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Looks like Kyle will give Jimmy Garoppolo a test-drive as 49ers QB of the future:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21230962/new-england-patriots-trade-jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-draft-pick]New England Patriots trade Jimmy Garoppolo to San Francisco 49ers for draft pick[/url]

If he performs well, I cannot see John Lynch breaking the bank to sign Kirk in the offseason.

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This isn’t a tryout, Grap is the 49ers qb for awhile.

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[quote=Chico23231;1178353]This isn’t a tryout, Grap is the 49ers qb for awhile.[/quote]That would be great for the Skins, as SF gave Kirk his greatest leverage. LA Rams are no longer an option either, with Goff playing well this season. I still see the Jets and the Jags as two significant competitors for Kirk's services.

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Cardinals, Vikings, Jacksonville would be my front runners for Cousins.

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Dumb trade by 49ers. Why not ride the season out and draft a QB at the top of the draft


[quote=Chico23231;1178353]This isn’t a tryout, Grap is the 49ers qb for awhile.[/quote]

This. Expect a contract extension soon.

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"Garoppolo, who will turn 26 on Thursday, was a second-round pick in 2014 whom 49ers head coach Kyle Shanahan reportedly graded highly when he was the Browns offensive coordinator at the time."

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/49ers/article/Report-49ers-deal-for-Pats-QB-Jimmy-Garoppolo-12318574.php]Report: 49ers deal for Patriots QB Jimmy Garoppolo - SFGate[/url]

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What if this means the Patriots want Cousins to be Brady's replacement?

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[quote=Stacks42;1178359]What if this means the Patriots want Cousins to be Brady's replacement?[/quote]

Patriots typically do not spend a lot of money in free agency. As someone mentioned, Cousins will likely end up with Jets, Jags, or Browns if he hits free agency.

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[quote=Stacks42;1178359]What if this means the Patriots want Cousins to be Brady's replacement?[/quote]Belichick isn't giving Kirk big money to be Brady's backup for the next 3+ years.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/10/30/jimmy-garoppolo-will-be-expensive-but-49ers-have-the-cap-space/]Jimmy Garoppolo will be expensive, but 49ers have the cap space – ProFootballTalk[/url]

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This will take an attractive suitor off the table for Cousins, but the reality of the NFL is that there will always be plenty of suitors for a decent qb that doesn't have to be bought with draft picks.

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Imgaine this scenario: Eli Manning retires at the end of the season and the Giants manage to sign Cousins. Then we get torched by Wentz, Prescott and Cousins for the foreseeable future.

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[quote=SouperMeister;1178352]Looks like Kyle will give Jimmy Garoppolo a test-drive as 49ers QB of the future:

[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21230962/new-england-patriots-trade-jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-draft-pick]New England Patriots trade Jimmy Garoppolo to San Francisco 49ers for draft pick[/url]

If he performs well, I cannot see John Lynch breaking the bank to sign Kirk in the offseason.[/quote]

This move earns my seal of approval.

Jimmy has a chance to be good and he should easily be better than what they have at the QB position now.

I think the timing of this move is excellent. By bringing in Jimmy G. now the team should be energized and Jimmy will have an opportunity to settle in so he'll be ready to go next season.

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I'm sort of not happy about the Jimmy G. deal because I'm a cousins Fan and was hoping that if he walks from here after this season (very likely), that he lands in San Fran. Now it kind of looks like if he doesn't get signed here, he will have his suitors but they are all shit teams. My buddy at work who is a skins fan thinks that Cousins could get signed by the Browns....that sure sucks to imagine Cousins being part of that shit show. I just don't see Kirk being a guy who is content to win 1 or 2 games a season...

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1178357]Dumb trade by 49ers. Why not ride the season out and draft a QB at the top of the draft[/QUOTE]


Because they got their guy for a 2nd and still have their top pick.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1178368]I'm sort of not happy about the Jimmy G. deal because I'm a cousins Fan and was hoping that if he walks from here after this season (very likely), that he lands in San Fran. Now it kind of looks like if he doesn't get signed here, he will have his suitors but they are all shit teams. My buddy at work who is a skins fan thinks that Cousins could get signed by the Browns....that sure sucks to imagine Cousins being part of that shit show. I just don't see Kirk being a guy who is content to win 1 or 2 games a season...[/QUOTE]Assuming we don't tag him, Cousins will choose where he wants to go. He will not choose Cleveland. Taking SF out of the mix greatly improves the chance we keep him for a few reasons.
1- cap and cash space just shifted dramatically in our favor. SF could have out paid both in total value and cash up front. Jax who I think would be a good fit has only 2M available in next year's cap right now. We have 58M but with a several one year deals to redo.
2- The KC Shanahan connection is now irrelevant. That means ego on all sides is tamped down a notch or two.
3- with the line back and rested KC should feel good about our chances and may have loyalty to Gruden since he has always been a KC supporter.

No one knows what will happen, but this deal ups our odds of keeping KC.

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I think SF knows they need much more than just a qb so that's y they made this trade now. We'll see if he's good or another Matt cassel

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[quote=NC_Skins;1178357]Dumb trade by 49ers. Why not ride the season out and draft a QB at the top of the draft
[/quote]

It was a brilliant move by the 49ers. They only gave up ONE second round pick for Jimmy G. ONE SECOND ROUND pick!! That is a freakin' bargain. Now the 49ers have all sorts of avenues in next year's draft, plus they have a quarterback who's learned from the GOAT. He's well established and ready to play. And not only that, the 49ers get to get him worked in this season. By next season, JG will know the system and be ready to go. The 49ers can now focus on rebuilding their offensive line and their defense.

And this is great for us! Greatly reduces Cousins' chances of moving on. I would be shocked if he went to Cleveland or NY Jets. The Cardinals could be a strong possibility as well as the Jags, but the leverage is strongly back in the 'skins favor in my opinion.

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Hasn't hoodie pulled this trick before? How did that work out?

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[quote=Chico23231;1178381]Hasn't hoodie pulled this trick before? How did that work out?[/quote]

That makes me think the hoodie knows something no one else does. Tom Brady is 40 and last time I checked father time was undefeated.

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Weird thing about this, is Patriots now have traded both backups to Brady. Right now, they don't have a backup to Tom Brady listed on their depth chart (Garrapolo is still there but obviously he's gone)

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I dont think this automatically means SF is going to sign Jimmy G long term.

We have seen very little from him in live action. There is a good chance Jimmy doesnt convince over the next 8 games or so and SF may want to look elsewhere.

Jimmy may be good but he may not. Good chance SF signs him long term, but they want to watch and wait.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1178389]That makes me think the hoodie knows something no one else does. Tom Brady is 40 and last time I checked father time was undefeated.[/quote]

Right...good point.....maybe Pats org have seen something they didn't like in the last 6 months to say, "hey we haven't seen the growth we expected. "

Hoodie has done this before

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[quote=NC_Skins;1178357]Dumb trade by 49ers. Why not ride the season out and draft a QB at the top of the draft




This. Expect a contract extension soon.[/quote]

JG has some good NFL game tape out there. None of the draft picks do. He's been around a winning organization for several years, that gamble is a lot better than going for Darnold or Rosen. Good move by the 49ers.

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I mentioned this before, I think the market for KC is going to be slow. He's a good to very good QB at times that's probably a little overpaid. I think he comes back here and a deal eventually gets done.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1178405]I mentioned this before, I think the market for KC is going to be slow. He's a good to very good QB at times that's probably a little overpaid. I think he comes back here and a deal eventually gets done.[/quote]
I agree, I think KC has always wanted to see what the market would be, and this year he should see it. Once he does, I think the Skins will have an offer on the table that matches or is better than anything else.

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[quote=Chico23231;1178381]Hasn't hoodie pulled this trick before? How did that work out?[/quote]

I don't know. I mean, if Brady does play until he's 45, that's 5 more years that JG would have to wait to become a starter, and by then, he's 31 years old. Getting a second rounder is a good deal for the Patriots as much as it appears to be a good deal for the 49ers. And, it's a chance for Jimmy to show case his talent as a starter.

And maybe, Hoodie realizes that he doesn't want to coach past 5 more years? I mean, he's 65 years old now and has accomplished about everything a head coach can accomplish in the NFL. He doesn't have anything left to prove. We look at him as this evil Sith Lord, but he may in fact have JG's best interests in mind. I don't think there is necessarily anything going on that would be red flags. I think it was a straight up good deal for both teams.

Leaves the Patriots without a backup QB right now. Maybe Kapernick? (as Metalskins laughs and runs away!)

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[quote=metalskins;1178414]I don't know. I mean, if Brady does play until he's 45, that's 5 more years that JG would have to wait to become a starter, and by then, he's 31 years old. Getting a second rounder is a good deal for the Patriots as much as it appears to be a good deal for the 49ers. And, it's a chance for Jimmy to show case his talent as a starter.

And maybe, Hoodie realizes that he doesn't want to coach past 5 more years? I mean, he's 65 years old now and has accomplished about everything a head coach can accomplish in the NFL. He doesn't have anything left to prove. We look at him as this evil Sith Lord, but he may in fact have JG's best interests in mind. I don't think there is necessarily anything going on that would be red flags. I think it was a straight up good deal for both teams.

Leaves the Patriots without a backup QB right now. Maybe Kapernick? (as Metalskins laughs and runs away!)[/quote]

Actually, I think the reason for the trade is that JG has been in the league for 4 years, and so Hoodie knows he will have to make a tough decision about keeping him before Brady is done (which, let's face it, isn't after this year or likely next). So trade JG when his stock is high and then move on to find the Brady replacement who you probably won't need for 3 years, and avoid overpaying for a backup in the interim. I do not think this trade is a reflection of a lack of confidence in JG; I think it is Hoodie being shrewd.

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Brady is not playing until he's 45 that's a joke. Manning and favre thought the same thing.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1178447]Brady is not playing until he's 45 that's a joke. Manning and favre thought the same thing.

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Maybe 2-3 more years, 5 definitely sounds like a big stretch.

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dumb move by the niners. he could conceivably head back to new england after just 8 games

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There’s no way the 49ers make this deal unless they feel pretty good about getting him signed long term. At worst they could franchise him. He’s not going anywhere. Why would he go back to NE to sit on the bench again??

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[quote=dmek25;1178472]dumb move by the niners. he could conceivably head back to new england after just 8 games[/quote]

That's not going to happen. It was a very smart move by the '9ers.

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[quote=metalskins;1178487]That's not going to happen. It was a very smart move by the '9ers.[/quote]

so do we see a KC/Garappolo trade before the end of the season? Hmmm.

J/k, I don't even know if we can trade KC on the FT.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1178490]so do we see a KC/Garappolo trade before the end of the season? Hmmm.

J/k, I don't even know if we can trade KC on the FT.[/quote]

Ha! I don't think we can trade a franchised player, but that's an interesting question! Honestly, I wouldn't mind Garappolo at all if we lost Cousins to San Fran. But I agree with what you said. I don't think San Fran goes through with this trade if they didn't have any intentions of signing JG long term.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1178447][B]Brady is not playing until he's 45 that's a joke[/B]. Manning and favre thought the same thing.

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Probably not, but Manning had multiple neck surgeries that left him with a rag arm. Favre was a gunslinger who often held the ball too long and took a lot of punishment. Brady sometimes doesn't even have to wash his jersey after a game. I think he could last a couple more years than those other 2 guys. Steve Deberg did start one game at 44. I say Brady plays till 42 or 43. Also he is so damn good he can fall off and still be better than average.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1178554]Probably not, but Manning had multiple neck surgeries that left him with a rag arm. Favre was a gunslinger who often held the ball too long and took a lot of punishment. Brady sometimes doesn't even have to wash his jersey after a game. I think he could last a couple more years than those other 2 guys. Steve Deberg did start one game at 44. I say Brady plays till 42 or 43. Also he is so damn good he can fall off and still be better than average.[/quote]

Yeah, it's almost comparing apples to oranges. Brady is so strict with his diet and his conditioning that he's become a freak of nature. He has simply shown no signs of regression like Favre or Manning had shown. OK, he's a bit slow when he scrambles, but he has never been quick on his feet, and he will give up and hit the ground long before other quarterbacks will. Not a knock on Brady, he just has taken all the right precautions to ensure a long and healthy career in the NFL. I'm no Brady fan, but he can easily last until 43. As matter of fact, with Hoyer's contract being a 3 year contract, it kind of makes me believe that when Brady hits 43, he'll retire and Hoodie will make his exit as well.

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[quote=metalskins;1178487]That's not going to happen. It was a very smart move by the '9ers.[/quote]

agreed!
Garapolo gets to go into this off season as the scheduled starter for once and doesn't have to live under Bradys umbrella for the rest of his career.

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To what extent does Brady now think he controls his fate?

"The moment another player's helmet makes contact with my body, my muscles are pliable enough to absorb what's happening instantly," he writes. "My brain is thinking only lengthen and soften and disperse before my body absorbs and disperses the impact evenly and I hit the ground." Or, more simply, as he puts it in the interview, "I know my focus on pliability has helped me avoid so many injuries and bounce back so quickly from hits."

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2017/10/31/tom-bradys-secret-to-staying-healthy-is-apparently-preventing-injuries-with-his-mind/107204580/[/url]

^^ basically the drunk college kid theory. Kid falls off building but survives bc he was so drunk his body was loose and was in a better position to absorb impact.

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[quote=over the mountain;1178561]To what extent does Brady now think he controls his fate?

"The moment another player's helmet makes contact with my body, my muscles are pliable enough to absorb what's happening instantly," he writes. "My brain is thinking only lengthen and soften and disperse before my body absorbs and disperses the impact evenly and I hit the ground." Or, more simply, as he puts it in the interview, "I know my focus on pliability has helped me avoid so many injuries and bounce back so quickly from hits."

[url]https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2017/10/31/tom-bradys-secret-to-staying-healthy-is-apparently-preventing-injuries-with-his-mind/107204580/[/url]

^^ basically the drunk college kid theory. Kid falls off building but survives bc he was so drunk his body was loose and was in a better position to absorb impact.[/quote]

Maybe that is Brady's training regime all along. He just tanks up on Tequila before he goes out to play and somehow, it allows him to throw those deflated balls so much crisper and allows him to absorb all of those hits! I'll drink to that!