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Doug Worthington back in the fold. Honestly, more excited to Worthington back than Robinson. Pretty much done with WRs who cant catch on the team.

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Doug Worthington back in the fold. Honestly, more excited to Worthington back than Robinson. Pretty much done with WRs who cant catch on the team.[/quote]

I'm with you - happier about the Worthington re-signing.

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It seems like Worthington has been with the Skins forever but he's always injured and he hasn't made an impact. Maybe 2014 will be his year but, for now, I say "whatever".

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Doug Worthington back in the fold. Honestly, more excited to Worthington back than Robinson. Pretty much done with WRs who cant catch on the team.[/quote]

My point exactly why sign someone who can't catch?

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Glad to see they're getting all the cheap/short term deals over and done with early. Get those out of the way so we know how much we're really working with when it comes to bringing the big names to DC like Byrd or Talib.

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There was news that recently the Redskins have opened contract negotiations with S. Moss.
I am concerned about their talent evaluation methods because I've felt recently that the front office over-valued their own talent and couldn't determine when it was the right time to pull the plug on a player.

Fletcher comes to mind for me... Someone who had no business starting and clearly jumped the shark because of age. Santana is in the same boat. He shouldn't take time from other that need to develop.

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Completely agree. I was not happy with the santana moss news.

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Clearly Moss isn't someone that can fill a large role at this point. As long as the contract makes sense he can still contribute in a limited fashion.

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Sometimes it seems like S. Moss is RGIII's security blanket and if Moss stays in 2013 might be to make our Qb happy. Not so much because Redskins FO thinks Moss will set the NFL on fire.
I like Worthington, his play right before he got injured this last time around was good enough to make the team. Rarely gets knocked backwards or man-handled, he plays bigger than his 6'5" 295 listed size. Hope he comes back strong.

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I like Moss, he's not that A1 receiver, but he knows his role, loves the game, and Griffin and him seem to be on the same page. No problems at all with talking with him about staying, just make the number reasonable for both parties.

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I'd honestly rather see him finish out his career as a role player on a contender. A guy like that, you just root for him to get a ring. For us though, I'd like to [I]finally[/I] go young.

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Moss has been my favorite skin since he stepped on the field, that said its time for him to go. He's had a great run. Resigning him and Robinson is pointless, it's not gonna help our problem at wr. We need to get much better play at that position. Like to see us draft one and sign at least 2 solid wr.

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Moss is washed up and should retire, rather go with a younger WR who "earns" a roster spot.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1059032]Moss is washed up and should retire, rather go with a younger WR who "earns" a roster spot.[/quote]And the younger WR could get playing time that would otherwise go to Moss.

Sorry, Santana, you are a credit to the club in every way. But we just aren't good enough to give you the SB ring you deserve, and we need to get younger.

Monday Night Miracle Forever!

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Doug Worthington back in the fold. Honestly, more excited to Worthington back than Robinson. Pretty much done with WRs who cant catch on the team.[/QUOTE]


Superbowl!

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1059032]Moss is washed up and should retire, rather go with a younger WR who "earns" a roster spot.[/QUOTE]


He is a smart veteran that keeps his nose clean. I have no problem with him being a third or fourth wr that brings a leadership role to the team. Not sure what he would cost, but if his price is rite and he is willing than bring him back. Everyone talks about his drops but there are alot of times that he seems to make those big catches to move the chains. I am a graduate of the U so i am a bit bias, but i honestly think he could be a nice piece if we could field a winning team.

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[quote=punch it in;1059037]He is a smart veteran that keeps his nose clean. I have no problem with him being a third or fourth wr that brings a leadership role to the team. Not sure what he would cost, but if his price is rite and he is willing than bring him back. Everyone talks about his drops but there are alot of times that he seems to make those big catches to move the chains. I am a graduate of the U so i am a bit bias, but i honestly think he could be a nice piece if we could field a winning team.[/quote]

Sorry man, he killed the team in 2013, dropped many crucial receptions. Rather give the roster spot to someone that will produce and is young with potential to grow.

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1059031]Moss has been my favorite skin since he stepped on the field, that said its time for him to go. He's had a great run. Resigning him and Robinson is pointless, it's not gonna help our problem at wr. We need to get much better play at that position. Like to see us draft one and sign at least 2 solid wr.[/QUOTE]

Agreed

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1059042]Sorry man, he killed the team in 2013, dropped many crucial receptions. Rather give the roster spot to someone that will produce and is young with potential to grow.[/QUOTE]


Its just unrealistic to have a young promising player at every position. Also the killing of the team was a group effort in 2013. Lol
Whatever is best for the team though.

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If this was a team that was a contender I would say keep Moss or let him compete for a spot. Not the case though. Can't keep old guys around when you're trying to get better.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1059072]If this was a team that was a contender I would say keep Moss or let him compete for a spot. Not the case though. Can't keep old guys around when you're trying to get better.[/QUOTE]


Every team in the league has vets - whether they are contenders or not. It all boils down to how much money he will make, and is there someone better ( young or old)? It is silly to me to say he is old so cut him. If he is good for the young guys, locker room, and culture than let him at least compete for a spot. He has earned it.

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One thing that is different for the Skins than in the last decade probably. Cap space should have minimal bearing on the talent brought in. I don't mean that contracts shouldn't be written to maximize space, but bottomline, every player brought in should be paid and kept based on matching their salary, with their expected play for our team.

That means that if they choose to keep Moss, at the right contract, and let him have a shot at making the team, than that's fine with me. We need to see how the crew described in the FO thread is going to go about evaluating and selecting players. For once, in a very long time, cap space will have very little to do with that decision.

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So do we know if Moss has contract and the details of it?

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People want to get rid of Moss but keep Cousins? Cousins looked terrible against the worse defenses in the league. Moss is a true Redskins, Cousins is a journey man. Everybody's back up. Everybody's hoe.

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There's no reason we can't re-sign Moss to a cheap deal and have him continue as a rotational WR. It's not like he will have much of a market at all and it will be worth it just to have him in the WR room with the younger WRs.

[QUOTE=Orakpwned;1059124]There's no reason we can't re-sign Moss to a cheap deal and have him continue as a rotational WR. It's not like he will have much of a market at all and it will be worth it just to have him in the WR room with the younger WRs.[/QUOTE]


Agreed. Not to mention our depth is severely lacking at wr.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1059042]Sorry man, he killed the team in 2013, dropped many crucial receptions. Rather give the roster spot to someone that will produce and is young with potential to grow.[/quote]

My perception last year was the opposite: the young bucks dropped killer balls - see Robinson against Detroit for just one example - and Moss was the surehanded one in the group not named Garcon. But fair to your point, saying that Tana has the best hands is not saying much.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1059042]Sorry man, he killed the team in 2013, dropped many crucial receptions. Rather give the roster spot to someone that will produce and is young with potential to grow.[/quote]

Killed the team? Lol... Right

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Happy birthday to RGIII...and Charles Darwin.

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[quote=Lotus;1059246]Happy birthday to RGIII...and Charles Darwin.[/quote]

And Abraham Lincoln.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1059252]And Abraham Lincoln.[/quote]

Shocked someone else remembered! Good job.

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[quote=Orakpwned;1059124]There's no reason we can't re-sign Moss to a cheap deal and have him continue as a rotational WR. It's not like he will have much of a market at all and it will be worth it just to have him in the WR room with the younger WRs.[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/12/its-a-buyers-market-for-free-agent-receivers/]It’ll be a buyer’s market for free-agent receivers | ProFootballTalk[/url]

I actually agree with PFT, the market is broad. Robinson and Moss is a waste.

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[quote=punch it in;1059076]Every team in the league has vets - whether they are contenders or not. It all boils down to how much money he will make, and is there someone better ( young or old)? It is silly to me to say he is old so cut him.[B] If he is good for the young guys, locker room, and culture than let him at least compete for a spot. He has earned it[/B].[/quote]

We always go down this road with old guys. Keep them around cause they're good for the young guys. Today's NFL= young and cheap. We need more guys like Morris and Reed. Not an old vet that's going to catch 30 balls. It's time to develop Robinson and Hankerson.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1059260]We always go down this road with old guys. Keep them around cause they're good for the young guys. Today's NFL= young and cheap. We need more guys like Morris and Reed. Not an old vet that's going to catch 30 balls. It's time to develop Robinson and Hankerson.[/QUOTE]


I said "compete" for a spot. Robinson will never be anything like a young or old moss. Dude stinks. Not sure how Moss being on the team has stood in the way of developing either of those two. He should be able to mentor them if anything.

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Moss has been around as a versatile role player for the last five seasons and we've yet to develop even one receiver from the draft. Safe to say that his presence is not going to be the difference between getting production out of our receivers and not getting production.

If he's back though, that's one more spot on the roster not contributing as a starter, and not contributing on special teams, the two biggest problems from last season.

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Has Moss actually signed a deal?

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If Moss comes back, I wonder whether having him do more on teams as a returner would be worth considering. HE's not done much of that recently, but he's had past success. I think speed is important, but he's still faster than pretty much everyone we have had returning kicks for a long time (with the exception of Banks whose speed ended up being irrelevant given that a stiff breeze would send him to the turf).

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1059267]Has Moss actually signed a deal?[/quote]

No, free agency isn't open yet.

Only exclusive rights free agents can sign right now, like Robinson.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1059264]Moss has been around as a versatile role player for the last five seasons and we've yet to develop even one receiver from the draft. Safe to say that his presence is not going to be the difference between getting production out of our receivers and not getting production.

If he's back though, that's one more spot on the roster not contributing as a starter, and not contributing on special teams, the two biggest problems from last season.[/quote]

I love Moss, one of my favorite Redskins of the Snyder era but I have zero interest in seeing him return next season. He's past the point of diminishing return. He drops too many passes, fumbles too much and isn't dynamic enough anymore to take the top off of a defense. If he's back, as you said, that's one more roster spot taken up by someone who doesn't produce and that will be a failure of the front office not to better address the position.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1059267]Has Moss actually signed a deal?[/quote]

From the way people are b*tching about him, you'd think he signed some crazy expensive deal already. :doh: