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[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by MTK

A spike is not a trend. And sorry, the numbers show we are safer now than 4 or 8 years ago. We're not on the brink of collapse like Trump wants you to think.

In the 18 months of the FBI's most recent statistical compilation ( 1/14 - 6/15) the murder rate is up:

~10% in cities with over 1,000,000 population.
~12% in cities between 500K - 999K
~8% in cities of 250K-499K
~17% in cities of less than 10K


but you're probably right, I am certain the last year has reversed that trend.

Deadliest year in Baltimore history ends with 344 homicides - Baltimore Sun

... or, then again, maybe not.

Baltimore is currently at 164 murders - which is on pace to surpass 300 by the end of the year. In all of 2014, the number was 211.
Baltimore Homicides - baltimoresun.com

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

In the 18 months of the FBI's most recent statistical compilation ( 1/14 - 6/15) the murder rate is up:

~10% in cities with over 1,000,000 population.
~12% in cities between 500K - 999K
~8% in cities of 250K-499K
~17% in cities of less than 10K


but you're probably right, I am certain the last year has reversed that trend.

Deadliest year in Baltimore history ends with 344 homicides - Baltimore Sun

... or, then again, maybe not.

Baltimore is currently at 164 murders - which is on pace to surpass 300 by the end of the year. In all of 2014, the number was 211.
Baltimore Homicides - baltimoresun.com

All true...but over the last 20 years crime has dropped. But the pockets of violence remain mostly in liberal dominated cities of Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago with a history of dem policies and poverty pimps within the communities and local governments. Billions of tax dollars have been squandered.

That's why the gun control argument has zero validity...we aren't a crime ridden country, we are just a country who constantly over sensationalize specific events like mass shootings. It's not the availability of guns, buts it's the over coverage of the event.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

All true...but over the last 20 years crime has dropped. But the pockets of violence remain mostly in liberal dominated cities of Philly, Baltimore, Detroit, Cleveland, Chicago with a history of dem policies and poverty pimps within the communities and local governments. Billions of tax dollars have been squandered.

That's why the gun control argument has zero validity...we aren't a crime ridden country, we are just a country who constantly over sensationalize specific events like mass shootings. It's not the availability of guns, buts it's the over coverage of the event.

It would be difficult to imagine...Who, if asked in this world feels safer than they did even a couple years ago....
Certainly nobody in the western world. To many things blowing up...
Check that.....hmmmmm, maybe like in Syria? THEY might feel safer? All their top shelf terrorists are probably committed in other parts of the world...blowing them up? Right?
Or...maybe they're just to damned tired to blow up Syria from having to blow up the rest of the world?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Hog1

It would be difficult to imagine...Who, if asked in this world feels safer than they did even a couple years ago....
Certainly nobody in the western world. To many things blowing up...
Check that.....hmmmmm, maybe like in Syria? THEY might feel safer? All their top shelf terrorists are probably committed in other parts of the world...blowing them up? Right?
Or...maybe they're just to damned tired to blow up Syria from having to blow up the rest of the world?

Across the world is literally on fire. I would not step foot in South America, central America, Africa, Middle East, most parts of Asia, Russia, Ex Soviet bloc and even some parts of Europe.

Obama, Hillary, Kerry, and the State Department are 100% responsible for most of it.

Everyday be thankful to wake up in the United States.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Hog1

It would be difficult to imagine...Who, if asked in this world feels safer than they did even a couple years ago....
Certainly nobody in the western world. To many things blowing up...
Check that.....hmmmmm, maybe like in Syria? THEY might feel safer? All their top shelf terrorists are probably committed in other parts of the world...blowing them up? Right?
Or...maybe they're just to damned tired to blow up Syria from having to blow up the rest of the world?

Munich shooting: Several killed at shopping mall, report says - CNN.com

You don't have to go to Syria to get blown up, the terrorist these days make house calls. This shit has to end. We've allowed Syria/Iraq to become a staging grounds for terrorist attacks across the world.

[NC_Skins]

Some of a manure droppings spouted the past few pages has me like


I think Matty has already covered the facts about violence (especially murder) has been declining the past 2 decades. The pure numbers show that. Here, take it from the FBI.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-1


The reason why it appears we have a violence problem is because that's what your regular corporate media continues to broadcast. Media and the government have found out a while ago that fear is a powerful aid in getting people to do things against their own interests and to sell shit. What's their aim? They want to continue with the military industry and gun supplying so what better way than to drum up fear about violence, terrorism, and gun control. The record amount of guns sold during Obama's 8 years is staggering. All because media and politicians fear monger people that they'll be losing their guns. Notice the conservative media and how they portray everything. It's always a "war on christianity"...."war on christmas"......"war on guns"....."war on free speech". Constant fear mongering and these idiots bite into it every single time. A lot of it has to do with the lack of education quite frankly and the mere mentality that's been drilled into their heads since birth.

You want to know how to bring some of that violence in inner cities down? Fix income inequality and help those people get out of poverty. As long as poverty continues to be a huge issue in America, the longer violence and murder are a mainstay in these inner cities. It's a direct correlation between poverty and violence. Nobody is saying give these people free money. No. Give these people a real chance to get themselves out with real wages and real benefits. Most of the people in poverty certainly don't want to be there. (regardless of what your shitty ass media pundits/racists/bigots tell you)

[NC_Skins]

One more point of note about the RNC this week. I certainly think that Ted Cruz just committed political suicide in front of the entire nation. By being petty and not endorsing Trump (purely on personal reasons), he told the entire GOP and most likely Trump voters in November to get bent. There was a reason he was booed off the stage and people were wanting to fight him later that night.

Defiant Ted Cruz stands by refusal to endorse Donald Trump after being booed during convention speech - CNNPolitics.com

On the donor suite level, people approached Cruz and insulted him, a source told CNN's Dana Bash. One state party chair reacted so angrily that they had to be restrained.
Cruz, who has long sought the support of GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson, was turned away when he tried to enter Adelson's suite.

Andy Abboud, a senior aide to the Las Vegas casino magnate, said Cruz was initially invited to come up to visit the Adelsons, but when he failed to endorse Trump the invitation was rescinded.

"When he didn't endorse, they were stunned and disappointed," Abboud told CNN.

Cruz is fucked.He'll never get anymore backing after what he did at the RNC this week. He was already a hated man, but he still had some big money backers at the time. That's gone. The main purpose of the RNC is to unite the party, yet Cruz took this time to give them all the finger and show them why he's hated so much in Washington, DC. He may still be voted in as Senator in Texas again, but his political career beyond that is toast. Ashes. Hell, judging by his facebook page, it's very likely he might even be replaced in Texas. There were many of his supporters turning on him for not endorsing Trump. It was a bold move Cotton. We'll see how it plays out.

The thing about this whole squabble between Cruz and Trump started when a super pac supporting Cruz attacked Donald Trump's wife Melania. Cruz had the opportunity to denounce it and to refuse any support from that group. No, he simply denied it and allowed it to fester until Trump hit back with the upper cuts. Cruz has been deplorable this election cycle with the dirty tricks to Ben Carson and Trump. Fuck him.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Some of a manure droppings spouted the past few pages has me like


I think Matty has already covered the facts about violence (especially murder) has been declining the past 2 decades. The pure numbers show that. Here, take it from the FBI.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-1


The reason why it appears we have a violence problem is because that's what your regular corporate media continues to broadcast. Media and the government have found out a while ago that fear is a powerful aid in getting people to do things against their own interests and to sell shit. What's their aim? They want to continue with the military industry and gun supplying so what better way than to drum up fear about violence, terrorism, and gun control. The record amount of guns sold during Obama's 8 years is staggering. All because media and politicians fear monger people that they'll be losing their guns. Notice the conservative media and how they portray everything. It's always a "war on christianity"...."war on christmas"......"war on guns"....."war on free speech". Constant fear mongering and these idiots bite into it every single time. A lot of it has to do with the lack of education quite frankly and the mere mentality that's been drilled into their heads since birth.

You want to know how to bring some of that violence in inner cities down? Fix income inequality and help those people get out of poverty. As long as poverty continues to be a huge issue in America, the longer violence and murder are a mainstay in these inner cities. It's a direct correlation between poverty and violence. Nobody is saying give these people free money. No. Give these people a real chance to get themselves out with real wages and real benefits. Most of the people in poverty certainly don't want to be there. (regardless of what your shitty ass media pundits/racists/bigots tell you)

You forgot War on Police which is certainly a thing now.

What is bolded is the key to your issues in the second paragraph. Look at the cost to educate the kid in those DEMOCRATE run cities with all the violence I listed above.

There is American tax money being spent by poverty pimps in these areas who aren't doing their job...little accountability. Teacher unions, city administrators, local clergy, social welfare programs, community service boards, after school programs, Urban Housing programs...the list goes on and on. These communities that squander my tax money. I say no more. Im tired of ineffective policies. The federal, state, and local government pump money into these areas with little return. Im tired of the complaining, its never enough. There needs to be some accountability.

All look at the most poverty ridden areas in the country...Its not a fact violence is in all impoverished communities.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You forgot War on Police which is certainly a thing now.

What is bolded is the key to your issues in the second paragraph. Look at the cost to educate the kid in those DEMOCRATE run cities with all the violence I listed above.

There is American tax money being spent by poverty pimps in these areas who aren't doing their job...little accountability. Teacher unions, city administrators, local clergy, social welfare programs, community service boards, after school programs, Urban Housing programs...the list goes on and on. These communities that squander my tax money. I say no more. Im tired of ineffective policies. The federal, state, and local government pump money into these areas with little return. Im tired of the complaining, its never enough. There needs to be some accountability.

All look at the most poverty ridden areas in the country...Its not a fact violence is in all impoverished communities.

Wait now...let's not be to hasty
We're like 19 in the world on education, right? So we dropped a few spots....??? # 20 WISHES they were us!!!!
BTW...we'll need some more edu-cash to hold that 19 spot...comrade

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

You forgot War on Police which is certainly a thing now.

There is no war on police. People wanting cops held accountable isn't a war on the police. It's called justice. Continuing to ignore the blatant issues and crimes will lead into more issues.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-tex...81.html?ref=gs

Guys like this should be in jail and not serving as a cop. Most likely nothing will happen to this guy. The fact he's still employed tells you as much.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

What is bolded is the key to your issues in the second paragraph. Look at the cost to educate the kid in those DEMOCRATE run cities with all the violence I listed above.

The cost to educate a kid in the ghetto doesn't cost any more to educate a kid in the suburbs. In fact, many of the poverty stricken schools don't get the funding they desperately need. Also, it's hard to keep/recruit teachers that want to teach in those areas as well.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

There is American tax money being spent by poverty pimps in these areas who aren't doing their job...little accountability. Teacher unions, city administrators, local clergy, social welfare programs, community service boards, after school programs, Urban Housing programs...the list goes on and on. These communities that squander my tax money. I say no more. Im tired of ineffective policies. The federal, state, and local government pump money into these areas with little return. Im tired of the complaining, its never enough. There needs to be some accountability.

Well, if you are bitching about the educational system still, you are preaching to the choir about how ineffective it is. You can thank GWB for the "no child left behind" gem which tied school funding to these asinine tests. What in the hell do you think was going to happen? Not only did GWB fuck up the middle east and our debt, but he wrecked our educational system as well.

Also, I swear to god Chico, if you mention common core, I'm going to slap the stupid out of you. Common core isn't a federal mandated thing, it was devised by the states and instituted by the states. This is also another stupid ass educational failure. If you already knew this, then you are ahead of most people.

Until the issue of poverty is addressed, the violence will continue. I don't think there is a single simple solution out there, and quite frankly, a lot of help and support is going to have to come from those very communities as well. It's going to continue being a vicious cycle until it gets worked out. The main problem is, nobody gives a flying fuck about poor black people. Many policies (see drug war) are aimed at keeping them exactly where they are. Putting loads of hurdles in a man's path means he has more obstacles to stumble over. Couple that with media portraying these people being the main reason for the downfall of America. They act as if they're some sort of drag on the finances, when much of welfare doesn't even hit 10% of our budget.

You want to start seeing who the drain on the country is, start adding up all the taxes the .001% are evading with tax loop holes and off-shore accounts. Add up all the corporate welfare handed out to oil companies and other industries. Add up all the taxes that huge corporations are avoiding paying by using loopholes and off shore accounts. I guarantee you, it'll dwarf that welfare number on the budget graph. So let's take some of that money, pump it back into our economy and better paying jobs and help get people out of poverty.

Originally Posted by Chico23231

All look at the most poverty ridden areas in the country...Its not a fact violence is in all impoverished communities.

First off, I NEVER said that violence is in ALL impoverished communities. I said that violence and poverty are directly related in the grand scheme of things. I dare you to point me out one middle or upper class neighbor full of violent crime. Now find out every single violent crime-ridden area and tell me what the poverty level is. If it isn't poor, I'll send you a 6 pack of your choice.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Munich shooting: Several killed at shopping mall, report says - CNN.com

You don't have to go to Syria to get blown up, the terrorist these days make house calls. This shit has to end. We've allowed Syria/Iraq to become a staging grounds for terrorist attacks across the world.

Well if only Germany had tougher gun laws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_le...ion_in_Germany

It does seem like I have personal anecdotes a lot of times, but I was an MP in Germany in the early 90's, and trust me you didn't want to have the Polizei finding weapons around you. We, the US Army Military Police, were not allowed to keep our weapon's loaded even on patrol.

But, we are safer now.