#86 Jordan Reed
 

Reed is often injured and can't stay healthy for very long. But when he's on the field his abilities rival the great HOFer Kellen Winslow Sr., who is considered the best TE to ever play the game. At this point do the Redskins really need Reed, considering we have the capable Vernon Davis?.... what would the Redskins receive in a good trade for Reed ?

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Who is Jordan Reed?

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Reed needs to just retire. Between his concussions and his injuries, he’ll be a babbling, broken mess if he continues to play into his 30s.


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Davis is good for another year or 2 but we need to replace reed this OS. He isn't reliable enough to even worry about anymore.

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"The capable Vernon Davis." "His abilities rival the great HOFer Kellen Winslow."

Bro nothing personal here but thinking we can bail on Reed because 33yo Vernon Davis is having a great season as a backup is crazy. I hope Davis can have another good couple years here as the backup but the only thing Reed being injured constantly means is we absolutely have to have a solid backup insurance policy for when the inevitable happens. I'm hoping Jeremy Sprinkle turns into that guy, but he's got a ways to go.

Reed is also good, don't get me wrong. But I don't ever want to see him compared to HOFer's because he's not gonna get in. He is too injury prone to put together the type of career length necessary to put up the stats needed to get in. In fact, with how injured he is now, I'd be surprised if he lasts another 5-8 years. Eventually one of these days the concussions, or the leg/hips/core injuries he keeps suffering will take its' toll and he will retire.

Also the fact that he's injury prone means we're not gonna get much in a trade, and if we did it would be conditional on him having a healthy year. Not worth it.

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[quote=mooby;1180526]"The capable Vernon Davis." "His abilities rival the great HOFer Kellen Winslow."

Bro nothing personal here but thinking we can bail on Reed because 33yo Vernon Davis is having a great season as a backup is crazy. I hope Davis can have another good couple years here as the backup but the only thing Reed being injured constantly means is we absolutely have to have a solid backup insurance policy for when the inevitable happens. I'm hoping Jeremy Sprinkle turns into that guy, but he's got a ways to go.

Reed is also good, don't get me wrong. But I don't ever want to see him compared to HOFer's because he's not gonna get in. He is too injury prone to put together the type of career length necessary to put up the stats needed to get in. In fact, with how injured he is now, I'd be surprised if he lasts another 5-8 years. Eventually one of these days the concussions, or the leg/hips/core injuries he keeps suffering will take its' toll and he will retire.

Also the fact that he's injury prone means we're not gonna get much in a trade, and if we did it would be conditional on him having a healthy year. Not worth it.[/quote]

I concur 💯%!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1180523]Who is Jordan Reed?[/quote]Exactly. Can't count on Reed to be available.

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Hes 27. Played 12 games last year, 14 games year before that.

We needed him to step up this year and his body wont allow it.

Hes signed through 2021. Going to be a 10.3M cap hit next year. 5.4M in dead cap if we cut him after this year.

Tough decision. If he is healthy, its a no brainer he is worth 10M per. But he isnt and his blocking handicaps playcalling to a degree.

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Hopefully Sprinkle continues to develop. Goes without saying Reed simply can’t be counted on.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1180610]Hopefully Sprinkle continues to develop. Goes without saying Reed simply can’t be counted on.[/QUOTE]Sprinkle is your traditional blocking TE that is a solid possession or goal line guy. Jordan Reed is a kelce and gronk level player when healthy, unfortunately that never happens

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[quote=over the mountain;1180605]Hes 27. Played 12 games last year, 14 games year before that.

We needed him to step up this year and his body wont allow it.

Hes signed through 2021. Going to be a 10.3M cap hit next year. 5.4M in dead cap if we cut him after this year.

Tough decision. If he is healthy, its a no brainer he is worth 10M per. But he isnt and his blocking handicaps playcalling to a degree.[/quote]

Well because of his contract you bring him back, unless you can trade him. I would trade him if they got something decent in return. If not then I would only play the guy on obvious passing downs.

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1180523]Who is Jordan Reed?[/QUOTE]



Remember that dude we drafted a few years ago. Was an absolute nightmare for opposing teams and looked like a damn future HOF’er ? He went in for an x-ray and they found out he was made mostly out of glass. Cheap ass glass too not pyrex. [emoji22]

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[quote=MTK;1180610]Hopefully Sprinkle continues to develop. Goes without saying Reed simply can’t be counted on.[/quote]

[url]https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/watch-jeremy-sprinkle-unveils-fitting-sprinkles-celebration-first-nfl-td/[/url]

Good TD celebration yesterday too

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Being as he has a high dead cap number and we need to make a lot of picks on defense, I'd keep him next year. But if 2018 is anything like 2017, a TE would be a high priority in the 2019 draft and I'd let Reed go.

Hopefully by 2019 Sprinkle is ready to start.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1180656][url]https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/watch-jeremy-sprinkle-unveils-fitting-sprinkles-celebration-first-nfl-td/[/url]



Good TD celebration yesterday too[/QUOTE]



I thought maybe he was doing a little salt bae

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Re: #86 Jordan Reed
 

It's so aggravating; Reed could have been the difference maker in several of The Redskins losses. If he had been healthy Wash would have at least two more wins. :(

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[quote=Bishop Hammer;1180690]It's so aggravating; Reed could have been the difference maker in several of The Redskins losses. If he had been healthy Wash would have at least two more wins. :([/quote]Really? Has Reed had more than 50 yards in a game this year? I think his toe injury from last year continued to be an issue this season before the current hamstring injury. It's always something with Reed.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1180510]Reed is often injured and can't stay healthy for very long. But when he's on the field his abilities rival the great HOFer Kellen Winslow Sr., who is considered the best TE to ever play the game. At this point do the Redskins really need Reed, considering we have the capable Vernon Davis?.... what would the Redskins receive in a good trade for Reed ?[/quote]

His career is closer to Winslow Jr than Sr. Ability doesn’t mean crap if it doesn’t come with availability. Don’t see a team giving up more than a 3rd for him considering his contract and injury history.

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[quote=Eagles1;1181183]His career is closer to Winslow Jr than Sr. Ability doesn’t mean crap if it doesn’t come with availability. Don’t see a team giving up more than a 3rd for him considering his contract and injury history.[/quote]

I concur....Reed is like glass....he breaks a lot.... I'm sure the front office can get a second round pick for him.... there has to be at least one NFL front office imprudent enough to give that for Reed.....

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When Reed is 100%, he is easily a top 3 TE in the league. FACT

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Based on his contract it’s highly unlikely he’s going anywhere anytime soon.

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[quote=MTK;1181197]Based on his contract it’s highly unlikely he’s going anywhere anytime soon.[/quote]

I don't think he is worth close to a $1 million dollars a game.... 2018 contract is $10 million

Top 3 TE ? - nope - even if he is healthy

://www.profootballfocus.com/news/fantasy-football-te-rankings

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1181195]I concur....Reed is like glass....he breaks a lot.... I'm sure the front office can get a second round pick for him.... there has to be at least one NFL front office imprudent enough to give that for Reed.....[/quote]

:laughing-

Uh...no they couldn't.

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[quote=Chico23231;1181196]When Reed is 100%, he is easily a top 3 TE in the league. FACT[/quote]

He's rarely healthy and can't block. They might as well ask him to drop 15 lbs, split him out wide and put him at wr. He can probably block corners, he can't block NFL LB's.

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He doesn’t get paid to block

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[quote=MTK;1181232]He doesn’t get paid to block[/quote]

He does when they call a 3rd and 1 run to his side and he whiffs a LB like a bull fighter.

I don't blame him. Reed is willing but lacks the ability or lacks the ability to improve it. Jay keeps calling runs where he DOES have to make a crucial block. He is terrible.

Totally agree with the other posters in this thread. He is easily our top receiver. Just start lining him up as a receiver.

Just use him as a receiver already.

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It’s the nature of the position these days, TE’s like Reed are difference makers in the pass game and you live with their limitations as an in-line blocker. Line him up outside and you’re taking away one of the big advantages he has in mainly going against LB’s and safeties.

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[quote=MTK;1181232]He doesn’t get paid to block[/quote]

Then as I said, put him out at Wr. As a TE you have to be able to block some and he can't. They split him out wide and away from the line anyway. A few years ago I remember a TE was arguing that since he was split out wide so much that he ought to be paid like a wr, wince his duties were mostly like the wr's. Might have been Jimmy Graham..

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[quote=MTK;1181243]It’s the nature of the position these days, TE’s like Reed are difference makers in the pass game and you live with [B][U]their limitations[/U][/B] as an in-line blocker. Line him up outside and you’re taking away one of the big advantages he has in mainly going against LB’s and safeties.[/quote]

You said it yourself, Reid is a limited football player that needs special treatment. He is a one trick pony, situational receiver that is physically weak, injury prone and has limited toughness. As such it would not be wise fiscally to sign Reid to a big contract as your #1 TE.

Reid's future in the NFL is as a player that comes off the bench. He is not a #1 because he can not last, he is not durable enough to be a #1 TE for any team.

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Reed is a matchup nightmare. I really hope we continue to sprinkle in some young talent going forward

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Maybe he and trent will be back next week

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1181271]Maybe he and trent will be back next week

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We will need them. As bad as the Boys look these days, I’ll bet they’re plenty motivated after being embarrassed at home this week. And it’s us.


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[quote=Chico23231;1181255]Reed is a matchup nightmare. I really hope we continue to sprinkle in some young talent going forward[/quote]

I see what you did there.

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[url=http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/34833/jordan-reeds-continued-absence-impacts-vernon-davis-production]Jordan Reed's continued absence has impact on Vernon Davis' production - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN[/url]

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They have to re negotiate Reed's contract. He showed up to camp w/ a toe issue and it's been downhill since. How do you hurt your toe and you're not even getting hit? Plus he's got the concussion issues. IDK, I'd rather have someone that's a more complete player that can stay on the field, rather than one who's hurt all the time, can't block and may have to retire if he takes another hit to the head.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1182488]They have to re negotiate Reed's contract. He showed up to camp w/ a toe issue and it's been downhill since. How do you hurt your toe and you're not even getting hit? Plus he's got the concussion issues. IDK, I'd rather have someone that's a more complete player that can stay on the field, rather than one who's hurt all the time, can't block and may have to retire if he takes another hit to the head.[/quote]

I'd rather have about 10 TE's right now over him, he is made of glass and can't block for crap. Good player for 4-5 games a yr then he's out for the rest

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I like Sprinkle..continue to coach up...V Davis is coming back next year...and let Jordan Reed heal up...I wouldn't change anything. Nile Paul has been good, but time to move on...maybe spend a late round pick for a practice squad type TE if one seems coachable with promise.

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The toe issue was bigger and he tried to go on it which probably led to the the constant hamstring issues this year. Give him an offseason of rest and rehab and next year he will be a top 5 TE again.

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5th year in the league, he misses an average of 5-6 games a year and isn't 100% for many of the games he has played in. He has never played a full season. I seriously doubt he is suddenly going to have better luck staying on the field as he gets older, I think it is time to move on from him.

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I think our pass catching TEs have diminished our ability to run. How much, idk.

Id look to get a good well rounded, 3 down TE. Cooley is big on the Wisky TE Troy Fumagali. About the 3rd rated TE in the draft.