One thing will never change.
 

Our offense looks great, but will consistant bad calls from the officials against us ever stop? That safety would have won the game for us. #()*

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Yep I agree! I always say that only losers complain about the refs....but in this case, there is no way possible that is an incomplete pass!

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That and Bill Maas will continue to be the stupidest, most annoying analyst in the game.. Bill, it's raining and wet, we get it. Also, did anyone else catch his 'The Drive happened right here on this field' comment? Uh, genius, not only was that in Cleveland, but the Broncos have a new stadium now..

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I'd like the league to apologise for the pass interference on Cooley for the TD and the sfaety that we didn't get.

More officating BS.

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Yeah, both him and BALDwinger are molded from the same piece of clay it seems.

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I'm just disappointed in our defense. Nothing will erase a 34 yard td, and a 55 yard td from my mind, unless we get a blowout win. Just really disappointed in our run defense, is all. And they still won't play Lavar. What's up with that?

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the calls were horrible

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I'm not sure how a pro ref could possibly miss the pass interference on Cooley. The ref must have been trying to make up for something. It just isn't possible that he didn't see it. Terrible.

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even the broncos faithful are saying the safety was a safety!

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Well the thing is, that is what was called on the field, but they reviewed it. There were some BIG TIME homers up there in the review booth, that's all I'm sayin!

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[QUOTE=mooby]I'm just disappointed in our defense. Nothing will erase a 34 yard td, and a 55 yard td from my mind, unless we get a blowout win. Just really disappointed in our run defense, is all. And they still won't play Lavar. What's up with that?[/QUOTE]

Hey, folks. I'm over here now. I'm tired of that other extreme board. I was a vet over there but now its just to crowded to have a good conversation. To much riff raff.

Anyway.

The refs were terrible but our D looked average at best today. I was getting mad at Williams for the first time for all the bull with LaVar. LaVar is a great cover LB, creates turnovers and is an all pro. I was just watching a special on LBs on comcast. If you can find it watch it.

Singletary was on it. He couched Ray Lewis his first 2 years. Sam Huff was feactured also. Anyway, one of the main points they made was, if you have a great LB, you don't change him, you work with who they are and the style they play. Maybe this is the one weak point in Williams style. He can bend and because he cant, he leaves a tallent like LaVar on the bench.

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[QUOTE=hands11]Hey, folks. I'm over here now. I'm tired of that other extreme board. I was a vet over there but now its just to crowded to have a good conversation. To much riff raff.

Anyway.

The refs were terrible but our D looked average at best today. I was getting mad at Williams for the first time for all the bull with LaVar. LaVar is a great cover LB, creates turnovers and is an all pro. I was just watching a special on LBs on comcast. If you can find it watch it.

Singletary was on it. He couched Ray Lewis his first 2 years. Sam Huff was feactured also. Anyway, one of the main points they made was, if you have a great LB, you don't change him, you work with who they are and the style they play. Maybe this is the one weak point in Williams style. He can bend and because he cant, he leaves a tallent like LaVar on the bench.[/QUOTE]

Welcome over from the dark side...the force is strong with this one.

I think the D started to buckle down in the second half, but the first half they let the Broncos get too many extra yards. Maybe the rain was the reason, but there was just too much poor tackling I thought

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We got robbed

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[QUOTE=mooby]I'm just disappointed in our defense. Nothing will erase a 34 yard td, and a 55 yard td from my mind, unless we get a blowout win. Just really disappointed in our run defense, is all. And they still won't play Lavar. What's up with that?[/QUOTE]


I agree, those runs are why we lost the game. Theres no point in talking about a safety if your defense gave up a long run on 4th down for a td, and an even longer run on third for a td..

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Even Boomer on prime time questioned the call.......of course, no comment from former Bronco player and Bronco fan Tom Jackson :rolleyes:

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[QUOTE=mooby]I'm just disappointed in our defense. Nothing will erase a 34 yard td, and a 55 yard td from my mind, unless we get a blowout win. Just really disappointed in our run defense, is all. And they still won't play Lavar. What's up with that?[/QUOTE]

I think the fact that Springs and Harris didn't play against the Broncos was a major factor.

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[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]I agree, those runs are why we lost the game. Theres no point in talking about a safety if your defense gave up a long run on 4th down for a td, and an even longer run on third for a td..[/QUOTE]

On top of that a blocked FG, gettting flagged on another. While the refs were wearing Bronco turtlenecks today, we beat ourselves.

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[QUOTE=monk81]I think the fact that Springs and Harris didn't play against the Broncos was a major factor.[/QUOTE]


Yeah, I believe if Springs was defending on that second TD - Denver would have settled for a field goal on that drive. Calling a fade against Jimoh was just too easy!

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]We got robbed[/QUOTE]

That we did....too many poor calls. And that safety was a safety!

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we got some questionable calls go our way, too, so you can't blame the refs for the lose. The 2 big runs are what did us in. I wonder if Lavar would have made a difference?

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[QUOTE=RedskinRat]I'd like the league to apologise for the pass interference on Cooley for the TD and the sfaety that we didn't get.

More officating BS.[/QUOTE]
screw the league and tagliafool,if they arent going to fine bears guy for that decap on ramsey they sure in the hell aint going to apologize for any other bullshit,and that call on Brunell running past the line of scrimmage,how can that be reviewed if a flag wasnt thrown?

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan]screw the league and tagliafool,if they arent going to fine bears guy for that decap on ramsey they sure in the hell aint going to apologize for any other bullshit,and that call on Brunell running past the line of scrimmage,how can that be reviewed if a flag wasnt thrown?[/QUOTE]

it was within 2 minutes if I remember right, but what sucked is that from they showed on tv, I didn't think it was indisputable evidence. It's not on the same scale, but I now understand why Raider fans hate the freakin tuck rule cuz that would have been an absolutely huge momentum shifter. That Patten PI call was absolute BS and yet when there was some contact on the Lelie TD, no yellow flag made it's way onto the field. And despite the tough loss and the circumstances about how it happened, I believe we all have to be a lot more hopefull of our teams chances right now as opposed to what we had seen in the preseason especially on the offensive side of the ball. I can only imagine what this team will be like when the offense is able to capitalize on the amount of yards their putting up by putting up the points to match the production. :food-smil

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[QUOTE=hands11]Hey, folks. I'm over here now. I'm tired of that other extreme board. I was a vet over there but now its just to crowded to have a good conversation. To much riff raff.

Anyway.

The refs were terrible but our D looked average at best today. I was getting mad at Williams for the first time for all the bull with LaVar. LaVar is a great cover LB, creates turnovers and is an all pro. I was just watching a special on LBs on comcast. If you can find it watch it.

Singletary was on it. He couched Ray Lewis his first 2 years. Sam Huff was feactured also. Anyway, one of the main points they made was, if you have a great LB, you don't change him, you work with who they are and the style they play. Maybe this is the one weak point in Williams style. He can bend and because he cant, he leaves a tallent like LaVar on the bench.[/QUOTE]

Welcome!

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[QUOTE=mooby]I'm just disappointed in our defense. Nothing will erase a 34 yard td, and a 55 yard td from my mind, unless we get a blowout win. Just really disappointed in our run defense, is all. And they still won't play Lavar. What's up with that?[/QUOTE]

I felt the same way about the big runs by Bell, but this will not become the norm for our team. We played pretty solid accept on those 2 big plays. I just hope Portis understands how important it is to not turn the freakin ball over. That will land him in Joe Gibbs's doghouse. Stop the joking Clinton and get down to business and start scoring some TDs.

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Didn't Portis run for over 100 today?

Just checking.

Yeah the botched handoff hurt, but he still had a good game.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Didn't Portis run for over 100 today?

Just checking.

Yeah the botched handoff hurt, but he still had a good game.[/QUOTE]

Yep. Thats our first loss when Portis went over 100 yards. He had 20 for 103.

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FYI....Portis has 263 yards rushing so far, 4 games into the season. Would like to see more 100 yard rushing games out of him.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]FYI....Portis has 263 yards rushing so far, 4 games into the season. Would like to see more 100 yard rushing games out of him.[/QUOTE]

Actually he had 263 coming in to today, he now has 366 through 4 games.

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[QUOTE=skinsguy]FYI....Portis has 263 yards rushing so far, 4 games into the season. Would like to see more 100 yard rushing games out of him.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure its 366. He had 263 coming into this game +103=366



Damn you Mattyk! Beat me too it.

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it feels like portis is catching more balls too. I felt during the game that portis had atleast 3 or 4 catches but then i saw it was only 2. We should let him catch more

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What about the play where the Broncos argued the Brunell grounded the ball and the refs go ahead 30 seconds after the play is over and then toss the flag? It was grounding, but I thought arguing with the refs doesn't change the call?

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this will only mean one thing
we should start winning like the colts do
a 10 to 15 pont margin

so that any tuck rule will not cost us any game
and this can be attainable
by the way tha brunnel and the offense plays


just give us few more weeks
and we will put points in the board
as well as shut down opposing teams


go skins

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[QUOTE=bertoskins]this will only mean one thing
we should start winning like the colts do
a 10 to 15 pont margin

so that any tuck rule will not cost us any game
and this can be attainable
by the way tha brunnel and the offense plays


just give us few more weeks
and we will put points in the board
as well as shut down opposing teams


go skins[/QUOTE]

Just curious. Is there a reason your posts come out looking like haikus?

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it is poetic, should be in a book

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people talk about portis, but the thing is i want to see rushing tds from him, i mean his yards are nice, but hey, tds are more important. i think it's time for portis to get serious and have a big day against the chiefs. this drought has to stop. but another person i'm impressed with is mark brunell. who would've thought in four games he'd have 6 tds and 2 ints? that's pretty damn good.

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I don't care who gets them or how, bottom line is we need more TDs period.

We racked up over 400 yards today and moved the ball at will at times, with that kind of yardage we should be putting up 30+ points.

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The only thing I dislike with the offense thus far is our goal line packages for rushing, they simply don't seem to work. We need to find SOME way to punch it in, we're playing much better than I expected this year though, I don't feel as if we can complain TOO much.

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Everytime I saw Tatum Bell break off tackle and race for 50+ yards, I was wondering, WHY IS LEVAR ARRINGTION ON THE BENCH? I've been watching Holdman closely and he is not spectacular. He gets blocked and caught up in traffic. When he does make the play he barely brings the runner down. When Levar gets to the carrier, he brings the PAIN. He hits with impact. Other than Sean Taylor, that's missing out there. The defense is not the reason we lost the game, but the Skins have an impact player riding the pine and it doesn't make sense. The Skins are not creating enough turnovers. They need their BIG HITTER out there. If the Skins are going to win with defense they need to invoke fear into their opponents. FREE ARRINGTON!!!

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If Williams doesn't think Lavar can play, then thats fine by me. He knows him better than I. I think he'll progressively be worked in.

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[QUOTE=Redskins88]That we did....too many poor calls. And that safety was a safety![/QUOTE]

I was a little rusty on the tuck rule so I did a little reading.

Its intention is to have the call be incomplete unless the QB is pulling the ball back into his body. The question is, how do you define that. It's not clear.

But in this case, it was. Plummer actually got his loose hand on the ball. He had completed his throwing motion, the ball was in his throwing hand and coming down by his mid section when it got close enough to his body for him to touch it with his off hand. He was tring to get both hands on it but it slipped through both hands and went backward. So it a fumble.

If its not that, then he actually throw the ball backward, again, making it a live ball.

This was indeed a terrible call. Even Denver reacted like it was a fumble.

So that's 2 points and I believe, we get the ball back with a ton of momentum.

3 pts on the penalty on the FG. 3 Pts on the blocked FG.
The Patton penalty didnt matter, we score a TD later anyway.

As mentioned we didnt have our starting corners and we are still sitting an all pro on the bench.

We are making progress every game. Remember how bad this offense was. We keep adding something every game. We should have won this one.
We are going to have a nice season.

I was pro Brunell as early as the 2nd preseason game. Now I don't think anyone could even imagine Ramsey in there. Seeing Brunell do all the thing a QB needs to do kind of points out how far Ramsey really need to progress before he could play. Honestly, at this point, I dont think he is a pro QB. You have to be able to move better then he does and make decissions quicker and better, plus he has no arc on his ball to make the passes that need to be made. We better hope Brunell stay healthy this year and next because it's going to be hard to replace him with someone how knows all that he knows and can do all that he does.

Ramsey is good for crossing patterns in the middle and outs, where your in the pocket and you have to gun it on a line. That's not going to get it done in the NFL, so I think he is done. He is a Jay Shreider (sp). Jay was a baseball palyer turned QB. Ramsey is a javelin thrower turned QB. There is a lot more to it then a strong arm. Now that you see Brunell doing so many things, the difference seems night and day between the two.