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Old 01-12-2019, 04:43 PM   #1
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https://thefandc.radio.com/articles/...o-hide-weasels

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"I went to RFK when the place used to shake," Shariff said. "They have sucked the entire life out of you. It angers me."

But worse than fan anger, is a mass wave of fan apathy.

"Jerry Jones told us this one time, 'I don't care what you say about me, just make sure you're talking about me, make sure you're talking about the Dallas Cowboys. I don't want apathy to set in,'" Shariff said.

When fans stop getting upset or angry, that is the sign they are done supporting the team, Shariff said.


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Old 01-12-2019, 08:50 PM   #2
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I wonder what George Allen would think of all of this shit.
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Old 01-12-2019, 09:29 PM   #3
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Lots of reports that no one wants to come here, and that’s why the Redskins won’t or can’t find a top flight DC to take Manusky’s job.

Snyder and Allen have burnt too many bridges


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Lots of reports that no one wants to come here, and that’s why the Redskins won’t or can’t find a top flight DC to take Manusky’s job.

Snyder and Allen have burnt too many bridges


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1/2 Sport's Illustrated's Robert Klemko on the #redskins: "I mean, this is an organization that had (Matt) LaFleur, (Kyle) Shanahan and (Sean) McVay in the same building,..."And the only person that's still there from that year is Bruce Allen. So...


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5superbowl - I understand you are angry with Redskins, we all are upset with the organization for many reasons. Although, there is no point in rehashing negative facts, statements, or opinions (or lack of) about Redskins. What you have been doing is like rubbing salt on our wounds on regular basis.
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5superbowl - I understand you are angry with Redskins, we all are upset with the organization for many reasons. Although, there is no point in rehashing negative facts, statements, or opinions (or lack of) about Redskins. What you have been doing is like rubbing salt on our wounds on regular basis.


I’m only reporting or resharing on what I’m seeing in the press, quotes from respected Redskin reporters, and general consensus of Twitter posts from other Redskins fans.

Try telling the press, massive media outcry, Redskins talkshows, and fan base there’s no point in continuing this, and see if you stop anyone. People are angry and are going to continue protesting until we see change. Rightfully so


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I’m only reporting or resharing on what I’m seeing in the press, quotes from respected Redskin reporters, and general consensus of Twitter posts from other Redskins fans.

Try telling the press, massive media outcry, Redskins talkshows, and fan base there’s no point in continuing this, and see if you stop anyone. People are angry and are going to continue protesting until we see change. Rightfully so


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Very Well Said!

I personally have been a Redskins fan since 1981 when I was able 5 years old.

My passion for the Redskins was so strong that it has taken 20 years of Dan Snyder's ownership to almost completly erode my passion for the Redskins.

I have finally gotten to the point where I no longer care whether or not I miss the games or news about the team. And with the exception of the 'Star Players' such as AP, Alex Smith, Ryan Kargan, I couldn't name most of the players on the team.

It truly seems like Dan Snyder doesn't give a damm Sh! + what the fan think he is going to do what he wants to do, and he expects the fans to continue to buy the Redskins gear and attend the games.

The only way I see for things to change is for the fans to protest by not coming to the games and not buying any Redskins stuff.

Hitting Dan Snyder in the wallet is the only way to get through to him.

Talking to a friend of mine the other day, he said that if things keep going the way that they have been going, Washington might not have a team in a few years. My response was that the other NFL owners would force Dan Snyder to sell the team before that.

So if the Redskins fans protest with their Wallets, by refusing to spend money on the team Dan Snyder might be Forced to sell the team.

Removing Dan Snyder is the ONLY Way that I see things changing!

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Very Well Said!

I personally have been a Redskins fan since 1981 when I was able 5 years old.

My passion for the Redskins was so strong that it has taken 20 years of Dan Snyder's ownership to almost completly erode my passion for the Redskins.

I have finally gotten to the point where I no longer care whether or not I miss the games or news about the team. And with the exception of the 'Star Players' such as AP, Alex Smith, Ryan Kargan, I couldn't name most of the players on the team.

It truly seems like Dan Snyder doesn't give a damm Sh! + what the fan think he is going to do what he wants to do, and he expects the fans to continue to buy the Redskins gear and attend the games.

The only way I see for things to change is for the fans to protest by not coming to the games and not buying any Redskins stuff.

Hitting Dan Snyder in the wallet is the only way to get through to him.

Talking to a friend of mine the other day, he said that if things keep going the way that they have been going, Washington might not have a team in a few years. My response was that the other NFL owners would force Dan Snyder to sell the team before that.

So if the Redskins fans protest with their Wallets, by refusing to spend money on the team Dan Snyder might be Forced to sell the team.

Removing Dan Snyder is the ONLY Way that I see things changing!

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Amen! Agree completely!


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I’m only reporting or resharing on what I’m seeing in the press, quotes from respected Redskin reporters, and general consensus of Twitter posts from other Redskins fans.

Try telling the press, massive media outcry, Redskins talkshows, and fan base there’s no point in continuing this, and see if you stop anyone. People are angry and are going to continue protesting until we see change. Rightfully so


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They simply are doing their job, coming up with talking materials that keep people coming back to see what they are talking about. They are talking about the same things for the last few weeks, except they are trying to talk about it from every aspect. Have you noticed how "mysterious" sources keep coming up without providing solid evidence? If we stop paying attention, they will stop talking about it.
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https://twitter.com/BurgundyBlog/sta...992402944?s=20

This tweet was largely over looked by the Redskins media.

This is potentially a big deal and could be indicative of a bigger management problem. (It could just be blame shifting)

It adds credence to the gossip Gruden and Callahan was an arrangement forced by the FO.

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I'm pretty sure that there is nothing that can be done to change the way Dan Snyder thinks and acts as owner of the Redskins. We have put ourselves in position to be abused by Snyder and his minions simply by thinking of ourselves as fans rather than as customers of the Redskins.

I'm not even sure what a fan is or why we act the way we do as fans and allow ourselves to accept such poor quality goods and services from the Redskins that we would not accept from the other businesses we patronize. From now on, I'm a customer first and a fan second and I demand good products and services on and off the field from my NFL team. I also demand to be treated with respect and courtesy by everyone in that team's organization.

Realistically, I know I'm not going to get what I demand from Dan Snyder's Redskins. The whole truth is that I've already had enough with Snyder. I don't like the way he treats me and his other customers. So, as soon as I can get over being a lifelong Redskins fan, I'm going to to hold my nose and give the Ravens a try. My self respect as a consumer of the NFL football experience demands a better service provider. I just want to enjoy being a fan of decent NFL team and organization.
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I'm pretty sure that there is nothing that can be done to change the way Dan Snyder thinks and acts as owner of the Redskins. We have put ourselves in position to be abused by Snyder and his minions simply by thinking of ourselves as fans rather than as customers of the Redskins.



I'm not even sure what a fan is or why we act the way we do as fans and allow ourselves to accept such poor quality goods and services from the Redskins that we would not accept from the other businesses we patronize. From now on, I'm a customer first and a fan second and I demand good products and services on and off the field from my NFL team. I also demand to be treated with respect and courtesy by everyone in that team's organization.



Realistically, I know I'm not going to get what I demand from Dan Snyder's Redskins. The whole truth is that I've already had enough with Snyder. I don't like the way he treats me and his other customers. So, as soon as I can get over being a lifelong Redskins fan, I'm going to to hold my nose and give the Ravens a try. My self respect as a consumer of the NFL football experience demands a better service provider. I just want to enjoy being a fan of decent NFL team and organization.
Totally Agree with everything you said!

For me, however, while I'd like to root for the Baltimore Ravens, since my wife's family and three of my friends are Steelers Fans, rooting for the Ravens most likely won't be possible. So most likely I will probably adopt the Pittsburgh Steelers.

For now, I am simply a Football Fan. Next season I simply will 'pull for' teams that I like (Steelers, Bears, Saints, Packers, Panthers, etc) and I will still 'pull for' the Redskins, but without any real Fan Passion.

I will always be keep my label of Redskins Fan, but I won't go out of my way to follow the team, and I won't spend any money on the Redskins, until Dan Snyder changes (unlikely) or sells the team.

I kind of equate my feelings about the Redskins to a wayward family member. You will always love them, but because they have become so self destructive, you finally decided to give up on them until they decide to make a drastic change in their lives and stop their self destructive behavior.

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Totally Agree with everything you said!

For me, however, while I'd like to root for the Baltimore Ravens, since my wife's family and three of my friends are Steelers Fans, rooting for the Ravens most likely won't be possible. So most likely I will probably adopt the Pittsburgh Steelers.

For now, I am simply a Football Fan. Next season I simply will 'pull for' teams that I like (Steelers, Bears, Saints, Packers, Panthers, etc) and I will still 'pull for' the Redskins, but without any real Fan Passion.

I will always be keep my label of Redskins Fan, but I won't go out of my way to follow the team, and I won't spend any money on the Redskins, until Dan Snyder changes (unlikely) or sells the team.

I kind of equate my feelings about the Redskins to a wayward family member. You will always love them, but because they have become so self destructive, you finally decided to give up on them until they decide to make a drastic change in their lives and stop their self destructive behavior.

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I started following football the year Dan Snyder purchased the team. I missed Gibbs, and the days of when this was a proud franchise. Losing is all I know.

Im born and raised in an area right in the middle of Eagles and Giants territory, and it’s a long story on why I chose to follow the Skins, but I’ve always had to deal with being surrounded by Eagles and Giants fans and everything that brings. I’ve watched them have success under Reid and Peterson some from nonstop winning seasons, to countless NFC East titles, to NFC crowns, two Super Bowl appearances and a title. I’ve watched the same with the Giants winning TWO titles, and various playoff runs.

It’s been extremely hard, but I never gave up. I always showed up, and supported my team until I was Blue in the face. I’ve spent countless dollars and hours on a franchise I love so much. I’ve been the brunt of jokes and teasing at the Redskins expense.

I’ve reached the point of being enraged, and close to giving up. Apathy will set in soon, and I’m starting to show those signs. Meanwhile, most of my friends are hosting Eagles playoff game parties, again, another season. While our team is sitting at home, again, another season.

This organization has been a last place, losing, pathetic, bottom feeding, embarrassment for 20+ years now. I wish I was around when Gibbs and George Allen coached.

And you people wonder why I post the way I do......



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