The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

yup, we all knew our FO would fuck this up beyond belief.

What else did u want them to do bro? I hate DS AND BA you know I do but they were trapped in a corner

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

yup, we all knew our FO would fuck this up beyond belief.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Kirk was awful on 3rd downs the last 2 years, as we were as a team, this is the big upside. AS is great on 3rd and 4 or 5 because he can move so well.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Well said. Maybe Alex Smith will be our version of Tom Brady and still is playing very well by the time he hits 40. We can use the picks in that span to improve the team at our various needs...

[CRedskinsRule]

What do you know this may well have been the FINAL Cousins thread!

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

What do you know this may well have been the FINAL Cousins thread!

Nope. At some point, we'll have a bad game and a disgruntled Redskins fan will post a "What Could've Been" thread about Cousins that gets shut down very quickly, lol!

[skinsfaninok]

Thanks Kirk for the 3 years but we didn't win jack in those 3. So until this team actually builds a roster right it doesn't matter much anyway

[BaltimoreSkins]

We won the division twice while Kirk was here. What dio you mean we didn't win jack?
Once as a back up yes, but you have to go back to the 90s to find another QB that was part of that.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

We won the division twice while Kirk was here. What dio you mean we didn't win jack?
Once as a back up yes, but you have to go back to the 90s to find another QB that was part of that.

LOL we won 1 time with him as a starter that is all that matters, the 2012 year was a great gimmick yr. And how many playoff wins do we have?? That is all that matters

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

We won the division twice while Kirk was here. What dio you mean we didn't win jack?
Once as a back up yes, but you have to go back to the 90s to find another QB that was part of that.

Whhaa? We've won the division exactly one time while Kirk Cousins was starter. With your logic, we can also say we have won the division with Colt McCoy as well.

Since the 'skins started throwing guaranteed money at Cousins, the Redskins have been 8-7-1, and 7-9. His best season, 9-7. Is that what you're celebrating?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Fair enough if that is your opinion but I was happy to start being relevant in the division again. Gotta have a ticket if you want to go to the show.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Fair enough if that is your opinion but I was happy to start being relevant in the division again. Gotta have a ticket if you want to go to the show.

no doubt bro and I hope we can get there

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Fair enough if that is your opinion but I was happy to start being relevant in the division again. Gotta have a ticket if you want to go to the show.

KC was 1 and 6 against Dallas
3-5 against the Giants
And 4-3 against the Eagles

I know they are team games and the D did their share in the losses, but several games can be pinned directly to KC.

If Alex Smith just doesn't make KCs bonehead interceptions or end of game brain farts we win several more.

I think we will be relevant going forward especially with the qb spot settled.