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Do we need more cornerbacks?
Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!)
Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB? |
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[QUOTE=Stacks42]Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!)
Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB?[/QUOTE] You make a point I was about to bring up earlier. Especially since GW likes to play alot DBs in his defensive schemes. The trouble is they are carrying two kickers right now which limits some roster spots. Once Hall is ready to go, we will bring another DB aboard. I would think they are going to play alot of cover 2 and 3 this weekend. We may end up looking a little soft on the run, but I dont think we are going to give up any big plays down the field. We still have Taylor who could like up with the 3rd or 4th receiver and bring Bowen in for over the top help. I think we will be ok. |
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yeah, we have plenty of safties who can play pretty good pass coverage.
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welcome, i want more CBs and more WRs.
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its a great question that i asked when we didnt cut NEMO.
so... why is nemo still on the team? |
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[QUOTE=jamf]so... why is nemo still on the team?[/QUOTE]
Portis is listed as probable and Betts is listed as doubtful for this week. |
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I think we should at least have another CB on the practice squad so he can learn the D system, so he can be brought on if we have another CB go down
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I think this is a really good question I am wondering do most teams carry 5? If they do carry 5 do they leave one inactive? What did we do last year? Seems weird to be carrying only 4 at such an important spot. Who plays nickle when Harris and Springs are out? What if a team goes 4 wide?
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With the ineffective D-line (with two useless DEs), the average LBs (except M. Washington), and the banged up secondary, if we are a top 5 defense at the end of the year, GW deserves the Nobel Prize for defense. That will be a truly remarkable achievement, probably the greatest ever by a skins def. coordinator.
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Taylor can play Man to Man
Prioleau was a corner in college Stoudamire was a corner in college Clark was a Corner for NYG williams knows what he wants and he likes CB's all over the place, he just likes CB's who can hit to play Safety Bowen is the only one i think that doesnt have CB experience and i dont want him to start getting some here |
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[QUOTE=Stacks42]Just to take a few secs to introduce myself, 28 yr old skins fan, been a fan since I was six when I first attended RFK w/ my dad. Now a season ticket holder myself. Im a die hard fan and have been to nearly every home game for the past 12 yrs, and have even ventured to Philly and NY for skins games (Philly is dangerous!)
Ok now with the question: Is it wise for the redskins to only carry 4 cornerbacks? It really bothers me that we have two starting cornerbacks, that are injury prone (they have held up and I like them both) but behind them we have Rogers who is a rookie and Jimoh (who did play well last week) but is by no means a starter in the NFL. With the propensity for NFL teams to have 4 and 5 WR sets, we could potentially have covering them, a rookie, a special teamer, a safety, and LB's. Does that worry anyone else? We will face a great team this week in KC that can put up a bunch of yards in the air, Harris and Springs are supposed to start but neither is 100%, should the skins have searched the waiver wires for an extra CB?[/QUOTE] #56 is excactly right!!! Dont forget Clark, and Pierson Prioleau is healthy now! |
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I also have to say that in the games that Pierson played, he was playing excellent football.
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if clark can play corner, then wtf was ade doing on the field?
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Ok I understand that we have safeties that can play CB if need be, but look at it this way. We have NFL backups at DL we have NFL backups at LB now we are moving towards NFL backups as CB and at safety if we move the safeties to CB. I love GW and his system has done wonders, its great!, but you cant keep a top ten defense in the NFL with sub par talent
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sean taylor, walt harris, shawn springs....who wouldn't want them on their defense? if not, who you would take? i think they are way above 'par'
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Not them, they are Skins starters, and are doing a great job when healthy. What im saying is: Springs is hurt, harris constantly gets hurt, so we may have to move Taylor down to help at CB, which leaves his safety spot to NFL backups, or use Jimoh at CB again. Im an eternal optimist when it comes to the skins. Everyone is saying how great it was that our back up CB's kept the Broncos under 100 yrds recieving, but the Broncos didnt have to throw the ball because they already had the lead, and did not want to chance the throw in such miserable conditions because they had the lead and the running game was working just fine for them. Like when we get the lead an Gibbs is perfectly content to hand the ball of for the rest of the game rather than chance a pick.
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Re: Do we need more cornerbacks?
nice post, welcome to the board.
We have a ton of safties with bowen, taylor, prioleu, clark, stoudmaire... So im assuming Williams has confidence in their ability. A replacement for Jimoh would be nice though, lol ;) |
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Ryan Clark is probably the most underrated of the bunch. He's starting caliber with any other team. Bowen is too, though, and you could easily make the argument for stoutmire and Prioleau.
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i don't know why but ryan clark is definatly one of my favorite players, I wouldn't be upset if he was always our safty next to taylor
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I think Bowen is the only one with terrible man coverage ... this is mostly based off him getting burned by keyshawn johnson 2 years ago which made me so angry i turned off the television
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We dont have many corners on the team, but there is a reason for that. First, like others have already said, Williams has great cover safeties and LB's. That offers a way to take the pressure off the CB when injuries happen and a backup needs help. Second, Williams uses schemes that often brings pressure from the secondary on obvious passing downs. This means a bad CB (like Jimoh) can be as hero as a great tackler when he is put in a blitzing situation. Ive seen Williams drop Washington and Marshall off the line to cover WR's. I've even seen Williams drop Griffin and Salavea into coverage off the DL.
On the surface it looks bad. It's just not as bad as it looks. |
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Here's the chance for Carlos Rogers to shine and make his case for a starting job while the rest of the secondary is banged up.
Now it's time for him to step up and prove why he was a first round pick. For me, in the limited playing time he's had, I haven't exactly seen it. |
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