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Old 04-06-2006, 12:10 PM   #1
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Taylor should take deal

If read recently that Sean Taylor has been offered a plea deal to a felony charge and no jail time. If that's the case, he needs to take it. His attorney's number 1 goal should be to keep his client out of jail, if that means pleading to a felony, so be it.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:14 PM   #2
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Wrong. Here's why.... If they didnt accept the plea, then they are absolutely 100% percent confident they are ready to take on the case. If they didnt have a case then they would have taken the plea deal. Bruise Bros. will be in business for 2006 season.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:17 PM   #3
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Wrong. Here's why, you absolutely cannot predict what a jury will do, no way, no how. He may have a strong case, but as the old saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #4
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I agree that you can't predict what a jury will do, but why put a felony on your record? I'm pretty confident that he won't be going to jail.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:22 PM   #5
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I agree that you can't predict what a jury will do, but why put a felony on your record? I'm pretty confident that he won't be going to jail.
The question is, why not put a felony on his record? What does the kid lose? He's a millionaire, so what if he can't vote or own a gun, hell, he'd be better off not owning a gun with his temperment. If he was an average joe, then maybe, but what is the downside to accepting the plea?
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:24 PM   #6
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Dont forget that any felony plea still gets him suspended by the NFL for 4 games.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:25 PM   #7
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The question is, why not put a felony on his record? What does the kid lose? He's a millionaire, so what if he can't vote or own a gun, hell, he'd be better off not owning a gun with his temperment. If he was an average joe, then maybe, but what is the downside to accepting the plea?
It depends on how you look at it. Maybe he knows there's no way he will get convicted. I'm not really sure, but I think it's a stand that shows maybe he was taught not to admit to something you didn't do.

I'm not sure exactly why he wouldn't, but if he doesn't want to admit to having committed a felony, I respect him for that. I just hope it works out.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:45 PM   #8
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The question is, why not put a felony on his record? What does the kid lose? He's a millionaire, so what if he can't vote or own a gun, hell, he'd be better off not owning a gun with his temperment. If he was an average joe, then maybe, but what is the downside to accepting the plea?
What do you mean with his temperment he shouldn't be owning a gun. I'm curious, what is Sean's temperment?

As far as a convicted felon not being able to vote, I think it really depends on the state.
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:00 PM   #9
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What do you mean with his temperment he shouldn't be owning a gun. I'm curious, what is Sean's temperment?

As far as a convicted felon not being able to vote, I think it really depends on the state.
Let's be honest, Taylor is a great player, but he has a temper. Look at his personal fouls over the past 2 years. On the other issue, I do know that its a federal law regarding gun ownership and right to vote, not a state one.
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:43 PM   #10
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The question is, why not put a felony on his record? What does the kid lose? He's a millionaire, so what if he can't vote or own a gun, hell, he'd be better off not owning a gun with his temperment. If he was an average joe, then maybe, but what is the downside to accepting the plea?
I think the thing that stuns me most about your response is how cavalier it is. Setting aside his temper on the field (spitting is nowhere near a felony), Taylor strikes me as somewhat of a stand up guy with a lot of pride. His dad is a police officer and Taylor studied Criminology in college. He has a lot more at stake than just a "mark on the record." He has to live with himself.

Having a felony criminal record is pretty significant. While Taylor may "have his millions", he might want to do something with his life after football. He might even want to be a police detective and follow his dad or he might want to start a business. I doubt he'll just sit around and get fat. But in the 'real world', that felony record becomes significant. Police officer with a felony gun charge? Not likely. Business line of credit with a felony gun charge? Nothing reputable will work there either.

If Taylor's legal team believes they can beat this charge, they should make that effort. I do not condone Sean's response of personally going after the guys who stole his ATV, but the truth is, I might have done the same. Both of us should likely have called the police in that situation.

If you really believe that having a felony on your record is no big deal, just talk to all the guys who grew up and realized that it is a serious deal.
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:26 PM   #11
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I think the thing that stuns me most about your response is how cavalier it is. Setting aside his temper on the field (spitting is nowhere near a felony), Taylor strikes me as somewhat of a stand up guy with a lot of pride. His dad is a police officer and Taylor studied Criminology in college. He has a lot more at stake than just a "mark on the record." He has to live with himself.

Having a felony criminal record is pretty significant. While Taylor may "have his millions", he might want to do something with his life after football. He might even want to be a police detective and follow his dad or he might want to start a business. I doubt he'll just sit around and get fat. But in the 'real world', that felony record becomes significant. Police officer with a felony gun charge? Not likely. Business line of credit with a felony gun charge? Nothing reputable will work there either.

If Taylor's legal team believes they can beat this charge, they should make that effort. I do not condone Sean's response of personally going after the guys who stole his ATV, but the truth is, I might have done the same. Both of us should likely have called the police in that situation.

If you really believe that having a felony on your record is no big deal, just talk to all the guys who grew up and realized that it is a serious deal.
Yeah, its really affected Martha Stewart. C'mon, you do not risk it. If he gets convicted he's looking at a minimum of 3 years, and no one is going to sign him to a NFL contract when he's been out of the league for 3 years! From a financial standpoint he'd be dumb not to take the deal. He's one of the best safeties in football and he will make another BIG payday before he retires.
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Old 04-06-2006, 05:44 PM   #12
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I think the thing that stuns me most about your response is how cavalier it is. Setting aside his temper on the field (spitting is nowhere near a felony), Taylor strikes me as somewhat of a stand up guy with a lot of pride. His dad is a police officer and Taylor studied Criminology in college. He has a lot more at stake than just a "mark on the record." He has to live with himself.

Having a felony criminal record is pretty significant. While Taylor may "have his millions", he might want to do something with his life after football. He might even want to be a police detective and follow his dad or he might want to start a business. I doubt he'll just sit around and get fat. But in the 'real world', that felony record becomes significant. Police officer with a felony gun charge? Not likely. Business line of credit with a felony gun charge? Nothing reputable will work there either.

If Taylor's legal team believes they can beat this charge, they should make that effort. I do not condone Sean's response of personally going after the guys who stole his ATV, but the truth is, I might have done the same. Both of us should likely have called the police in that situation.

If you really believe that having a felony on your record is no big deal, just talk to all the guys who grew up and realized that it is a serious deal.
I completely agree.. To suggest he should take a plea to a felony just so he can play for your favorite team is beyond selfish..

What happens if he takes a plea and suffers a career ending injury?? He'd be a 23 year old convicted felon who can't get a job in a whole bunch of industries because of that, can't vote in a presidential election, can't get lines of credit, etc. Not worth it!
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:19 PM   #13
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Re: Taylor should take deal

Simple math:

3 x Felony = 3 strike rule
3 Strike rule = Life sentence
Life sentence > Redskins
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:25 PM   #14
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Why cop to something you didn't do?
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:25 PM   #15
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A friend of mine once faced a similar predicament. Accept a plea and get like 6 months in jail plus one year probation or something like that. There were so many mistakes by the prosecution that he was convinced by his lawyer not to accept the plea that he would be fine.

He was wrong. He's serving 8 years now with 7 years probation. Of course, the difference is you can dispute a lot of the things that my friend did. Sean Taylor-I know nothing about what really happened.
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