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I'm glad we can put that topic to rest. Crucial push by Clinton after being smacked at the line to get a first down sealing the game. Great game Portis keeping us alive into December!!!

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Hail to CP, dude is a baller.

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he doesn't miss games... you know how hard that is for a RB? I love his blocking too...

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[QUOTE=Luxorreb]I'm glad we can put that topic to rest. Crucial push by Clinton after being smacked at the line to get a first down sealing the game. Great game Portis keeping us alive into December!!![/QUOTE]

Yeah. Sealing up the win in the final moments by gaining a first down. Too bad it's the only the second time since week one against Chicago that he's done that.

The running game by itself is still not enough to pick up the slack for a poor passing attack.

The real hero was Antonio Brown.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]Yeah. Sealing up the win in the final moments by gaining a first down. Too bad it's the only the second time since week one against Chicago that he's done that.

The running game by itself is still not enough to pick up the slack for a poor passing attack.

The real hero was Antonio Brown.[/QUOTE]
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did those time sucking drives where Portis carried the load dutifully down after down not happen? did that sole offensive TD he made not happen?

i swear, i dont get this insane conspiracy to dismiss all of Portis's efforts this season.

there is more than one hero from this game.

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[QUOTE=illdefined]did those time sucking drives where Portis carried the load dutifully down after down not happen? did that sole offensive TD he made not happen?

i swear, i dont get this insane conspiracy to dismiss all of Portis's efforts this season.

there is more than one hero from this game.[/QUOTE]

plus did anyone see that one block he made by practically throwing his body through the air to stop the blitzer? and it was absolutely amazing to watch his TD run with him holding onto the back of Sellers jersey for dear life and it allowed him to maintain his balance and dance along the sideline into the endzone. Mad props from me to Portis for todays game. :dallas:

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People who can't appreciate Portis are just blind IMO.

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]plus did anyone see that one block he made by practically throwing his body through the air to stop the blitzer?[/QUOTE]

which down of which game? just par for the course for Portis

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[QUOTE=illdefined]which down of which game? just par for the course for Portis[/QUOTE]

I've seen him make awesome blocks but todays cross body block made my jaw drop.

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CP played great today. It was good to see him live in a skins uniform! That last run was the shiznit.

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[QUOTE=illdefined]did those time sucking drives where Portis carried the load dutifully down after down not happen? did that sole offensive TD he made not happen?

i swear, i dont get this insane conspiracy to dismiss all of Portis's efforts this season.

there is more than one hero from this game.[/QUOTE]


Time sucking drives? In the fourth quarter, there were four Redskin offensive drives:

1-10-WAS6 (15:00) M.Brunell pass to S.Moss pushed ob at WAS 11 for 5 yards (L.Reid).
2-5-WAS11 (14:25) C.Portis left tackle to WAS 12 for 1 yard (A.Wilson).
3-4-WAS12 (13:46) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 17 for 5 yards (D.Macklin).
1-10-WAS17 (13:03) C.Portis right tackle to WAS 19 for 2 yards (K.Dansby).
2-8-WAS19 (12:23) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 25 for 6 yards (L.Reid).
3-2-WAS24 (11:38) (Shotgun) M.Brunell FUMBLES (Aborted) at WAS 21, recovered by WAS-J.Jansen at WAS 24. J.Jansen to WAS 24 for no gain (K.Dansby).
4-3-WAS24 (11:02) D.Frost punts 52 yards to ARZ 24, Center-E.Albright. R.Swinton to ARZ 29 for 5 yards (M.Bowen).

[B]Clinton Portis -- 2 carries, 3 yards. Total time "sucked" : 3 minutes, 58 seconds.[/B]

Washington Redskins at 10:05
1-10-WAS33 (10:05) C.Portis right tackle to WAS 34 for 1 yard (O.Huff).
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Smith, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 33 - No Play.
1-5-WAS38 (9:41) C.Portis right end to WAS 37 for -1 yards (C.Okeafor).
2-6-WAS37 (8:54) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 42 for 5 yards (O.Huff).
3-1-WAS42 (8:12) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley.
4-1-WAS42 (8:06) D.Frost punts 48 yards to ARZ 10, Center-E.Albright, downed by WAS.

[B]Clinton Portis - 2 carries, 0 yards. Total time "sucked": 2 minutes, 1 second. [/B]

Washington Redskins at 05:54
1-10-WAS20 (5:54) C.Portis right tackle to WAS 20 for no gain (T.Bulman).
2-10-WAS20 (5:12) C.Portis up the middle to WAS 19 for -1 yards (J.Darling).
3-11-WAS19 (4:29) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss.
4-11-WAS19 (4:24) D.Frost punts 42 yards to ARZ 39, Center-E.Albright. R.Swinton to ARZ 49 for 10 yards (R.Cartwright). Penalty on WAS-M.Sellers, Ineligible Downfield Kick, declined.
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Francisco, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at WAS 49.

[B]Clinton Portis - 2 carries, -1 yard. Total time "sucked": 1 minute, 30 seconds[/B]

Washington Redskins at 01:59
1-10-WAS28 (1:59) M.Brunell pass to R.Royal to WAS 46 for 18 yards (J.Darling).
1-10-WAS46 (1:56) C.Portis up the middle to WAS 49 for 3 yards (A.Wilson).
2-7-WAS49 (1:52) C.Portis right end to 50 for 1 yard (R.Kolodziej).
3-6-50 (1:47) C.Portis up the middle to ARZ 43 for 7 yards (J.Darling, O.Huff).

[B]Clinton Portis - 3 carries, 11 yards.[/B] On this drive, it was the first time since week one when the Skins fed the ball to Portis, with the lead in hand, and he got the yardage necessary to seal the win. However, the statistics say that Portis, until that final 7-yard run on third and 6, is not and has not been the right running back to finish out games and "suck" time off the clock. If anyone thinks that the "heroics" Portis gave us against the inept Cardinals will be enough against the Cowboys or Giants, they're in for a serious letdown.

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This was "The Portis Game".

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]plus did anyone see that one block he made by practically throwing his body through the air to stop the blitzer? and it was absolutely amazing to watch his TD run with him holding onto the back of Sellers jersey for dear life and it allowed him to maintain his balance and dance along the sideline into the endzone. Mad props from me to Portis for todays game. :dallas:[/QUOTE]

That is definitely my favorite play of the year thus far...it was hilarious!

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you must really have an irrational hate for Clinton Portis to compile all that information..

AND completely dismiss the 8 MINUTE THIRD QUARTER 10 RUSH drive that ended in this game's sole offensive touchdown. Go Skins? :confused:

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]
[B]Clinton Portis -- 2 carries, 3 yards. Total time "sucked" : 3 minutes, 58 seconds.[/B]
[B]Clinton Portis - 2 carries, 0 yards. Total time "sucked": 2 minutes, 1 second. [/B]
[B]Clinton Portis - 2 carries, -1 yard. Total time "sucked": 1 minute, 30 seconds[/B]
[B]Clinton Portis - 3 carries, 11 yards.[/B] On this drive, it was the first time since week one when the Skins fed the ball to Portis, with the lead in hand, and he got the yardage necessary to seal the win....[/QUOTE]

you didn't include the time on that last drive. i'm curious to know since i'd like to add it to the HALF QUARTER you just stated he "sucked", with the team ahead like you said, and every defender dedicated to stopping him.

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[QUOTE=Beemnseven]Time sucking drives? In the fourth quarter, there were four Redskin offensive drives:

1-10-WAS6 (15:00) M.Brunell pass to S.Moss pushed ob at WAS 11 for 5 yards (L.Reid).
2-5-WAS11 (14:25) C.Portis left tackle to WAS 12 for 1 yard (A.Wilson).
3-4-WAS12 (13:46) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 17 for 5 yards (D.Macklin).
1-10-WAS17 (13:03) C.Portis right tackle to WAS 19 for 2 yards (K.Dansby).
2-8-WAS19 (12:23) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 25 for 6 yards (L.Reid).
3-2-WAS24 (11:38) (Shotgun) M.Brunell FUMBLES (Aborted) at WAS 21, recovered by WAS-J.Jansen at WAS 24. J.Jansen to WAS 24 for no gain (K.Dansby).
4-3-WAS24 (11:02) D.Frost punts 52 yards to ARZ 24, Center-E.Albright. R.Swinton to ARZ 29 for 5 yards (M.Bowen).

Is it that you hate there is another Clinton running D.C., I mean a man can't live off Bush alone

[b]Clinton Portis -- 2 carries, 3 yards. Total time "sucked" : 3 minutes, 58 seconds.[/b]

Washington Redskins at 10:05
1-10-WAS33 (10:05) C.Portis right tackle to WAS 34 for 1 yard (O.Huff).
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Smith, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 33 - No Play.
1-5-WAS38 (9:41) C.Portis right end to WAS 37 for -1 yards (C.Okeafor).
2-6-WAS37 (8:54) M.Brunell pass to C.Portis to WAS 42 for 5 yards (O.Huff).
3-1-WAS42 (8:12) M.Brunell pass incomplete to C.Cooley.
4-1-WAS42 (8:06) D.Frost punts 48 yards to ARZ 10, Center-E.Albright, downed by WAS.

[b]Clinton Portis - 2 carries, 0 yards. Total time "sucked": 2 minutes, 1 second. [/b]

Washington Redskins at 05:54
1-10-WAS20 (5:54) C.Portis right tackle to WAS 20 for no gain (T.Bulman).
2-10-WAS20 (5:12) C.Portis up the middle to WAS 19 for -1 yards (J.Darling).
3-11-WAS19 (4:29) M.Brunell pass incomplete to S.Moss.
4-11-WAS19 (4:24) D.Frost punts 42 yards to ARZ 39, Center-E.Albright. R.Swinton to ARZ 49 for 10 yards (R.Cartwright). Penalty on WAS-M.Sellers, Ineligible Downfield Kick, declined.
PENALTY on ARZ-A.Francisco, Illegal Block Above the Waist, 10 yards, enforced at WAS 49.

[b]Clinton Portis - 2 carries, -1 yard. Total time "sucked": 1 minute, 30 seconds[/b]

Washington Redskins at 01:59
1-10-WAS28 (1:59) M.Brunell pass to R.Royal to WAS 46 for 18 yards (J.Darling).
1-10-WAS46 (1:56) C.Portis up the middle to WAS 49 for 3 yards (A.Wilson).
2-7-WAS49 (1:52) C.Portis right end to 50 for 1 yard (R.Kolodziej).
3-6-50 (1:47) C.Portis up the middle to ARZ 43 for 7 yards (J.Darling, O.Huff).

[b]Clinton Portis - 3 carries, 11 yards.[/b] On this drive, it was the first time since week one when the Skins fed the ball to Portis, with the lead in hand, and he got the yardage necessary to seal the win. However, the statistics say that Portis, until that final 7-yard run on third and 6, is not and has not been the right running back to finish out games and "suck" time off the clock. If anyone thinks that the "heroics" Portis gave us against the inept Cardinals will be enough against the Cowboys or Giants, they're in for a serious letdown.[/QUOTE]

Is it that you hate to see another Clinton running D.C., because you know a man can't live off Bush alone :hater:

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Hate the game not the player.

Redskins win 17-13. In business its all about the bottom line. Portis went 26 for 105 with almost 1200 yds on the season. Redskins rank 7th in the league and 4th in the NFC in rushing yards prior to Sundays game.

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Clinton and the ground game have been pretty dominate since the Tampa game when called upon to do so. Love that we are hitting the corners more, but still do not like that bunch formation with no recievers and running right up the middle. We have had a lot of success outside of that play, I was crushed when we did that for the two plays right before Clinton got the 1st out of what if I remember on what could have been a passing down spread the D a little and got the push.

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[QUOTE=illdefined]you didn't include the time on that last drive. i'm curious to know since i'd like to add it to the HALF QUARTER you just stated he "sucked", with the team ahead like you said, and every defender dedicated to stopping him.[/QUOTE]

1:49 on the last drive, 9:18 total on 4 drives.

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I definitely almost got chub after our line and Portis basically was like, "Bitch, please!" to the Cardinals defensive line on that last push. Amazing.

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This was all done against the Cards (maybe they worst organization & team in NFL history) so any notion that this was some amazing all-pro performance are kidding themselves. It was a good performance against a sorry team, nothing more, nothing less. Based on how the Skins played these last 2 weeks vs 2 of the worst teams in the league I see no reason to believe they can win vs Dallas and NY. They just dont score enough points.

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If Portis can get in the end zone a couple more times, I think he can make the Pro Bowl.

He's certainly the MVP of the season so far.

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Gibbs has shown faith in Portis and Portis has come through. I lot of credit has to go to the Hogs up front. They are doing a great job blowing open holes for the running backs. Nothing would be sweeter than seeing it all come together next week against the Girls. A flawless game with no turnovers, the offensive line dominating and Portis and company trucking the Girls, Santana Moss toasting Roy Williams, Arrington and Taylor 1-2ing Bledsoe. I would be in Hog Heaven.

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[QUOTE=irish]This was all done against the Cards (maybe they worst organization & team in NFL history) so any notion that this was some amazing all-pro performance are kidding themselves. It was a good performance against a sorry team, nothing more, nothing less. Based on how the Skins played these last 2 weeks vs 2 of the worst teams in the league I see no reason to believe they can win vs Dallas and NY. They just dont score enough points.[/QUOTE]

if so, then the problem is alot bigger than Portis.

the point is, for the Redskins good or bad, Clinton Portis has been a bright spot for this offense. we don't lose games because of him, but he helps win the games we do win. maybe he's not the Barry Sanders people here expected him to be (The Lions lost most of their games in spite of Barry too) but he's unquestionably one of the positives on this team. hardly a negative.

:pimp:

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[QUOTE=illdefined]if so, then the problem is alot bigger than Portis.

the point is, for the Redskins good or bad, Clinton Portis has been a bright spot for this offense. we don't lose games because of him, but he helps win the games we do win. maybe he's not the Barry Sanders people here expected him to be (The Lions lost most of their games in spite of Barry too) but he's unquestionably one of the positives on this team. hardly a negative.

:pimp:[/QUOTE]

I agree that CP has been a bright spot in an otherwise lackluster offense. He wont lose games for the skins but he wont make those 2 amazing TD runs that win games either. He's a good back in a bad offense but not the homerun hitter the team thought they were getting.

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I would really love to see more running plays down the sidelines with Sellers leading MORE often. Or even up the middle with Sellers poundin in front of Portis. This really needs to be in more of our running plays.

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[QUOTE=JDESKIN]I would really love to see more running plays down the sidelines with Sellers leading MORE often. Or even up the middle with Sellers poundin in front of Portis. This really needs to be in more of our running plays.[/QUOTE]

you said it. Portis does his best with a fullback blocking for him (like his days in Denver) because he reacts so well after that initial block. Portis has vision and ability, not size (though no one can question his toughness). take a look at the offensive clip and you'll see all his best runs have Sellers clearing the way.

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Irish, I agree totally. Rams and Cards are the worst defenses in the league. I will believe we are this new team committed to running the ball "skins style" when we do it against teams that have something to play for. Like Dallas, NY, and even Philly, though philly is playing for nothing, they have alot of heart and dont quit, like the rams and cards. I do think there will be more plays of CP geared to running outside, but you cant run outside if you dont make teams respect your inside running game. Like the play action pass, teams have to respect different parts of you offensive attack for other parts to work. I read that Portis actually likes running inside alot. With that said, he needs to do better at letting holes develop rather than running over top of the blockers. By the way, were was Rock yesterday? Betts is healthy so Rock is relegated back to #3. The guy ran like a mad man last week and we cant atleast give him a few touches? HMMMM... thats questionable. I was looking forward to seeing him run again.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Irish, I agree totally. Rams and Cards are the worst defenses in the league. I will believe we are this new team committed to running the ball "skins style" when we do it against teams that have something to play for. Like Dallas, NY, and even Philly, though philly is playing for nothing, they have alot of heart and dont quit, like the rams and cards.[/QUOTE]

that's fair to say. guess we'll know exactly that soon enough.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]Irish, I agree totally. Rams and Cards are the worst defenses in the league. I will believe we are this new team committed to running the ball "skins style" when we do it against teams that have something to play for. Like Dallas, NY, and even Philly, though philly is playing for nothing, they have alot of heart and dont quit, like the rams and cards. I do think there will be more plays of CP geared to running outside, but you cant run outside if you dont make teams respect your inside running game. Like the play action pass, teams have to respect different parts of you offensive attack for other parts to work. I read that Portis actually likes running inside alot. With that said, he needs to do better at letting holes develop rather than running over top of the blockers. By the way, were was Rock yesterday? Betts is healthy so Rock is relegated back to #3. The guy ran like a mad man last week and we cant atleast give him a few touches? HMMMM... thats questionable. I was looking forward to seeing him run again.[/QUOTE]

When you say you agree with Irish, I assume you mean that Portis' performance against the Rams is mitigated by the fact that the Rams defense is awful (you didn't quote, so it's hard to tell). If so, why does Portis' performance get an asterisk, yet Rock deserves to get more touches as a result of his performance against a bad team? Is it just because we played another bad defense in Arizona?

I do agree that the running attack needs internal balance, though. We have to shake it up a bit and make opposing defenses respect the edges to give up the inside and vice versa. Otherwise there is nothing to exploit.

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You would expect Portis to dominate a defense like the Rams or Cards. On the other hand it was nice to see Rock get some PT and produce. I am not saying Portis is a good back against bad teams and so so against good teams, let me get that out of the way. He did what he should have done. That being said, I would like to see the team as dedicated to the run vs. teams like Dallas and NY and see what type of game he has. All too often we drop the running game and Portis isn't much of a factor later in games, like the Raiders and San Diego. Didn't you think that Rocks performance against the Rams should have earned some carrys here and there against the Cards?

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[b]#56fanatic:[/b] Fair enough about Portis.

I don't think Rock's performance was sufficient to get him carries against the Cards, because we need a #2 back, not RB by committee. Betts is (IMO) our best #2 back option. I agree, Rock did well against the Rams, but I think Betts would have broken 100 yards as well. I don't think Rock is the answer for our last three games, so I agree with Gibbs putting him back in reserve. Betts needed the carries to get back in the flow of the game after missing the week before.

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Portis ran it up on one of the best run D's in the league Tampa bay. Since that game they have had there way if they wanted to against opposing D's whether it be a a mediocre Defense. All backs throughout the NFL play weak defenses, but no one questions there ability and that it was against a weak Defense. The only thing I think we need to figure out is who to have in the backfield with that bunch formation and diving into the line for a max two yard gain, but mainly 1 or less. We have been successful with pulling and hitting the corners, but when we bunch and go straight up blocking either Portis is not the guy for that or the O line is not capable of getting the push. I think that may have worked in the 80's and 90's, but the D line's are huge as well as the LB's and defenses in general. Very difficult to get that push with straight up blocking, because most Defenses hit low and bunch it up no movement. It is awesome watching Jansen, Sellers, Randy Thomas, and Cooley leading around the edge on a pull pancaking bitches. The problem it probably wears the line down with the extra running if you continue to do it. Like last year we saw improvements and change in our game, which is a good thing. Penalties have been down, but turnovers/4th quarter let downs have haunted us. The past two weeks we have come out in the second half and scored the bulk of our points and kept drives alive. Nothing stellar just better football for a team that seemed to give these games away even to mediocre teams.
Dallas and Giants are not playing much better than us, so please stop the comparison and say we can't beat a team like Dallas or the Giants that are quality teams.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]I would like to see the team as dedicated to the run vs. teams like Dallas and NY and see what type of game he has. All too often we drop the running game and Portis isn't much of a factor later in games, like the Raiders and San Diego. Didn't you think that Rocks performance against the Rams should have earned some carrys here and there against the Cards?[/QUOTE]

i would like to see that too, but how much of that is playcalling? Gibbs admits himself he got discouraged too quick (probably too encouraged by the success of Moss and Cooley) and gave up on the run early in those games just like you said. he himself acknowledged that against good defenses, you have to stay dedicated to the running game as was reflected by San Diego themselves.

we had everyone's favorite back LT pretty much bottled up early on in that game, but you'd expect that from a good defense. only after repeated attempts softening up the defense did LT start getting those big runs, and that's exactly what we have to do.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets][b]#56fanatic:[/b] Fair enough about Portis.

I don't think Rock's performance was sufficient to get him carries against the Cards, because we need a #2 back, not RB by committee. Betts is (IMO) our best #2 back option. I agree, Rock did well against the Rams, but I think Betts would have broken 100 yards as well. I don't think Rock is the answer for our last three games, so I agree with Gibbs putting him back in reserve. Betts needed the carries to get back in the flow of the game after missing the week before.[/QUOTE]

In no way am I suggesting Rock should be placed infront of Betts as the #2 guy. I am just saying as a change of pace to bring him in. Betts is definately the #2 guy. But I guess it is probably a good problem to have with 3 guys capable of making good runs. Rock has worked so hard for this staff. If you remember he was listed as one of the guys that was going to be cut because the team didn't carry a true fullback, which is what he was listed as before. And with all the H-back Gibbs is carrying is was very difficult for them to carry him. Rock has dropped weight, worked like hell on special teams. He is just one of those guys every team has that you just find yourself rooting for. He may not be a great player, but just a fan favorite in terms of his work ethic and passion.

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[QUOTE=onlydarksets]When you say you agree with Irish, I assume you mean that Portis' performance against the Rams is mitigated by the fact that the Rams defense is awful (you didn't quote, so it's hard to tell). If so, why does Portis' performance get an asterisk, yet Rock deserves to get more touches as a result of his performance against a bad team? Is it just because we played another bad defense in Arizona?[/QUOTE]

Great point.

Rock is a hero for running it up against a bad defense, yet Portis can't seem to earn any respect with some folks.

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[QUOTE=#56fanatic]In no way am I suggesting Rock should be placed infront of Betts as the #2 guy. I am just saying as a change of pace to bring him in. Betts is definately the #2 guy. But I guess it is probably a good problem to have with 3 guys capable of making good runs. Rock has worked so hard for this staff. If you remember he was listed as one of the guys that was going to be cut because the team didn't carry a true fullback, which is what he was listed as before. And with all the H-back Gibbs is carrying is was very difficult for them to carry him. Rock has dropped weight, worked like hell on special teams. He is just one of those guys every team has that you just find yourself rooting for. He may not be a great player, but just a fan favorite in terms of his work ethic and passion.[/QUOTE]

Trying to get significant touches for 3 RB's is awfully tough in this league.

Between CP and Betts they accounted for 31 carries. It's tough to squeeze Rock in there when your big two have that many.

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Rock had over 100 on NINE carries. I doubt Betts would have produced like that.

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[QUOTE=skindogger47]Rock had over 100 on NINE carries. I doubt Betts would have produced like that.[/QUOTE]

Rock did well, but the stats you just quoted should tell you his performance was an aberration. Nobody consistently gains that kind of YPC.