Titans vs. Skins Positives and Negatives.
 

Yeeeep. So.

Positives:

The biggest one is.... [SIZE="5"]WE WON[/SIZE] everything else is pretty much gravy. But since we're all analyzing and shit.

Other positives:

DJax again - Although he didn't blow up like the last couple of games, the guy can make something out of nothing. He had that amazing sideline grab that ended up getting called back but... I hope he sticks with us for a long time.

Breeland - Again, I think the guy is average so far (and yeah I know he's a rook so you can save that argument), but he had that legit INT. So I hope he continues to develop.

Paul - Had some decent blocks and catches this game.

McCoy - Congratulations son, you're probably our new #2.



Negatives:

Morris - Dude, you've got some serious ball security issues. I know the ground caused the fumble, but you're coughing up the ball, ground caused or not, at least once a game. That needs fixing.

Paulsen - Should probably stick to blocking and NOT catching. He also has ball security issues.

Cousins - No explanation needed.

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Big positive was Gruden making moves with players who obviously weren't getting it done.

negative is that Gruden in his press conference said they didn't plan or talk about the possibility of having to pull Kirk during the week. He said he spent the time trying to make it work for Kirk. Ok, I get that the first week. The second week, you have to be thinking about options. One of the few coaching comments I haven't liked from him.

Positive, even after the defense gave up the go ahead touchdown the team didn't give up. Also the defense played well for many parts of the game, I think they got several 3 and outs, but not positive.

Positive, Amerson/Breeland could be a good tandem for the Skins for a while. Maybe not the shutdown ala Revis, but CB's you can build the defensive backfield around.

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Positives:

Garçon
Reed
Forbath
Compton LB
Breeland

Negatives:

ST continue with stupid penalties (league leading)
Defense continues to give up big plays at critical times
Game delay penalties continue

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Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1090272]Positives:

Garçon
Reed
Forbath
Compton LB
Breeland

Negatives:

ST continue with stupid penalties (league leading)
Defense continues to give up big plays at critical times
Game delay penalties continue[/quote]

I really do like Compton at LB. I haven't seen him be a playmaker yet, but he seems to be flying around on every play. Now we gotta see him in coverage.

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[quote=Mattyk;1090278]Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.[/quote]

Seems like longer kick offs too, or is that still Tress Way? (haven't seen many of the games)

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[quote=Mattyk;1090278]Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.[/quote]

Never really gotten the hate for Cobra Kai, he's been our best field goal kicker in a while and I blame our poor kickoff coverage more on the players not staying in their lanes vs. the way he kicks the ball. Lately he's been knocking them into the back of the endzone though so it hasn't been as big of an issue.

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Positive: Frank Kearse

Also, glad we benched Kirk. Sends a good message to everyone.

Negative: Frank Kearse does not play every position. With his energy, we'd be undefeated.

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[quote=Mattyk;1090278]Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.[/quote]

Seems like longer kick offs too, or is that still Tress Way? (haven't seen many of the games)

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Positives: a win, Jackson earning his contract, Reed making a contribution

Negatives: a meaningless win (our draft position didn't improve...LOL), Jackson is not going to want to stay with this team, and Reed will probably be injured again this season.

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[quote=Mattyk;1090278]Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.[/quote]

I think people had issues with his kickoffs, not his FG kicking.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1090270]Big positive was Gruden making moves with players who obviously weren't getting it done.

negative is that Gruden in his press conference said they didn't plan or talk about the possibility of having to pull Kirk during the week. He said he spent the time trying to make it work for Kirk. Ok, I get that the first week. The second week, you have to be thinking about options. One of the few coaching comments I haven't liked from him.

Positive, even after the defense gave up the go ahead touchdown the team didn't give up. Also the defense played well for many parts of the game, I think they got several 3 and outs, but not positive.

Positive, Amerson/Breeland could be a good tandem for the Skins for a while. Maybe not the shutdown ala Revis, but CB's you can build the defensive backfield around.[/quote]


I don't have an issue with Gruden staying upbeat and positive with a player through the week. Especially with Kirk's realistic attitude about his performance. Coaches know their players better than we do. Kirk is hard on himself and might need coaches to show confidence in him.

A great example is we are all calling for Moses but obviously the coaches believe Compton is better. That's why we saw him come in for Polumbus.

Colt was a huge unknown to us and a pleasant surprise. I'm guessing there was a reason he started the season as the 3rd string qb rather than the 2nd.

All that being said, I loved his decision making today and the smart way he rushed on a broken play.

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Positive:
C.Mccoy - great poise. Cousins failed to deliver in the 4th quarter and on 3rd downs, but Colt delivered in the 4th & won the game. Note that he was only 1 out of 4 for 3rd downs (3rd-18, 3rd-5, 3-9) and converted at the end with 3rd-2 due to pass interference.

Big picture is that with reps/practice on 1st team, Colt will get better. I don't think he had weapons like DJax, Garcon, Reed when he was on the Browns, and Roberts/Morris aren't bad either. All he needs to to do is get them the ball and not throw it away like Cousins..

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[quote=Mattyk;1090278]Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.[/quote]

My biggest concern with him is that he doesn't have great leg strength. He may luck into another 50 yarder, but that's his limit as far as I can tell. It's nice ot have a real punter though. Where did this guy come from?

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[quote=NC_Skins;1090292]I think people had issues with his kickoffs, not his FG kicking.[/quote]

Yes the kickoffs are the issue,I would have dropped Forbath like a hot potato and signed Prater when we had the chance.
Seems like every team in the league has a kicker that boots it in the endzone every kickoff but us.
I didnt go back any further,but over the last 3 games on 13 kickoffs{not counting the onside kick}he's had 6 touchbacks,with the other teams getting the ball at 26,30,31,30,35,29,and 44 yard line.Meanwhile were starting our drives from the 20 or worse

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Please remember that in exchange for the leniency and mercy granted us by Whitehurst a sacrifice will be required. Prized ox and cattle only so don't even think of using that animal thats half dead already.

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[quote=Mattyk;1090278]Anyone still wanna get rid of Forbath? 11/12 on the year and now 46/52 (88%) for his career.[/quote]

Yeah, I feel like this is how it goes with our kickers. We get a couple good seasons out of them and then they miss some big time important kicks. Remember Suisham? That's who's record % he surpassed today. And there was Novak before him. I'm cool with Kai for now, but he misses some gimmes sometimes. We'll see.

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We won a game we should have, good enough for me.

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Idk about Morris.

Helu seems to be the better overall running back on our team and i feel like hw makes the offense more balanced

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Are we really debating who should start at running back???

The ONE consistent playmaker we've had for the past couple seasons, and we should sit him after 7 below-average games?

Morris is not the problem. We all know our Offensive Line can't block for shit. His numbers are obviously going to suffer. Did you guys really think Demarco Murray was the beast he is? No, put in a solid offensive line and WOW things start to open up for running backs.

Morris is our starter. The fact that he's not getting the ball that much is enough to be upset, if they bench him... that's something entirely different.

Lets get this offensive line together and watch everybody rave (as they should) again about Morris being an absolute beast (which he is).

/rant



[B]Positives:[/B]

We won. Plain and simple.

I had almost sobered up but winning another game is just another shot of kool-aid for me. I'm not drunk on it yet, but i'm feeling the effects. HAIL
[B]
Negatives:[/B]

Cousins has absolutely played himself out of any trade bait we may have had. Shame.

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While I'm happy the Skins won my biggest take away from this game is how bad the Skins really are. TN is terrible and it took everything the Skins had including some luck to just barely squeak by for a win. The 2014 Skins are not a very good football team.

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1090292]I think people had issues with his kickoffs, not his FG kicking.[/QUOTE]


Regardless people were ready to cut him loose for an unproven rookie.

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[quote=irish;1090341]While I'm happy the Skins won my biggest take away from this game is how bad the Skins really are. TN is terrible and it took everything the Skins had including some luck to just barely squeak by for a win. The 2014 Skins are not a very good football team.[/quote]

Kirk Cousins got his chance, is it fair to say Kirk got a fair chance?

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1090345]Kirk Cousins got his chance, is it fair to say Kirk got a fair chance?[/quote]

Yes, I think its fair to say he got a chance.

What the Skins are facing now is that instead of having 2 good QBs like they thought, there's a very good chance they have 0 good QBs and that's really going to create a mess.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1090345]Kirk Cousins got his chance, is it fair to say Kirk got a fair chance?[/quote]

Fair chance to do what? He was never going to be the starter.

Backups don't need a fair chance, they just need to win a couple of games to keep the team in the race until the starter returns. He failed to do that. IMO, they went with Kirk one game too many. It hurt the team.

The move to Colt had to be done and Colt delivered. Good for him. Now, we can focus on getting back to business when Robert returns.

The only question for Kirk now is whether or not he is the #2 or the #3. In all likelihood, he's now the #3.

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[quote=irish;1090346]Yes, I think its fair to say he got a chance.

What the Skins are facing now is that instead of having 2 good QBs like they thought, there's a very good chance they have 0 good QBs and that's really going to create a mess.[/quote]

There is no mess. Robert is #1. As always, I believe in Robert. IMO He will soon become a very good QB.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1090345]Kirk Cousins got his chance, is it fair to say Kirk got a fair chance?[/quote]

Very fair. He's lost his confidence. Thing is every game he puts some difficult throws right on the money, but his turnovers sucks the life out of the team. I do think he can still play in the NFL, but he needs to shake this.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1090351]There is no mess. Robert is #1. As always, I believe in Robert. IMO He will soon become a very good QB.[/quote]

Let's hope so. But judging by some of Gruden's comments the other day, he doesn't sound too sold on Griffin. Nor does he seem like he's willing to wait around for him to develop.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1090351]There is no mess. Robert is #1. As always, I believe in Robert. IMO He will soon become a very good QB.[/quote]

RG is the #1 but if it turns out he cant get the job done then the team will have a mess on their hands.

Re: Titans vs. Skins Positives and Negatives.
 

Positives:
We won

Negatives:
We looked a lot better in some of our losses.
The ridiculousness of this team was increased as we now have a back-up quarterback controversy.
The way numerous players on this team were close to getting an unsportsmanlike penalty after a play moved us into game winning, chip-shot range.

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Gotta be McCoy as the main positive. He didn't turn the ball over and ran the offense. Negatives? We barely beat a terrible team at home. That was two bad teams out there yesterday.

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[quote=sevier2;1090333]Are we really debating who should start at running back???

The ONE consistent playmaker we've had for the past couple seasons, and we should sit him after 7 below-average games?

Morris is not the problem. We all know our Offensive Line can't block for shit. His numbers are obviously going to suffer. Did you guys really think Demarco Murray was the beast he is? No, put in a solid offensive line and WOW things start to open up for running backs.

Morris is our starter. The fact that he's not getting the ball that much is enough to be upset, if they bench him... that's something entirely different.

Lets get this offensive line together and watch everybody rave (as they should) again about Morris being an absolute beast (which he is).

/rant



[B]Positives:[/B]

We won. Plain and simple.

I had almost sobered up but winning another game is just another shot of kool-aid for me. I'm not drunk on it yet, but i'm feeling the effects. HAIL
[B]
Negatives:[/B]

Cousins has absolutely played himself out of any trade bait we may have had. Shame.[/quote]

Do you think Will Montgomery is a great OL?

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We are going into Dallas week.

I WISH we could beat them this week. They are riding so high.

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There shouldn't be any debate at who is the starting RB; it's Morris and it should be. But he desperately needs to work on ball security. He's not fumbling every single game but I can't say I don't hold my breath when he tries to fight for extra yards.

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They are struggling as a team on blocking, not just the OL. The OL talent is just not up to par though. It's a great opportunity, but no one seems to be stepping up.

KR continues to play well.

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Alfmo's numbers have dropped dramatically and he is averaging only 3.8 yards per carry. The line in front of him is not much different (or worse) than the line he ran behind in previous seasons.

We might want to start asking if Alfmo is not another Shanny RB creation, like Reuben Droughns or Olandis Gary, who ran like mad for Shanny but not for anyone else.

And DRave is right, his ball security is lacking.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1090365]They are struggling as a team on blocking, not just the OL. The OL talent is just not up to par though. It's a great opportunity, but no one seems to be stepping up.
[/quote]

[url=http://riggosrag.com/2014/10/20/redskins-tom-compton-will-see-more-time-at-right-tackle/?utm_source=FanSided&utm_medium=Network&utm_campaign=Trending%20on%20FS]Redskins' Tom Compton will see more time at right tackle[/url]

[quote]“Tyler had a couple of plays where struggled on and Tom’s put some good work in practice and we just thought it was time to look at Tom at right tackle. We thought he deserved an opportunity to play and moving forward we’ll see a little bit more of Tom and plus Tyler had a little bit of a banged up knee coming into this game and it was important to get Tom out there.”[/quote]

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I'm done with Tyler Polumbus. Leave Compton in there and see what he can do. Can't be any worse.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1090353]Let's hope so. But judging by some of Gruden's comments the other day, he doesn't sound too sold on Griffin. Nor does he seem like he's willing to wait around for him to develop.[/quote]

Robert is a young QB. If he struggles in any particular game, then I'd have no problem with Gruden having Colt relieve him to try to win that particular game. Then, I would expect Gruden to start RGIII in the next game. Many young QB's have been developed in this way.

If Gruden were to sit RGIII and go with Colt, then I'd be hoping that Snyder would fire his stupid ass. I believe that RGIII is the future of this team, so I think that the Gruden must balance the current and future needs of the team as far as Robert's development is concerned. I know that is a difficult thing for Gruden to do but that is part of the job of being an NFL HC.