The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The Redskins did the right thing by letting Garcon and Jackson walk. Look how both fared this year? What they weren't counting on was Pryor and Doc both underperforming.

Agree, if we paid either of them, we would have got rheemed for over paying an aging vet(s).

[sdskinsfan2001]

Cousins got 44 million from us to go 15-16-1 last 2 years now will be getting who knows how much more guaranteed on his next team. He won against us. I'll be rooting against him from here on out.

[MTK]

I’m glad this saga is finally over.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

I’m glad this saga is finally over.

Yep, I said I'd take anything besides Cousins playing here on another 1 year deal, this qualifies. Excited to move on. Welcome to DC Mr. Smith.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I’m glad this saga is finally over.

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

[CRedskinsRule]

What do you know this may well have been the FINAL Cousins thread!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

Agree, sucks but we all knew it was coming

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

[Buffalo Bob]

I just read an article on ESPN that said two years ago the Redskins offered Cousins a deal that averaged $12.5 million a year. I wish Cousins would tell the true story of what really was offered and his thoughts during his tenure in Washington. I would love to read his diary. I am pretty sure Snyder giving RG3 the keys to the city started things poorly right off the bat. Probably a nice long term contract offer would have made amends, but they insulted him again.
While I don't think he is as good as his stat line suggests he still is better than 2/3's of the starting QBs in the NFL.

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What do you know this may well have been the FINAL Cousins thread!

Nope. At some point, we'll have a bad game and a disgruntled Redskins fan will post a "What Could've Been" thread about Cousins that gets shut down very quickly, lol!

[skinsfaninok]

Thanks Kirk for the 3 years but we didn't win jack in those 3. So until this team actually builds a roster right it doesn't matter much anyway

[BaltimoreSkins]

We won the division twice while Kirk was here. What dio you mean we didn't win jack?
Once as a back up yes, but you have to go back to the 90s to find another QB that was part of that.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Kirk was awful on 3rd downs the last 2 years, as we were as a team, this is the big upside. AS is great on 3rd and 4 or 5 because he can move so well.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

We won the division twice while Kirk was here. What dio you mean we didn't win jack?
Once as a back up yes, but you have to go back to the 90s to find another QB that was part of that.

LOL we won 1 time with him as a starter that is all that matters, the 2012 year was a great gimmick yr. And how many playoff wins do we have?? That is all that matters