Gruden fires defensive coordinator Joe Barry

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Bucket

I would be encouraged about Manusky and I might be the only one. He has experience, he did great with Scot when he was on the 49ers.

He also had the best group of our defense. The Linebackers all improved and he got the best out of mediocre unit between Foster and Will Compton.

We really need an experienced defensive coordinator coming in. I think bringing in another guy doing his first or second round as a DC is a bit risky.

Bucket I don't want to rain on your parade but he was outside linebackers coach only, Kirk Olivadotti is the inside 'backers coach.

2nd point:

Greg Manusky Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com

His defensive stats are unimpressive. You guys might remember those San Fran defenses as great, but the rankings don't lie. Yeah I know rankings don't tell the whole story, but other than two years where his San Fran defenses were top 10 in points everything else is average to mediocre. And he's never been top 10 in yards. Other than 1 year he's been average to mediocre in takeaways.

We have an opportunity to bring in coaches who not only have the stats to back it up, they also can elevate the players through their teaching and keeping the scheme simple enough that players don't have to think. Why settle for less?

I don't need to hear about energy and passion, we rode that train with Joe Barry. I'm beginning to suspect that was the whole reason he was hired, he was young, and full of energy. He certainly didn't have the resume for the job.

[Bangee7]

Originally Posted by mooby

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2nd point:

Greg Manusky Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com

His defensive stats are unimpressive. You guys might remember those San Fran defenses as great, but the rankings don't lie. ...

Mooby- thanks for posting those stats- they do not look very impressive.

I'd be happy with Pettine, because defenses get better quickly under him. That's a sign of better coaching of similar talent to me.

Somebody mentioned that maybe we're waiting for a coach on a playoff team- that could make sense. The 'skins seem to be dragging their feet & maybe that's the reason.

I think we've poached everyone from Tampa by now, so maybe we're waiting on the "ball boy" in Seattle- my sources tell me that he has a lot of energy.

[rocnrik]

Manusky will be a fine D coordinator!! all these big names out there but i will tell you that New england would hire from within.. I hope they do go with manusky.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Manusky will be a fine D coordinator!! all these big names out there but i will tell you that New england would hire from within.. I hope they do go with manusky.

When New England hires from within it is a completely different thing than when we do it. Lol. They are not hiring from within the 28th ranked defense.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

When New England hires from within it is a completely different thing than when we do it. Lol. They are not hiring from within the 28th ranked defense.

I was always told you do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Just because we had the 28th ranked defense does not mean all of the coaches were bad.

[SCRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by OmahaRedskins

I was always told you do not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Just because we had the 28th ranked defense does not mean all of the coaches were bad.

And nowhere in our critiques do I see mention of our 28th ranked defensive talent pool. Does anyone really believe we're better than that? Look, I'm no Joe Barry fan, but we all knew what a lousy hand he was dealt when the draft and free agency periods were over. There was no louder hue and cry than our complaints about not dipping even a toe into the "deep" defensive line talent pool.

Don't even mention the mad Greek. Proves my point...