.Garner, I believe Cadillac William's is exactly what he want's in a RB, Arizona will take whoever is left they may get the steal of the draft if Benson fall's to them at 8.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 · 03-17-2005, 06:22 AM

We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-17-2005, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKINZ_DOMIN8

We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick.

And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.

Confused by two things:
1. Who is the mediocre cornerback? Pac-Man Jones (who runs a 4.45 40 and has a 37"+ vertical, and is regarded by every scout as an outstanding shutdown corner) or Antrel Rolle (a 6', 200+lbs cornerback who is a great cover-man and a tremendous tackler)?
2. Taking the "best player available" does not always equate to a successful draft pick. If this mock draft is correct, and the top two WRs and CBs are taken when #9 rolls around, the Skins (who don't have a second round pick, yet again) would absolutely be best served trading down a few spots to acquire an additional pick(s). Why would they make a stretch on the 3rd best CB or WR when they could get them later in the draft? And why would they simply opt for the "best player available"? What if the best player available is a RB, or an OLB, or a Safety? That, to me, doesn't make sense. Just my opinion.

That Guy · 03-17-2005, 09:01 AM

its deep at center and corner, you trade down for better value when you're pick would have you overpaying someone you don't really need to have or isn't worth the price... its nice that you're all-knowing and anyone who has a different opinion is a dipshit though - it really shows your intelligence.

03-16-2005, 09:19 PM	#2
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 47 Posts: 3,007	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! I've heard the Bucs are high on him... BMW and Clayton would be a nightmare 1-2 punch for Gruden's offense... it's his hometown too.

03-16-2005, 09:31 PM	#3
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! Who cares about NFL draft countdown. Who cares about any mock. They mean didly squat. There are plenty of players available in the first round with great talent to take. So if we don't get pac-man or williams oh well. Plenty of other players available.

03-16-2005, 09:33 PM	#4
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! If the Cards take Antrel I will be pissed but I think a running back might be more pressing because we know how good Hammbrick is.

03-16-2005, 09:48 PM	#5
shallyshal Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 336	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! don't be ridiculous..!! there are many good options, including trading down for more picks and taking someone other than the 4 guys as above.

03-16-2005, 10:14 PM	#6
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! Although the players you mention are the top players in the draft, remember the later round players that became stars such as Joe Montana. And people must've scratched their heads when the Redskins drafted Darrell Green........the problem is do the Redskins have decent scouts to find these players. I wouldnt mind trading down. __________________ "It's absolutely criminal, in my opinion, that Monk has yet to be enshrined (in the Pro-Football Hall of Fame)" Dan Arkush PFW

03-16-2005, 09:03 PM	#1
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03-16-2005, 11:12 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! Most definitely. Especially if we sign Brown and someone else takes Williams, I would welcome the prospect of trading down. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-17-2005, 12:07 AM	#9
skins009 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 528	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! Man I say we draft Travis Johnson. Us skins fans have seen just how much a dominating D-tackle can help a defense. Imagine C Grif. and Johnson in the middle with Lavar and Marcus coming on the outside. Incredible.

03-17-2005, 12:58 AM	#10
lifetimeskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 59 Posts: 84	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! This is silly. We can't fret of what might happen! At our position (#9, I think), we will have the availability to draft a very good player, hopefully a starter. Maybe even move down, and get another second or third. However, in case we stick with our #1, we shouldn't stretch for any one position. So, it may be in the best interest of the skins to take the best avilable from OL, DL, CB, or LB. __________________ ---lifetime skin

03-17-2005, 12:58 AM	#11
2BIG2BSKINNY Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Franklin, TN Posts: 214	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! TRADE DOWN!!! There is plenty we can get and use. We could still get a good player later in the round. I am no longer enticed by big name player, who come to Washington. Give me a hard nose player at a good reasonable pick while helping the Skins obtain more talent...wait I am sorry this cant happen in todays game. F*(^ it, go for the top pick and get treated to "hot garbage" picks of the past like Westbrooke, Desmond Howard and Rod "its the offenses fault I have butterfingers" gardner. sorry I couldn't let an oppurtunity to rank on gardner go bye... The past says to trade down!

03-17-2005, 01:39 AM	#12
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! I would be very surprised if Tampa, or Arizona went with anything other than a RB, Gruden I believe is looking for another C.Garner, I believe Cadillac William's is exactly what he want's in a RB, Arizona will take whoever is left they may get the steal of the draft if Benson fall's to them at 8.

03-17-2005, 06:22 AM	#13
SKINZ_DOMIN8 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 69	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! We don't need another "mediocre" Cornerback. It would be extremely stupid to take one with the overall #9 pick so I hope he is gone way before we pick. And all these dips**** that want to "trade down" simply astound me with their lack of logic. Yeah trade down. That will make us a lot better instead of taking the best available player (so long as its not a cb). Besides, you have to find someone to trade with you and this draft is not that deep in talent IMO.

03-17-2005, 09:01 AM	#15
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: DRAFT Nightmare!!!! its deep at center and corner, you trade down for better value when you're pick would have you overpaying someone you don't really need to have or isn't worth the price... its nice that you're all-knowing and anyone who has a different opinion is a dipshit though - it really shows your intelligence.

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