The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Kirk was awful on 3rd downs the last 2 years, as we were as a team, this is the big upside. AS is great on 3rd and 4 or 5 because he can move so well.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Well said. Maybe Alex Smith will be our version of Tom Brady and still is playing very well by the time he hits 40. We can use the picks in that span to improve the team at our various needs...

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Well said. Maybe Alex Smith will be our version of Tom Brady and still is playing very well by the time he hits 40. We can use the picks in that span to improve the team at our various needs...

I'm seeing all these stats and descriptions of how great Smith is. Yet he didn't look that good when I've seen him, and the Chiefs and their fans are perfectly fine trading him. What gives?

If he was that great, the Chiefs would have kept him.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I'm seeing all these stats and descriptions of how great Smith is. Yet he didn't look that good when I've seen him, and the Chiefs and their fans are perfectly fine trading him. What gives?

If he was that great, the Chiefs would have kept him.

Chiefs have a good young QB waiting in the wings. The Chiefs knew they could get a good deal on Smith .The Redskins knew KC didn't want to stay and sure is not worth 34 million a season so this seems like a good deal for all involved.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I'm seeing all these stats and descriptions of how great Smith is. Yet he didn't look that good when I've seen him, and the Chiefs and their fans are perfectly fine trading him. What gives?

If he was that great, the Chiefs would have kept him.

Did u see him on MNF against us this yr? The last drive says it all, when they NEEDED a play AS rolled away from pressure and threw a laser to #12 forget his name but I can see that play in my head as I type this. Also he killed us scrambling. Sometimes it's not always about the 300 yards passing games and 3 tds.. He makes plays when it counts

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I'm seeing all these stats and descriptions of how great Smith is. Yet he didn't look that good when I've seen him, and the Chiefs and their fans are perfectly fine trading him. What gives?

If he was that great, the Chiefs would have kept him.

He made the Pro Bowl, homie.