Turner Reflects on Coaching Redskins
 

Turner Reflects on Coaching Redskins

By BARRY WILNER, AP Football Writer

Tuesday, March 22, 2005

(03-22) 15:51 PST KAPALUA, Hawaii (AP) --

Norv Turner thought the Washington Redskins were heading toward the Super Bowl after he coached them to the NFC East title in 1999. Instead, it turned out to be their last winning record and Turner was fired late in the 2000 season.

"I thought we had a bright future," Turner, now the coach of the Oakland Raiders, said Tuesday at the NFL meetings. "We had a good young nucleus that we were building on. It's kind of how Philadelphia has been building their team. Instead they decided to go in a different direction, signing older players for big money."

"They" in this case was Daniel Snyder, who bought the team in 1999, fired general manager Charley Casserly, then canned Turner. His direction was obvious: sign aging stars such as Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders to try and win quickly.

Turner was asked if he was talking directly about Snyder, although the questioner added: "You don't have to bite."

"I won't bite," the coach replied with a smile.
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Interesting.

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Why is the media always trying to get Norv to talk trash about the Skins?

Good coordinator, mediocre head coach, but Norv has always been a classy guy.

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The reason: just to make something out of nothing.

Don't we already have enough former players and coaches talking crap about us?

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Why is the media always trying to get [I]ANYONE [/I] to talk trash about the Skins? Don't they do a good enough job with it already?

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Norv was building towards a Super Bowl???????? His 8 year plan was about to come to fruition? Who is he kidding? You know, there are a lot of people in the NFL that have the resume to throw stones at Danny boy but Norv is certainly not one of them. Clean it up Norv...

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[QUOTE=rickmmrr]Turner Reflects on Coaching Redskins

By BARRY WILNER, AP Football Writer

Tuesday, March 22, 2005

(03-22) 15:51 PST KAPALUA, Hawaii (AP) --

Norv Turner thought the Washington Redskins were heading toward the Super Bowl after he coached them to the NFC East title in 1999. Instead, it turned out to be their last winning record and Turner was fired late in the 2000 season.

"I thought we had a bright future," Turner, now the coach of the Oakland Raiders, said Tuesday at the NFL meetings. "We had a good young nucleus that we were building on. It's kind of how Philadelphia has been building their team. Instead they decided to go in a different direction, signing older players for big money."

"They" in this case was Daniel Snyder, who bought the team in 1999, fired general manager Charley Casserly, then canned Turner. His direction was obvious: sign aging stars such as Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders to try and win quickly.

Turner was asked if he was talking directly about Snyder, although the questioner added: "You don't have to bite."

"I won't bite," the coach replied with a smile
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Interesting.[/QUOTE]


If Norv would of had a field goal kicker that year we would of won a lot more games. After 6 season you would think by the 7th year as head coach you would have had a field goal kicker.

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Was that when we still had Chip?

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Now now.... as much as we thought Norv to be an ineffective coach, you can't help but feel sorry for the guy for the way he was fired..Dan Snyder called him in on an off day, and made him wait three hours, and then had someone else inform Turner that he'd been canned. Not at all a classy move by Snyder.

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true norv did have 8 years, and he is as soft as wet bread, but, don't forget, we were how close to going to the NFC champ. game that year? We lost to Tampa 14-13, remember the Super Bowl Rams could only score 11 against that Tampa D.

We had a good young team with a QB that threw for over 4000 yards, two WR's with over a 1000 yards and a RB with over 1400 yards...thats the best offensive team, yards wise the redskins have ever had!

The next year Norv got fired with a winning record, and his last game he lost 9-7! Like him or not, the man got screwed.

You ask me right now, who do I dislike more, Norv or the Danny? I have to say The Danny.

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In case I missed something, what did Norv say here that was bad??

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Nothing. People just started bashing him for no reason. He IMPLIED something about Dan, but that's it.

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Yeah, we really didn't have a kicker that year. I remember thinking that even if that last snap wasn't botched, we probably still wouldn't have made the kick. We had awful kickers that year.

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All water under the bridge to me. If we needed to go through 8 years of Norv, 1 of Marty, 2 of Spurrier, and countless free agent mistakes in order to get Joe Gibbs back, then it was well worth it.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]All water under the bridge to me. If we needed to go through 8 years of Norv, 1 of Marty, 2 of Spurrier, and countless free agent mistakes in order to get Joe Gibbs back, then it was well worth it.[/QUOTE]

Amen............... Well said

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What did Norv say bad??? Nothing, he was just a miserable coach for 8 years. With 2 minutes left the half and we are down by 14 he decides to run out the clock by kneeling down on the ball. Talk about giving up.

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I always liked Norms for his ideas, he just was not a good leader of men. Having a head strong guy like Snyder take over had to have made his tenure miserable.

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[QUOTE=Skinsfanforlife]If Norv would of had a field goal kicker that year we would of won a lot more games. After 6 season you would think by the 7th year as head coach you would have had a field goal kicker.[/QUOTE]

A BIG AMEN TO THAT !! :food-smil

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the redskins had great offenses under turner,and awful defenses.if you offense scores 50 points a game,but your defense gives up 55,you ai'nt winning many games.i think that snyder made a HUGE mistake firing turner when he did though.he should have let him coach the rest of the year.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]In case I missed something, what did Norv say here that was bad??[/QUOTE]

I just don't want to hear a guy who had 8 years imply that he was close to turning a corner. He's not a bad guy and he didn't say anything that bad, but I just don't want to hear him say he was getting close 8 years in. Coaches now adays are on the hot seat after 2 years. He's a terrible football coach. The worst in a long line of bad decisions Danny made was firing Charley C & keeping Norvel...

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I still wonder what would have happend if Snyder didn't go on that famous spending spree. Norv is right, we did have a nice core on offense, we had BJ throw for over 4000 yards that year, Connell and Westbrook were both 1000 yard WRs, Davis ran for over 1400 yards.

If Snyder would have just left well enough alone, and maybe make a few additions to bolster the D, who knows, perhaps we could have turned a corner in 2000 instead of imploding.

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I honestly agree with Norv Turner, I think we were heading toward having a team that was taking the next step up the latter. We barely lost a playoff game that could have gotten us into the NFC championship in that one playoff season...and like Turner said, I believe we had a good nucleus of young players. Sure, it took us forever it seemed to finally get the team winning again, but let us not forget that a couple years prior to that season, the Redskins were 8-1 before the defense collapsed. To this day, I will still believe that if Snyder had not went on that spending spree, Turner's team could have went further. Water under the bridge now though...but I will always respect Turner and think if Al Davis gives him a chance, he'll turn the Raiders around (even though I HATE the Raiders!)

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Theres no question that the team was in better shape under Turner before the spending spree than after. My only point about Norv is that he had 8 years so he has no right to make a peep. We can all talk amongst ourself the Snyder f-ed up and the team was in better shape under Norv before the spending spree, but I just don't want to hear that from Norv himself. He has no right...8 f-ing years for crying out loud.

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[QUOTE=BIGREDSKINFAN63]the redskins had great offenses under turner,and awful defenses.if you offense scores 50 points a game,but your defense gives up 55,you ai'nt winning many games.i think that snyder made a HUGE mistake firing turner when he did though.he should have let him coach the rest of the year.[/QUOTE]

amen to that !!

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[QUOTE=celts32]Theres no question that the team was in better shape under Turner before the spending spree than after. My only point about Norv is that he had 8 years so he has no right to make a peep. We can all talk amongst ourself the Snyder f-ed up and the team was in better shape under Norv before the spending spree, but I just don't want to hear that from Norv himself. He has no right...8 f-ing years for crying out loud.[/QUOTE]


I don't know, I have to humbly disagree...I think he had every right to say what he said. Yeah, it took him a long time, but he got the team winning again and as soon as he accomplished that, the team pretty much got dismantled and in effect, Norv lost his job. I didn't really find anything in that interview that indicated Turner was bashing the Redskins....I didn't even see anything that indicated he was bashing Snyder. Heck, Turner said exactly what we all knew....there was no reason to break up that team and sign all these over the hill big name players. That was pretty much the truth....and hopefully Snyder has seen the error of his ways (as it appears this off-season) and he's learning how to be an NFL owner. Norv has a head coaching job again and I wouldn't doubt that Turner will have some success in Raiderland. Might take him 8 years though...LOL

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[QUOTE=celts32]Theres no question that the team was in better shape under Turner before the spending spree than after. My only point about Norv is that he had 8 years so he has no right to make a peep. We can all talk amongst ourself the Snyder f-ed up and the team was in better shape under Norv before the spending spree, but I just don't want to hear that from Norv himself. He has no right...8 f-ing years for crying out loud.[/QUOTE]

Not to split hairs here but he was in DC for 7 years, not 8.

I still don't understand what is so bad about what he said. He could easily bash the Skins and Snyder from head to toe, especially with the way he was treated at the end.

If you want to pick on an ex-coach who likes to talk trash about the Skins every chance he gets, just look at Mike Nolan.

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Oh god Mike Nolan...he is the perfect example for the argument that players win not coaches. In DC witht eh Redskins talent he was the worst defensive coordinator i ever saw and then he goes to Baltimore with Ray Lewis and Ed Reed and he is suddenly a genious again. I can't wait to see him fall on his face again...

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mike nolan, talk about a bad hire, romeo from the patriots was worth waiting for, it's easy to look good with ravens "d" , just like norv with with dalas's offense, norv's team time and time again showed up to big games unprepared emotionally and mentallyy, how many games , big ones did they show up flat to under him. yes he should have finished the year but had his chance and it he was not i repeat not a good head coach, he never brought the team together, and in that tampa bay game he waited til the end to use hicks as flqare back out of the back field and drove down the field. it was there all game. i know a raider fan and he's groaning over norv and wants him gone.

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Snyder did not help by bringing burnt out veterns for BIG money