The FINAL Kirk Cousins Saga thread. 5.0

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by MTK

I’m glad this saga is finally over.

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

Agree, sucks but we all knew it was coming

[Buffalo Bob]

I just read an article on ESPN that said two years ago the Redskins offered Cousins a deal that averaged $12.5 million a year. I wish Cousins would tell the true story of what really was offered and his thoughts during his tenure in Washington. I would love to read his diary. I am pretty sure Snyder giving RG3 the keys to the city started things poorly right off the bat. Probably a nice long term contract offer would have made amends, but they insulted him again.
While I don't think he is as good as his stat line suggests he still is better than 2/3's of the starting QBs in the NFL.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Agree, sucks but we all knew it was coming

yup, we all knew our FO would fuck this up beyond belief.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

yup, we all knew our FO would fuck this up beyond belief.

What else did u want them to do bro? I hate DS AND BA you know I do but they were trapped in a corner

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

What else did u want them to do bro? I hate DS AND BA you know I do but they were trapped in a corner

Yes they trapped themselves in a corner, this is why its a clown show.

I rather have sent a 2nd round pick and just kept Fuller. And the 5 year deal...like I said before, we need to see the contract, but it better have an out clause after the 3rd year.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yes they trapped themselves in a corner, this is why its a clown show.

I rather have sent a 2nd round pick and just kept Fuller. And the 5 year deal...like I said before, we need to see the contract, but it better have an out clause after the 3rd year.

Smith will be fine man, have faith in the guy. Dude has a chip on his shoulder too and that will fire him up. Kirk will go on to the JETS and suck there I bet u

[metalskins]

The only thing I hate about the deal is getting rid of Kendall Fuller. Otherwise, it's a great deal and Alex Smith is the perfect QB for Gruden's system. Let's see what the details of the contract will be before we totally go off the rails. I'm happy the QB position is finally resolved. We have a good quarterback in place. Let's focus on building the running game, getting some better receivers, a linebacker, and another corner, lol!

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

yup, we all knew our FO would fuck this up beyond belief.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I will miss him, he was such a great guy. But now envisioning a future beyond 2018, it’s exciting.

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Schneed, do you think there is truly long term value in Alex Smith, does he have upside? Should we be more excited about him than what KC brought us?

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Kirk was awful on 3rd downs the last 2 years, as we were as a team, this is the big upside. AS is great on 3rd and 4 or 5 because he can move so well.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I do, personally. The window for it is only 3 years long, realistically. But I see this:

- Same accuracy, quick release, and ability to read defenses

- Smith is more mobile, throws on the run better. Cousins was improving at this, but Smith almost always leads the NFL in first downs gained via rush from the QB position. He's known for killing you on 3rd and 4, when you defend the play perfectly, but Smith gets away from the rush and scrambles for the 1st.

- Smith has a much, much better turnover rate.

- Smith has a better red zone conversion rate. This may just be a reflection of the offenses they played in. And you have to give Cousins a break for any game where Reed didn't play, because Travis Kelce was healthy most of the time. But still, I think Smith punches it in a tad more often because he can escape the pocket better.

I think we got a touch better at QB. It's just a shame we got worse in the secondary by losing Fuller. Valuable player.

Well said. Maybe Alex Smith will be our version of Tom Brady and still is playing very well by the time he hits 40. We can use the picks in that span to improve the team at our various needs...

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Well said. Maybe Alex Smith will be our version of Tom Brady and still is playing very well by the time he hits 40. We can use the picks in that span to improve the team at our various needs...

I'm seeing all these stats and descriptions of how great Smith is. Yet he didn't look that good when I've seen him, and the Chiefs and their fans are perfectly fine trading him. What gives?

If he was that great, the Chiefs would have kept him.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I'm seeing all these stats and descriptions of how great Smith is. Yet he didn't look that good when I've seen him, and the Chiefs and their fans are perfectly fine trading him. What gives?

If he was that great, the Chiefs would have kept him.

Chiefs have a good young QB waiting in the wings. The Chiefs knew they could get a good deal on Smith .The Redskins knew KC didn't want to stay and sure is not worth 34 million a season so this seems like a good deal for all involved.