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Originally Posted by firstdown
They also know what they are choosing to do and accept the pay for what they are doing. BTW firemen and nurses do pretty good in my area and firemen can retire at around 50. I'd also add teacher do not do too bad for themself. I guess you also know if a teacher gets their Masters Degree they receive a higher pay.
So you think its totally out of line to ask firefighters police and teachers to pay 5% of their pension (it is money they are putting away for THEIR retirement) and 12% of their health ins?
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Yes I do,what do you consider "not too bad"?Lets say the mayor ...Town counsel ...whomever... get voted out for some reason now the new people are in and want a new town pool or golf course....we'll just take from the firemen or Police oh yeah the education budget....what is to protect them from this,the fat govenor of NJ is already trying this so I ask you how do you protect these people.How do you make it attractive to the next CEO of Walmart or Apple etc .....the wages and pay must be competitive to keep good people.....same with Fire ,Police,Teachers and Nurses(EMS)
You said teachers with a masters get higher pay,first they must get hired and fall into a pay scale then they have to pay for the masters while also takeing certification courses that take up any free time you might have ...oh yeah they have to pay for them themselves and all this not knowing if they have a job becuase the fat governor just shut 15 more schools becuase of the state budget .