Is Brian Orakpo career as a Redskin possibly over
 

[url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=12079]NFL Redskins concerned with Brian Orakpo's pectoral muscle - ESPN[/url]

If it is torn again you can't sign him to a long term deal

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We have other areas of need greater than pass rusher anyway.

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Wouldn't have signed him to a long term deal if he was the healthiest he had ever been.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;1090228][url=http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=washington-redskins&id=12079]NFL Redskins concerned with Brian Orakpo's pectoral muscle - ESPN[/url]

If it is torn again you can't sign him to a long term deal[/quote]

Even if it isnt torn you cant sign him to a long term deal

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1090232]Even if it isnt torn you cant sign him to a long term deal[/quote]

True I agree Quake

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Will any other team make him a big offer?

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Whatever....hes not going to be offered a new contract here.
Thats why we drafted Murphy.

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Career as a highly paid Redskin is over.

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This is who we should sign if the Lions don't franchise him:

Ndamukong Suh

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;1090228]If it is torn again you can't sign him to a long term deal[/quote]

They aren't going to sign him to a long term deal anyways. (regardless of his health)


This tweet says it all:

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@JsteelznSkinz

Continual Pectoral injuries are from poor technique and not honing your craft as a pass rusher. #Redskins Orakpo[/B]

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[quote=HailGreen28;1090240]Will any other team make him a big offer?[/quote]

I imagine he's lost between 20-25 mil in guaranteed money this year on the open market. He might get 10 mill guaranteed now, but probably could have gotten 25-35 this past year.

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He probably should've been gone after last season.

Yeah, another team will probably pick him up. The guy's not awful, he's just not a playmaker anymore.

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all it takes is one stupid team, and he will get $$$$$. He is one of the premier OLBs in the NFL *



* according to Mr. Humble aka Brian Orakpo

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[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1090260]He probably should've been gone after last season.

Yeah, another team will probably pick him up. The guy's not awful, he's just not a playmaker anymore.[/QUOTE]
Agreed!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1090252]This is who we should sign if the Lions don't franchise him:

Ndamukong Suh[/quote]

Yea, because highly paid D-linemen, with bad attitudes always works out well for the Skins. :nono:

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I will be perfectly happy letting Rak get his bonus money from some other dumb NFL team. Injuries or not he hasn't been worthy of big money. His stock has gone way down this season. I just hope he gets hot in the second half so we can get a good half season out of him before we let him hit the road.

S/N also not too impressed with Trent Murphy at this point. Where's the high motor? Only impact I've seen him make is when he's costing us big plays on special teams.

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To answer OPs question. Yea it probally is. Now hell get signed by the Patriots or something and somehow stay healthy for them and have multi sack games something some players just cant do with us. We degress without him regardless he draws attention. I dont watch tape but just from what ive seen kerrigan usually gets left one on one Orakpo takes all the heat so youll notice a difference in Kerrigans production without him.

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[quote=Hijinx;1090263]Yea, because highly paid D-linemen, with bad attitudes always works out well for the Skins. :nono:[/quote]

Suh is no Haynesworth, he's not an out of shape fat fuck with shitty attitude.

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It was probably over for him even before today, unless he was to go on an incredible run.

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I think Orakpo should be a 4-3 DE. I think he will sign with a 4-3 team and be better there as a DE than he was for us. But we cant pay him to be an OLB in a 3-4. Hes not as bad as some say, but no where near worth what he is getting paid. Now, if he was willing to take 5 mil per year then maybe. But I dont see him taking that and im sure some team will pay him a pretty big chunk of change.

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[quote=Skinzman;1090271]I think Orakpo should be a 4-3 DE. I think he will sign with a 4-3 team and be better there as a DE than he was for us. But we cant pay him to be an OLB in a 3-4. Hes not as bad as some say, but no where near worth what he is getting paid. Now, if he was willing to take 5 mil per year then maybe. But I dont see him taking that and im sure some team will pay him a pretty big chunk of change.[/quote]

Not if he's coming back from injury (3rd pectoral injury) and having a subpar year. He's got a red flag attached to him if this is a pectoral season ending injury.

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So now that Orakpo has gone out and Griffin most likely returning this week or next do we go on a 2012 run! lol

But yeah I don't see how he comes back

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Yea he needed to stay healthy to keep that stock up. We always hold players a season too long, we should have let him walk this year.

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Does Orakpo even play for us now? I hadn't noticed. Apparently he plays the "invisible linebacker" position.

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[quote=Skinzman;1090271]I think Orakpo should be a 4-3 DE. I think he will sign with a 4-3 team and be better there as a DE than he was for us. But we cant pay him to be an OLB in a 3-4. Hes not as bad as some say, but no where near worth what he is getting paid. Now, if he was willing to take 5 mil per year then maybe. But I dont see him taking that and im sure some team will pay him a pretty big chunk of change.[/quote]

good luck to that team that runs this magical 4-3 he fits better into. he has never played DE in 4-3 in the NFL....he sucks at keeping contain as a OLB so wouldn't be much better in the 4-3 and also is not that great tackling.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1090260]He probably should've been gone after last season.

Yeah, another team will probably pick him up. The guy's not awful, he's just not a playmaker anymore.[/quote]

Never truly was in my opinion. He has to be one of the most overrated Redskins players of all time. He has one pass rush move, does not get consistent pressure, and never did even when he had solid sack numbers for a few seasons. He has 6 career forced fumbles. That is pathetic. This is his 6th season. Kerrigan has 12 and this is his 4th year. Orakpo has 1 career interception. He was never a real playmaker. I am not sad to see him go whatsoever after this season.

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....Does Dexter Manley have any offspring of an appropriate age?

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It has to be over here. Just hasn't produced what was expected of him. As for being a 4-3 end, he played that position in college so it wouldn't be a stretch for him to start playing it again now.

Trial by fire time might be in order for Trent Murphy.

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Most overrated player on the roster. Kerrigan is a far more impactful player. Thankfully the FO didn't commit to Rak beyond this season.

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Brian Orakpo took up $11.46 million of our salary cap this season. We could have gotten a RT and Safety for that. What a shame. Safety and RT HAS to be addressed this off season. No more excuses.
If a good defensive coordinator becomes available this off season, I think it might be time to part ways with Haslett as well. His defense has not played well.

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Y'all are cray. And harsh. Resigning Orakpo to a cheap deal makes sense. Nobody will overpay anf he'll work hard for another contract. Too easy.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1090326]Y'all are cray. And harsh. Resigning Orakpo to a cheap deal makes sense. Nobody will overpay anf he'll work hard for another contract. Too easy.[/quote]

Rak isn't going to sign for a cheap deal. He was wanting in the area of 13mil/yr this off-season. This is going to turn out just like Carlos Rogers.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1090327]Rak isn't going to sign for a cheap deal. He was wanting in the area of 13mil/yr this off-season. This is going to turn out just like Carlos Rogers.[/quote]

Maybe. Hard to see another franchise paying based his performance so far. He could make a great value player finally.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1090327]Rak isn't going to sign for a cheap deal. He was wanting in the area of 13mil/yr this off-season. This is going to turn out just like Carlos Rogers.[/QUOTE]


He doesn't want to sign for a cheap deal, just like he didn't want to get the franchise tag. IMO if he indeed tore another pec there is no chance he gets any sort of long term deal. He is setting him self up for another one year prove it deal, thankfully it won't be here.

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What Orakpo think of himself as a player and what he is worth is IMO waaaay different than what it is in reality.

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[QUOTE=irish;1090340]What Orakpo think of himself as a player and what he is worth is IMO waaaay different than what it is in reality.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely!

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[quote=redskins5044;1090290]good luck to that team that runs this magical 4-3 he fits better into. he has never played DE in 4-3 in the NFL....he sucks at keeping contain as a OLB so wouldn't be much better in the 4-3 and also is not that great tackling.[/quote]

He actually has played DE in a 4-3 in the NFL, his rookie year with us. And that was his best year so far. He doesnt need magic, just needs his hand on the ground with no pass coverage responsibilities. He is much quicker off the ball when his hand was on the ground and that set up his speed rush better. The speed rush being better set up his bull rush. When he rushes from a 3-4 OLB stand up position, he is no where near as good as a pass rusher than he has shown when he is in a 3 point stance.

Its not happening here, but I do think he will have more success as a 4-3 DE than he does as a 3-4 OLB who spends a fair amount of time in pass coverage. We just keep shoving the square peg in a round hole and blaming the player for it not working out.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1090328]Maybe. Hard to see another franchise paying based his performance so far. He could make a great value player finally.[/quote]

Why would you want him?
He doesnt do anything but play Patty cake with he guy thats blocking him.

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[quote=Skins4L;1090276]Yea he needed to stay healthy to keep that stock up. We always hold players a season too long, we should have let him walk this year.[/quote]

Exactly! They should never have given him anywhere near 11 mil. As I said before he's not a franchise player. He's done here.

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Haven't read the entire thread so I apologize for redundancy.

Orakpo is a good player to have on the team. He is not a franchise player. He has simply not been a play maker elite or otherwise. I would like to have him back for a reasonable price BUT I don't think he takes a reasonable price. Someone will overpay him. Personally, I think his "market value" as a UFA will be well above his value to us. At the same time, I will be sorry to see him go - if only b/c it creates a whole that needs to be filled and will likely be filled by a downgrade.

I think retaining him this year was not a horrible decision, it gave T.Murphy some time to develop. Hopefully, Murphy can step in and play. He doesn't have the raw talent of Rak but then Rak never seemed to play up to his talent.

If Rak comes back, great - so long as he realizes, he is not and never will be an elite player. Otherwise, it's probably best for both sides to move on.