How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross?

RedskinRat · 10-02-2006, 03:20 PM

I'm glad someone else caught that, I was beginning to think I'd imagined it....

mredskins · 10-02-2006, 03:25 PM

They could not tell the differnce between Moss, Lloyd, and ARE. It was horrible.

illdefined · 10-02-2006, 03:27 PM

they prolly should not do late games. too close to their bedtime.

ParkerGibbs · 10-02-2006, 04:55 PM

im really suprised no one has mentioned "the fits" yet. if i had to hear those idiots talk one more time about "the fits" on the line. and how you have to fit in the fits, and avoid the fits, and move the fits. please tell me im not the only one that was going crazy as they dragged this topic over almost three quarters!!

ChillWill · 10-02-2006, 05:05 PM

I listened to Sonny, Sam and Michaels and I was disgusted with the engineer of the game. Granted the fan noise was phenomenal but on all 3 Moss touchdowns I could not hear what happened after the catch because of the crowd noise. Also I'd like to have these guys replaced with John Riggins and Doc Walker.

SmootSmack · 10-02-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChillWill

I listened to Sonny, Sam and Michaels and I was disgusted with the engineer of the game. Granted the fan noise was phenomenal but on all 3 Moss touchdowns I could not hear what happened after the catch because of the crowd noise. Also I'd like to have these guys replaced with John Riggins and Doc Walker.

You noticed that too then. Every big play I had no idea what was happening because the crowd noise muffled out the playcalling

JWsleep · 10-02-2006, 05:17 PM

Randy Cross is a putz, Dick is aging, so he needs someone else to help him out. Randy Cross is not that guy.

Is it that hard to find good sportscasters?

724Skinsfan · 10-02-2006, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

You noticed that too then. Every big play I had no idea what was happening because the crowd noise muffled out the playcalling

I wonder if there was something wrong with the mic system because where we were sitting the audio sounded muffled, sort of like Charlie Brown's teacher. A couple of times after the ref finished, we we're like "OK, we'll take your word for it."

70Chip · 10-02-2006, 08:05 PM

Enberg was the top man at NBC for so long that his voice says "big game" for me. I like the emotion that he brings in on big plays. He also did Super Bowl 17 (with Merlin Olsen?) which sticks in my brain. I guess I am getting old, too.

Randy Cross is actually not as bad as he used to be, if you can believe that. Whe he first started it was like being waterboarded. The worst case of ex-jock syndrome in history.

If you look at the games, most of the announcers are terrible, which I find unbelievable when you consider the money involved in NFL broadcasting rights. Joe Buck is good. When he does Redskins games he sounds like he ONLY does Redskins games, which is a tribute to his preparation. He knows all the backups and is hip to all the local chatter surrounding the team. Whe he sees #46 for us he knows its Betts and he is ready to rattle off what his role is and has been, how we use him, etc. Part of that is technology and being of a generation that is used to it. I'm sure Buck is very quick with the laptop. Other than him, it's pretty dismal.

Even Madden gets under my skin these days. If you want an example of an announcer being unobjective, listen to the two Cowboys/Redskins games from this year and last. He was crushed last year when we won. On Santana's second score he just said, "Unbelievable" (in a disappointed way). It was all about the Cowboys losing the game rather than the Redskins making great plays to win it. This year he gave his little spiel about how the Redskins "just aren't very good". He had us dead and buried in week 2. I think he's still a little pissed about that alumni game in 1964.

vaoutlaws2006 · 10-02-2006, 08:08 PM

they redefined bad

Pocket$ $traight · 10-02-2006, 08:10 PM

I was at the game so I didn't have to listen to Cross but he is without a doubt one of the top 3 worst announcers in sports.

dmek25 · 10-02-2006, 08:17 PM

springs old mans name is ron. and cross is horrible, but i can tolerate enberg. and once you go high def, you never go back

hooskins · 10-02-2006, 08:26 PM

Cross is by far the worst annoucer ever. He definately used, boo birds, jitterbug, kickstand, tripod, yeah...the list goes on...

That Guy · 10-02-2006, 09:08 PM

everyone hates every announcer. i generally don't pay attention to them. how much announcing does CBS/Fox need besides the NFL? that's why they suck, there's only 16 days of work and NO ONE tunes in because of the announcers. Micheals is the best ever (miracle on ice, ali, etc etc - he's done EVERYTHING), but beyond that only aikman really comes to mind.

larry micheals is terrible and whoever wanted to hear riggins and doc instead - john riggins is okay, but not great. doc sucks on games (i've heard him do some college stuff).

jaws and dick vermeil are probably the best guys that aren't in a regular rotation. working for espn though, you won't see they very often at all.

Beemnseven · 10-02-2006, 09:21 PM

I was a big fan of Verne Lundquist and Dan Fouts in the early 90's. Mike Patrick and Paul what's his name were good too.

College seems to have great announcers. Herbstreit, Fowler, Brent Musberger are all good. But for some reason announcers in the NFL suck out loud.

10-02-2006, 03:20 PM	#31
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? I'm glad someone else caught that, I was beginning to think I'd imagined it....

10-02-2006, 03:25 PM	#32
mredskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13,208	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? They could not tell the differnce between Moss, Lloyd, and ARE. It was horrible.

10-02-2006, 03:27 PM	#33
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 49 Posts: 2,631	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? they prolly should not do late games. too close to their bedtime. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-02-2006, 04:55 PM	#34
ParkerGibbs Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 61	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? im really suprised no one has mentioned "the fits" yet. if i had to hear those idiots talk one more time about "the fits" on the line. and how you have to fit in the fits, and avoid the fits, and move the fits. please tell me im not the only one that was going crazy as they dragged this topic over almost three quarters!! __________________ *-you keep talking, we'll keep performing*

10-02-2006, 05:05 PM	#35
ChillWill Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2004 Age: 70 Posts: 151	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? I listened to Sonny, Sam and Michaels and I was disgusted with the engineer of the game. Granted the fan noise was phenomenal but on all 3 Moss touchdowns I could not hear what happened after the catch because of the crowd noise. Also I'd like to have these guys replaced with John Riggins and Doc Walker.

10-02-2006, 05:17 PM	#37
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 57 Posts: 4,719	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? Randy Cross is a putz, Dick is aging, so he needs someone else to help him out. Randy Cross is not that guy. Is it that hard to find good sportscasters? __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-02-2006, 08:05 PM	#39
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 55 Posts: 3,048	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? Enberg was the top man at NBC for so long that his voice says "big game" for me. I like the emotion that he brings in on big plays. He also did Super Bowl 17 (with Merlin Olsen?) which sticks in my brain. I guess I am getting old, too. Randy Cross is actually not as bad as he used to be, if you can believe that. Whe he first started it was like being waterboarded. The worst case of ex-jock syndrome in history. If you look at the games, most of the announcers are terrible, which I find unbelievable when you consider the money involved in NFL broadcasting rights. Joe Buck is good. When he does Redskins games he sounds like he ONLY does Redskins games, which is a tribute to his preparation. He knows all the backups and is hip to all the local chatter surrounding the team. Whe he sees #46 for us he knows its Betts and he is ready to rattle off what his role is and has been, how we use him, etc. Part of that is technology and being of a generation that is used to it. I'm sure Buck is very quick with the laptop. Other than him, it's pretty dismal. Even Madden gets under my skin these days. If you want an example of an announcer being unobjective, listen to the two Cowboys/Redskins games from this year and last. He was crushed last year when we won. On Santana's second score he just said, "Unbelievable" (in a disappointed way). It was all about the Cowboys losing the game rather than the Redskins making great plays to win it. This year he gave his little spiel about how the Redskins "just aren't very good". He had us dead and buried in week 2. I think he's still a little pissed about that alumni game in 1964. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

10-02-2006, 08:08 PM	#40
vaoutlaws2006 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fayettenam, NC Age: 53 Posts: 806	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? they redefined bad __________________ The future is obviously right now!

10-02-2006, 08:10 PM	#41
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 49 Posts: 4,261	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? I was at the game so I didn't have to listen to Cross but he is without a doubt one of the top 3 worst announcers in sports.

10-02-2006, 08:17 PM	#42
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 64 Posts: 10,672	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? springs old mans name is ron. and cross is horrible, but i can tolerate enberg. and once you go high def, you never go back __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-02-2006, 08:26 PM	#43
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 38 Posts: 8,606	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? Cross is by far the worst annoucer ever. He definately used, boo birds, jitterbug, kickstand, tripod, yeah...the list goes on... __________________ Vacancy

10-02-2006, 09:08 PM	#44
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? everyone hates every announcer. i generally don't pay attention to them. how much announcing does CBS/Fox need besides the NFL? that's why they suck, there's only 16 days of work and NO ONE tunes in because of the announcers. Micheals is the best ever (miracle on ice, ali, etc etc - he's done EVERYTHING), but beyond that only aikman really comes to mind. larry micheals is terrible and whoever wanted to hear riggins and doc instead - john riggins is okay, but not great. doc sucks on games (i've heard him do some college stuff). jaws and dick vermeil are probably the best guys that aren't in a regular rotation. working for espn though, you won't see they very often at all.

10-02-2006, 09:21 PM	#45
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 51 Posts: 5,311	Re: How bad were Dick Enberg and Randy Cross? I was a big fan of Verne Lundquist and Dan Fouts in the early 90's. Mike Patrick and Paul what's his name were good too. College seems to have great announcers. Herbstreit, Fowler, Brent Musberger are all good. But for some reason announcers in the NFL suck out loud.

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