Coronavirus (sports edition) thread

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Oh guys... you do seem to love a good pissing contest for no apparent reason.



I never said it was the flu, I simply used the flu as an analogy with regard to the likelihood that the vaccine for COVID will have to be changed periodically...so maybe fuck you...and get back to some reading comprehension.




You can lay out all the statistics you want. I never said it was more or less likely to mutate - only that it will. The bottom line is that all viruses, including coronaviruses, can change over time, and we'll have to continue to adapt in order to manage the mutations.

Y'all want to follow the science, but only the science that fits your narrative.

Again, I'm not a vaccine denier or pusher, anti-vax or pro-vax... You guys are obviously pro-vax and fuck everyone else. That's awesome! You do you!

Anyway, here are a hand full of articles about the mutation of coronaviruses (spoiler alert - viruses will mutate, sometimes despite the creation of vaccines created to treat them).

https://theconversation.com/how-the-...ovid-19-154499

https://www.unitypoint.org/article.a...e-1317a3396dd8

"The creation of a vaccine for any new virus could also cause additional mutations."

https://www.osfhealthcare.org/blog/h...ects-vaccines/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/coronavirus-strains#1

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/09/96570...vid-19-mutants

Brother if you're not quoting scientific peer reviewed journals for your science information, you're going to the wrong sources.

"Articles" are not where you should be looking for scientific information.

The one piece you said that made any sense was that the introduction of vaccines can result in mutations of the virus. True - it's like whack-a-mole, beat one variant down with a vaccine, and another will emerge.

The part you're missing though is that variants will also emerge through random mutation, the chances for which increase as the number of infected rise.

I think you're just beyond help with this though. It's not because you're not intelligent enough to understand it, it's because you're too dumb to understand that there's a lot you don't know. Good luck to you, I hope you survive when you come across Delta.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Brother if you're not quoting scientific peer reviewed journals for your science information, you're going to the wrong sources.

"Articles" are not where you should be looking for scientific information.

The one piece you said that made any sense was that the introduction of vaccines can result in mutations of the virus. True - it's like whack-a-mole, beat one variant down with a vaccine, and another will emerge.

The part you're missing though is that variants will also emerge through random mutation, the chances for which increase as the number of infected rise.

I think you're just beyond help with this though. It's not because you're not intelligent enough to understand it, it's because you're too dumb to understand that there's a lot you don't know. Good luck to you, I hope you survive when you come across Delta.

I don't need any help man. Apparently you do though. And let's be honest, there's a lot we all don't know - you included. Maybe when (if) you come to that realization, you won't come off as being so obnoxious and petulant.

Like I said, I was only pointing out that the virus will mutate. I didn't specify how, when, or why. If you want to break it down further than I chose to, that's great, have at it. But don't discount what I said by simply expanding on my point.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Fuck COVID! Fuck Mutations!! Fuck the Dallas Cowboys!!!

This thread needs to be sent to the deepest pits of hell. What a disaster this thing has mutated into.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I don't need any help man. Apparently you do though. And let's be honest, there's a lot we all don't know - you included. Maybe when (if) you come to that realization, you won't come off as being so obnoxious and petulant.

Like I said, I was only pointing out that the virus will mutate. I didn't specify how, when, or why. If you want to break it down further than I chose to, that's great, have at it. But don't discount what I said by simply expanding on my point.

I work daily with the physician chairs and chiefs of one of the academic medical centers that sees the most severe COVID patients in the northeast.

I can quite comfortably say you don't know jack, and quite confidently say that nobody should ever listen to you on this subject, if they value their lives and the lives of their loved ones. You need all the help. All of it. Poster child for Dunning Kruger.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I work daily with the physician chairs and chiefs of one of the academic medical centers that sees the most severe COVID patients in the northeast.

I can quite comfortably say you don't know jack, and quite confidently say that nobody should ever listen to you on this subject, if they value their lives and the lives of their loved ones. You need all the help. All of it. Poster child for Dunning Kruger.

Good for you, but just because you carry their charts doesn't make you an expert in anything except maybe manual dexterity.

Say what you want, but you don't know jack shit about me. Your comments and responses are so impetuous - you can't even grasp the fact that I never claimed to be an expert - nor did I ever provide any advice about COVID that anyone on here should follow.

So why don't you get off your high horse that you have no business being on, and get back to posting some salary cap numbers - something you are actually somewhat useful for.

[CRedskinsRule]

LOCK IT UP! Can we move the covid talk back off this page?

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[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Good for you, but just because you carry their charts doesn't make you an expert in anything except maybe manual dexterity.

Say what you want, but you don't know jack shit about me. Your comments and responses are so impetuous - you can't even grasp the fact that I never claimed to be an expert - nor did I ever provide any advice about COVID that anyone on here should follow.

So why don't you get off your high horse that you have no business being on, and get back to posting some salary cap numbers - something you are actually somewhat useful for.

If salary cap numbers will make you stop posting about COVID vaccines, I will gladly do it, because every post you put out there spreads misinformation and hurts people.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

LOCK IT UP! Can we move the covid talk back off this page?

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Haha good one CRed. They're so cute when they're so young and hopeful.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If salary cap numbers will make you stop posting about COVID vaccines, I will gladly do it, because every post you put out there spreads misinformation and hurts people.

Oh yeah, maybe you should provide an example of all the misinformation I have been spreading.

Maybe you have me confused with someone else, because I have been pretty consistent with my message:

Get the vaccine if you want it. Listen to your doctor. Do your research. Evaluate your situation and make your own decision. Masks have been shown to be effective. Viruses mutate. You're not as smart as you think you are...

Am I missing anything?

[EdmundDorf]

Maybe you should have just left it as

"Listen to your Doctor" radical idea these days but everything else is irrelevant

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Punch, I feel like you are overreacting a bit on this one. He didn't say it was the flu, and it wasn't implied either. He said we might be facing a situation where it's similar to the flu in that we have to get a booster shot every year to kill the new variant. But he also didn't say he was opposed to that either. As far as certain people on this board go I don't think Chief is one of these extremists that will go to any length to minimize COVID's impact.

My initial comment about “back to its the flu” was dumb. Wasn’t trying to say that he thought this was the flu. I harkened back to the original misinformation and let it fly.
What I was trying to say was that even comparing the flu vaccine to the covid vaccine is silly because, again, we can live with the flu. Not so much with this virus. How many people get flu shots every year? Not 70 percent of the country’s population Ill tell you that. But we live with it. For the most part, the very most part. This vaccine is beyond necessary to stop this thing in its tracks. I dont know Chief obviously. Wasn’t talking directly at him when i said “fuck you get your shots”. Was talking to the world in general. This isn’t politics, or team names, or favorite movies we are discussing. This is life and fucking death. I won’t sit back and let people post misinformation. Sorry. Fact is that the vaccine is our only defense if we want to stop social distancing and wearing masks, etc, and we are running out of time. His statement about …well its gonna mutate so learn to live with it is fuckin garbage. Sorry. Get your shots. Do your part. There is no science whatsoever that backs up his “the vaccine isn’t right for everyone “
That is misinformation.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Oh yeah, maybe you should provide an example of all the misinformation I have been spreading.

Maybe you have me confused with someone else, because I have been pretty consistent with my message:

Get the vaccine if you want it. Listen to your doctor. Do your research. Evaluate your situation and make your own decision. Masks have been shown to be effective. Viruses mutate. You're not as smart as you think you are...

Am I missing anything?

Get the vaccine if you want it? Sorry man that’s garbage. Nobody woke up 18 months ago like “man i really want a new vaccine “.

What you are saying is the same thing as telling people use your fire extinguishers if you want to, while the world is burning.

Unvaccinated people are killing us right now and allowing the virus to move from host to host and mutate, and if it gets bad enough there will be no vaccine. You are misinformed . I dont think you are evil. I dont think you are anything other than misinformed. Im sorry if i came across in any other way than concerned for the human race and our way of life. I just cant sit by and listen to you act like this is a “choice”. There is definitively a right and wrong here man. Do your part. Use your fire extinguisher. Put out the fire. I feel like princess leia when she pops out of r2d2 to tell luke he is our only hope. Lol.

[Chief X_Phackter]

For those on here who do not know the definition of misinformation, I'll leave this here for you.

Misinformation: false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive; incorrect or misleading information.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Very relevant right now.

This is an accurate description of how I feel when two posters that I both respect start verbally sparring with each other.

Schneed, only thing I'm gonna say is I feel your efforts would be better used towards (in the interest of toning down the insults) people of sub-par intelligence that still think masks are ineffective and/or encroaching on personal freedom.

That's all I got to say about that.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

For those on here who do not know the definition of misinformation, I'll leave this here for you.

Misinformation: false or inaccurate information, especially that which is deliberately intended to deceive; incorrect or misleading information.

For those on here getting confused about what anyone is trying to say, Ill leave this for you.
There is absolutely no science that says the vaccination is bad. There is all the science in the world that says it is safe and effective.
The only way to stop the virus from mutating into something even deadlier is to get your vaccine.

“Get the vaccine if you want it” and “this virus is going to mutate either way” is one part bad advice, and one part misinformation because it is false and inaccurate, the virus can only mutate if kept alive by the unvaccinated.