Taylor was he the wrong pick?

RedskinPete · 07-18-2004, 11:51 AM

What is it with this guy? He has not been in a NFL game and he could already be fined by the NFL! I have to say this is starting to not look good at all!!! It is not like the signs were not there before the draft! Showing up out of shape when teams wanted a look see before the draft. I have to say he really didn't seem to be happy to be a Redskin when drafted!!!! Throw in other things like skipping several voluntary organized team activities dose this guy wanted to be here? I know we all had this debate but Winslow as I see it wants to play football and wanted to be a REDSKIN! What is it about a guy that is going to make a boat load of money that can't get his stuff moved and miss a weekend of meetings? Not like he didn't know when the meeting were or when he need to move out of his place. Is this the same guy that is going to remember what to do on the field this fall or when the plane leaves for a road game or even when he should be at RedskinPark? This is starting to look real bad!

Bergman14 · 07-18-2004, 02:11 PM

I think he has had a run of bad luck, and that this all is a little blown out of proportion. I do admit I am nervous, but we got to wait and see what he can do on the field before we pass judgment.

Paintrain · 07-19-2004, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bergman14

I think he has had a run of bad luck, and that this all is a little blown out of proportion. I do admit I am nervous, but we got to wait and see what he can do on the field before we pass judgment.

I don't think his follies thusfar can be attributed to "bad luck", maybe bad decisions, but not bad luck.. Luck is something you can't control.. Firing your agent and not picking one yet (WTF?), putting yourself in position to get evicted and having to leave a league mandated meeting, those are results of decisions.. Here's a possible thought (one that I hope isn't true of course), maybe he's one of those people who are great at something, but don't particularly like doing it.. He may be overwhelmed at, geez, this is what I am going to be doing for the next 8-12 years and he's hesitant at diving in.. All that said, I'm ready to give him a clean slate when he gets to camp and starts hitting, but he needs to get on point quickly..

memphisskin · 07-19-2004, 10:56 AM

Taylor's problems seem to be more life skills than football or anything the Wonderlic was even designed to detect. Who knows where this guy's head is, but I thought he was excited to be a Redskin. I know he didn't campaign for us like K2, but I think the biggest thrill for most of these guys is to be in the NFL.

I also don't remember him missing too many of the voluntary sessions or hearing about anything like that, but I wasn't there so who knows. I do remember him not complaining about his number, switching to 36 and preferring to take Ohalete's job instead of his number.

I think all of this is much ado about nothing. If the kid wants to play in the NFL, then he'll sign with an agent and get his butt in camp. I mean how hard is it, you sign with an agent and then collect your 12-14 million dollar signing bonus. I don't know what he's doing, maybe we should send Skinsncanes down there to find out what is really going on with the kid. I want to see him in camp because I think he will really upgrade our defense and the more time he misses then the less impact he'll make this year.

NFLNetwork · 07-18-2004, 03:03 PM

He was the right choice....Bergman is right, he's just had a string of bad luck. We've all had a bunch of bad things happen at once sometimes. Maybe the appartment thing could've been avoided, but there's nothing you can do about the past. I think we all should give the guy a chance (as in more than 3 months) to develope our opions on taylor.

BossHog · 07-18-2004, 04:07 PM

Not to worry. This is all new to him. However, the game of football isn't.

jthor99 · 07-18-2004, 04:15 PM

i couldn't disagree with you more redskinpete. He's made one mistake...Big deal he was absoutley the right choice for this organization. Im sure you were 21 years old once he'll get more mature as the season goes on. If we would have chose Winslow we would proably would have to deal with a holdout from him i really feel that Taylor will get an agent and sign a deal and hell have a good rookie season no need to worry.

offiss · 07-18-2004, 04:16 PM

Well his wonderlic score was as low as it get's, something tell's me the only thing he get's right, is on the football field.

That Guy · 07-18-2004, 04:20 PM

i'm nervous, but not an alarmist yet... i'm still waiting to see how it pans out. Hopefully he can get it together, if so, i'll gladly forget everything that's happened... he's not sleeping with 15 year olds or bar fighting, so they're really just minor offenses.

Daseal · 07-18-2004, 06:19 PM

You know what Marino and Elway had horrible Wonderlic scores too, you going to send them packing? Doubt it.

He's made some mistakes, he's probably SLIGHTLY OVERWHELMED. Give him some time to settle in. He'll sign by the first week of camp and we'll forget about this while he gives Quincy Carter a concussion.

SmootSmack · 07-18-2004, 06:27 PM

Yeah and Favre had a terrible Wonderlic score as well. And Brian "I tripped over my dog" Griese had one of the highest ever.

My prediction, HOF game halftime show, Al Michaels sits down for an interview live via satellite with Sean Taylor, "who just signed with the Redskins earlier today"

offiss · 07-19-2004, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

You know what Marino and Elway had horrible Wonderlic scores too, you going to send them packing? Doubt it.

He's made some mistakes, he's probably SLIGHTLY OVERWHELMED. Give him some time to settle in. He'll sign by the first week of camp and we'll forget about this while he gives Quincy Carter a concussion.

who said we should send him packing?

burgundyandgold · 07-19-2004, 07:54 PM

he's from Miami, what did you expect?

skin4Life28 · 07-18-2004, 07:59 PM

LoL! Smootsmack, now that you say that I can see it happening. He would miss bout a week of camp. I am not worried bout Sean at all. He will be an absolute stud for our team, for a long time. And before you know it we will all be saying " Mr. Taylor, Mr. Taylor, can I get your autograph."

sportscurmudgeon · 07-18-2004, 11:07 PM

The Wonderlic test score is not a qualifier or a disqualifier all by itself; it is merely one piece of data. Some great QBs have had less than wonderful scores. Some bad ones have had high scores. But just in case you all think that it is meaningless, Akili Smith had a reported Wonderlic score below Taylor's reported score and look what happened to him. Similarly, Ryan Leaf was a low scorer. (BTW, I don't recall seeing John Elway's name on the low scoring QB list, but I don't pretend to have the list memorized.)

The Wonderlic purports to measure how quickly and how thoroughly a person can learn new things. Obviously, no test can give you an absolute and definitive measure of that. If one could, no college would ever accept a student who eventually flunked out. But don't be too quick to dismiss it entirely.

The SATs are hardly perfect predictors either. But, when you read that someone has taken the SATs 5 times and has yet to score over 700, you can be pretty sure that neurosurgery is not going to be his life's work...

07-18-2004, 11:51 AM	#1
RedskinPete The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Camino,Ca Posts: 1,174	Taylor was he the wrong pick? What is it with this guy? He has not been in a NFL game and he could already be fined by the NFL! I have to say this is starting to not look good at all!!! It is not like the signs were not there before the draft! Showing up out of shape when teams wanted a look see before the draft. I have to say he really didn't seem to be happy to be a Redskin when drafted!!!! Throw in other things like skipping several voluntary organized team activities dose this guy wanted to be here? I know we all had this debate but Winslow as I see it wants to play football and wanted to be a REDSKIN! What is it about a guy that is going to make a boat load of money that can't get his stuff moved and miss a weekend of meetings? Not like he didn't know when the meeting were or when he need to move out of his place. Is this the same guy that is going to remember what to do on the field this fall or when the plane leaves for a road game or even when he should be at RedskinPark? This is starting to look real bad!

07-18-2004, 06:27 PM	#11
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Yeah and Favre had a terrible Wonderlic score as well. And Brian "I tripped over my dog" Griese had one of the highest ever. My prediction, HOF game halftime show, Al Michaels sits down for an interview live via satellite with Sean Taylor, "who just signed with the Redskins earlier today" __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-18-2004, 02:11 PM	#2
Bergman14 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Winston-Salem Age: 41 Posts: 138	I think he has had a run of bad luck, and that this all is a little blown out of proportion. I do admit I am nervous, but we got to wait and see what he can do on the field before we pass judgment.

07-19-2004, 10:56 AM	#4
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	Taylor's problems seem to be more life skills than football or anything the Wonderlic was even designed to detect. Who knows where this guy's head is, but I thought he was excited to be a Redskin. I know he didn't campaign for us like K2, but I think the biggest thrill for most of these guys is to be in the NFL. I also don't remember him missing too many of the voluntary sessions or hearing about anything like that, but I wasn't there so who knows. I do remember him not complaining about his number, switching to 36 and preferring to take Ohalete's job instead of his number. I think all of this is much ado about nothing. If the kid wants to play in the NFL, then he'll sign with an agent and get his butt in camp. I mean how hard is it, you sign with an agent and then collect your 12-14 million dollar signing bonus. I don't know what he's doing, maybe we should send Skinsncanes down there to find out what is really going on with the kid. I want to see him in camp because I think he will really upgrade our defense and the more time he misses then the less impact he'll make this year.

07-18-2004, 03:03 PM	#5
NFLNetwork No new threads for you Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 122	He was the right choice....Bergman is right, he's just had a string of bad luck. We've all had a bunch of bad things happen at once sometimes. Maybe the appartment thing could've been avoided, but there's nothing you can do about the past. I think we all should give the guy a chance (as in more than 3 months) to develope our opions on taylor.

07-18-2004, 04:07 PM	#6
BossHog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 665	Not to worry. This is all new to him. However, the game of football isn't.

07-18-2004, 04:15 PM	#7
jthor99 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 17	i couldn't disagree with you more redskinpete. He's made one mistake...Big deal he was absoutley the right choice for this organization. Im sure you were 21 years old once he'll get more mature as the season goes on. If we would have chose Winslow we would proably would have to deal with a holdout from him i really feel that Taylor will get an agent and sign a deal and hell have a good rookie season no need to worry.

07-18-2004, 04:16 PM	#8
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Well his wonderlic score was as low as it get's, something tell's me the only thing he get's right, is on the football field.

07-18-2004, 04:20 PM	#9
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,574	i'm nervous, but not an alarmist yet... i'm still waiting to see how it pans out. Hopefully he can get it together, if so, i'll gladly forget everything that's happened... he's not sleeping with 15 year olds or bar fighting, so they're really just minor offenses.

07-18-2004, 06:19 PM	#10
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	You know what Marino and Elway had horrible Wonderlic scores too, you going to send them packing? Doubt it. He's made some mistakes, he's probably SLIGHTLY OVERWHELMED. Give him some time to settle in. He'll sign by the first week of camp and we'll forget about this while he gives Quincy Carter a concussion.

07-19-2004, 07:54 PM	#13
burgundyandgold Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 3	he's from Miami, what did you expect?

07-18-2004, 07:59 PM	#14
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	LoL! Smootsmack, now that you say that I can see it happening. He would miss bout a week of camp. I am not worried bout Sean at all. He will be an absolute stud for our team, for a long time. And before you know it we will all be saying " Mr. Taylor, Mr. Taylor, can I get your autograph."

07-18-2004, 11:07 PM	#15
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	The Wonderlic test score is not a qualifier or a disqualifier all by itself; it is merely one piece of data. Some great QBs have had less than wonderful scores. Some bad ones have had high scores. But just in case you all think that it is meaningless, Akili Smith had a reported Wonderlic score below Taylor's reported score and look what happened to him. Similarly, Ryan Leaf was a low scorer. (BTW, I don't recall seeing John Elway's name on the low scoring QB list, but I don't pretend to have the list memorized.) The Wonderlic purports to measure how quickly and how thoroughly a person can learn new things. Obviously, no test can give you an absolute and definitive measure of that. If one could, no college would ever accept a student who eventually flunked out. But don't be too quick to dismiss it entirely. The SATs are hardly perfect predictors either. But, when you read that someone has taken the SATs 5 times and has yet to score over 700, you can be pretty sure that neurosurgery is not going to be his life's work...

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